the penguin of doom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Hi all. Those of you who may have been following my workbench thread..... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/28223-the-penguins-workbench-trans-pennine-transformation-part-2/ Will know I've been off work having had a minor operation recently on my knee. As part of my recovery process, my employer has sanctioned a fortnight at the company recovery and treatment centre which will commence mid May. Having pondered what I'm going to do in my spare time, consideration was given to taking a couple of projects away with me but, a full Trans - Pennine set will be just a bit too much to carry along and so I needed something else..... At my local club, we are building an O gauge layout, (the class 27 is currently sidelined but WILL return), and a few months ago, I got a good deal on a couple of Tri-ang Big Train MK2's. I have been steadily amassing bits and pieces in order to get this conversion/detail project underway and so I think this may be the ideal project to complete in two weeks..... So, the challenge to myself is to start on the Monday with the "untouched" model - more of this below and finish on the second Friday with a body in primer ready for top coats. I must stress, I have not made any inroads into the interior or the chassis, so anything extra done on this side will be a bonus. I have also got an Easybuild MK1 and will also take this along just in case I suprise myself and proper crack on with the MK2. So, firstly, and I know this contradicts the above, I popped both bodies into brake fluid to strip off the paint..... I didn't think it would go down too well having this set up with me on the commencement of my treatment so surely can be forgiven for "starting early" and although I've had to cut off the ends of each coach to get them to fit in the tray, they will need further reduction to get one correct length coach. So, that's all for now, please feel free to join me for a forntnight of intense modelling commencing proper in a weeks time and we'll see how I get on. Cheers for now. Sean. Edited December 8, 2013 by the penguin of doom 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted May 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2013 Are you sure you won't be distracted by pain and physiotherapy, then more pain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted May 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2013 all the best sean, just out of interest whats wrong with the knee? i've just been informed by my doc that i may have artheritis in my right knee and i've just gone 34!!!!! do them mk2's need stretching to scale length? after seeing all the projects on your thread i assume it's something like that ps all the best with the recovery 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 13, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2013 I have a dodgy knee, from a bike accident 30 years ago, went flying over a bonnet, my left knee took most of the force, not sure what is wrong, but having an auto car helps a lot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Welcome to the sunny if a bit windy north of yorkshire sean! hope the recovery is going well, just watch out for the horizontal hail that i got attacked with this morning dropping young un off at school! Will be watching this one with intetest as it may mean ill dig my big big stuff out to see the light of day one day. Keep up the good work james 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ahh yes the post office shop, never actually been even though its now on my way to work down in pannal, for some reason i just thought it was remote control cars?! Think i may pop in and check it out now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Ahh good old starbeck models, great little shop to bob in to when you have a spare min to chat with the man, i think hes called brian? The swannon the stray next door is a pretty decent pub as well if your passing. At this rate youll be a real Harrogatonian before you know it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hi Chaps. To address the knee question, I've had an arthoscopy to tidy up some pulled cartliage however, while they were in there, they discovered some other issues with calcium build up so have removed all that too. Ironically Rik, the specialist mentioned that I too have the beginnings of arthritis, and I'm 41 next week! If it's any consolation, I'm told all doctors say folk get it at about our age. Whether you choose to accept that or have it as a consolation is a choice for the individual. Sorry to hear about your knee problems Martin, it sounds like the left one took all the impact which would not have been at all nice. I hope it doesn't affect things too much for you and you're with the consolation that we use our hands in the main to create our models so we should be thankful of that I guess. RIGHT! While I'm on, I've landed here in sunny North Yorkshire and the MK2 book is out prior to my first physio appointment. This afternoons job will be to mark out the correct window layout onto sheets of plasticard as, you are correct Rik, two Tri - Ang MK2's will eventually form one. I intend to replace what used to be the Grey areas of the coaches with thinner sides using the handy mould line as a cutting guide and getting flush windows into the bargain. I'll post on progress later on. Cheers. Sean. It just comes and goes, never been immobile but sometimes it hurts, but if OK I can walk miles, but going auto was one of the best decisions I had made. Traffic jams and clutches were a nightmare. Now air con and auto - so easy and relaxing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric & Gripper Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Quality work so Mr P Best regards Eric& Gripper. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted May 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2013 all in i'd say that's a pretty successful bout of modelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 That looks like a good bit of work Sean, but is your knee better?! All the best, Colin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep101 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hiya Sean, The Mk11 looks really good, I've got some squirrelled away up the loft, I think this is one of the best conversions of the Triang/big big mk11s ve seen on here! Keep it up. Regards davep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hi Sean, Just 'strayed' into the Modifying & Detailing sub-forum and seen your latest pictures of progress on the MkII body. What a Big, Big transformation! I like the weld lines represented by plastic rod and the work you have done around the door areas looks very realistic. Interesting what you have said about the relative positions of door hinges. The only thing that matters is that the hinge pin are vertically in line for the door to (theoretically) open. It could well be that the MkIIs' bodies tapered in above the tumblehome like steel bodied Pullmans rather than an even curve as per BR Mk I stock. That would account for the position of the top hinge pin. I had a discussion re. vertical strips by doors on BR coaching stock with the man from MJT and the person who runs the blood and custard website recently. We agreed to disagree on the question of whether the doors were flush with strips or if the doors were flush with the sides in such situations. I think your model looks just right. All the best, Colin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) A fine job Sean... Just a couple of wee points (of which one wouldn't make any difference if the vehicles in the middle of a set) but the Gangway doors need to be bi-folding for a mk2a - the flat faced Mk1 type door ended with the original build Mk2's Also, the weld on the body end that you've got showing running down the full height needs to stop on the roof at the last flat panel and from there just scribe a line round the dome to a point above the top of the end handrails - about level with the top of bodylight frames, and from there scribe a horizontal line in towards the gangway end (I don't know if that's a great description that was my second go at it). There was a weld on the end, but we ground it flush and filled it over - hence it's not seen on the prototype as for the domed roof, it was just butted over the top of the body panels with no obvious weld line.... Edited June 1, 2013 by Bob-65b 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 No loss of friendship Sean! It wasn't intended to appear as a criticism - you've made a fine job from an otherwise poor base model... "normally" the joint wouldn't be seen - and on some pictures of new vehicles it's difficult to even spot the overlapping roof dome join - but it's there! I'd be interested to see any photo's you have with the vertical join showing - I do wonder if it was later repairs - it's not something a remember (within the bounds of fallibility of course)! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Thanks Sean - what you're seeing is just the join between the corner pressing and the rear panel. Still flush but the transition is more noticeable on some vehicles.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Sean I've been following this project from the start. It's great to see your attention to detail in another gauge I think the join lines will become less prominent once painted. Duncan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 This is coming together very well. I've seen some conversions before but with slightly less detail than you're putting in. Very nice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2013 I had a good picture of a B4 somewhere, I used to use it to wind up people using text speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hi Sean, I've just seen this thread. If it looks like a mark 2 it is a mark 2!!! I'm off tomorrow so I'll print out the Trojan seat material again for the easybuild mark 1's as I've found some spare ones. Regards Vin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hi Sean, The blue green material is what I meant. I'm going to print some for a couple of mark1s. I can usually get three coaches per sheet. So you can have the spare third. As I'm printing them it's no problem. Regards Vin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted June 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'll bet none of your none railway chums would have understood it...... Text speak, now that's a whole new discussion in itself! Cheers. Sean. And I use a species from David Brins Uplift Saga to deal with Ur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hi Sean, That coach looks quite a beast when placed next to its 4mm counterparts. Re. scratch-building the under-frame gear and its 'mammoth-ness' of task: plastic rod can be turned on a lathe using a tool with no top-rake (as for cutting brass) if you are careful. It could make the process of producing cylinders and other round stuff easier. Hope that helps. Colin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hi Sean, You'll have far more pleasure out of this coach than merely assembling a kit! An electric screw driver would probably substitute for a lathe if turning plastic rod, but by the looks of it, you are doing all right without my advice. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hi Sean, Those seats are just about right, just need a wing attached to the top. I've done the transfers and I'll take a photo of the sheet when I get a chance, probably be Saturday. I've also made a test piece as well. The underframe is looking good as well, keep up the momentum!!! Vin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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