Arrachogaidh Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Locomotive Railway Carriage & Wagon ReviewVolume 36 (1930)No. 450 (February)Locomotive for Gleneagles Hotel, L.M.S.R. 63. illus.0-4-0ST No. 16048 (Peckett WN 977/1904. Trying to get a copy of this article if anyone can help. Researching the use of this tank engine. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I'm afraid I can't help, but you already know that from NGF Can anyone identify the Peckett class from the works number/build date? Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I'm afraid I can't help, but you already know that from NGF Can anyone identify the Peckett class from the works number/build date? Paul A. According to Peckett's records 977 was a Class W4 0-4-0ST ex works on 30th May 1904 to Ayr HarbourTrustees, Ayr. Later sold to Glasgow & South Western Railway Co. - No.221; In July 1919 in use at Gleneagles Hotel Later LMS 16043 (error maybe ?) The later information after 1904 would be from spares order records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 OK - why did Gleneagles Hotel require a Peckett W4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66C Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 OK - why did Gleneagles Hotel require a Peckett W4? Presumably to work its branch line - have a look at: http://maps.nls.uk/os/25k-gb-1937-61/view/?jp2=91626460 Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Well I'll be whatevered!! Many thanks for posting the map! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrachogaidh Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yes, there was a typo in the reference. 16043 was the LMS number for the loco. Initially I thought the article was suggesting the loco was new in 1930 however that was the year of withdrawal. I did find a photograph of it in BackTrack Special Issue No.1 featuring an article about the hotel and station. I wonder if the hotel thereafter had a dedicated loco for the movement of wagons to and from the hotel to the station yard. I have seen a Caley Jumbo moving wagons at the station yard in a video but it was a Stirling shed loco which apparently operated a pick-up goods service along the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 If you need more information on peckett's in general then this website has some useful information. http://www.martynbane.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrachogaidh Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Remember the hotel was built by the CR. The hotel was commenced and substantially built by the CR starting in 1913 with a halt to works during World War 1. However it was opened in LMS days on 5th June 1924. CR becoming part of LMS on 1st July 1923. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hi, The Peckett which worked at Gleneagles was wks no 977 built 1904. Bought by the Ayr Harbour Commisioners to cut shunting expenses which had been undertaken by the G&SWR. In 1919 the G&SWR took over the harbour, and the pug, which was repainted and numbered into Sou' West stock as No 735. At grouping it moved about a bit within the Sou' West area including a short period at Kilmarnock works as works shunter. In 1929 it was sent to Perth where it was photographed in the yard. It was used on the hotel branch for a while but was scrapped in 1930. If you fancy a model the Agenoria kit is ideal. Here is my version of it in Sou' West livery. Not many G&SWR engines had a brass dome and copper cap to the chimney! Happy Modeling, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrachogaidh Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Many thanks Ian. I wonder what was used after the Peckett was scrapped. Just noticed that Agenoria are 7mm kits. I model in 2mm/N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Many thanks Ian. I wonder what was used after the Peckett was scrapped. Just noticed that Agenoria are 7mm kits. I model in 2mm/N Its small in 7mm scale so would be a bit of a challenge in 2! Regards, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Lovely picture, Ian. Can you show us any more, please? I've just bought the Agenoria kit of this type of Peckett so I'm particularly interested in them at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Lovely picture, Ian. Can you show us any more, please? I've just bought the Agenoria kit of this type of Peckett so I'm particularly interested in them at the moment. Hi Ruston, Here are a couple more pug Pictures. Both of these locos were built from the Agenoria Kits. Both went together very well, even though I made alterations to suit S7 standards and built the frames to prototype widths. I have found that Pete Stampers artwork is excellent and all those that I have built have gone together easily and have been accurate replicas of the prototype. I have replaced some of the castings with scratch built bits and on the WPR loco I made new rods but that was my choice, those supplied were perfectly adequate but I wanted to try steel and add the brasses and cotter pins. Still needs to be weathered and to have the sandpipes added! Happy modelling, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 This is the loco that Hornby have just announced they are working on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Not many G&SWR engines had a brass dome and copper cap to the chimney! 735 (Ayr Harbour Peckett) resized.jpg Minerva are about to release an 0 gauge Peckett, not sure if it is exactly the same. http://www.minervamodelrailways.co.uk/our-models/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think that's a more modern version than the GSW's, the dome is further back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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