Bob Reid

Incorrect, these are from Passenger Train Marshalling Books - though it listed some of the MU codes these books did not include marshalling or workings for any of the MU stock but were purely for Loco-Hauled Stock. It's worth noting that the ScR continued to call them PTM Book as did the LMR whilst others like the ER copied what they'd done from LNER days and called them CWN's all were effectively the same thing giving the workings of the Loco-Hauled Stock. Interestingly the WR (I blame it on Stationmaster :) ) also included MU workings but for neither stock type gave the old Telegraphic codes.

Spot on Keefer - has to be Diag 30 E1102, the only one to be Air Braked / Electric Heated for use in these sets.

And what an excellent Job Brian made of them. edit - I should add there's quite an amount of modification to the original propane gas equipped RU to accommodate the Anthracite/Electric Equipment and to the roof ventilators etc.

Oh dear Andy how inappropriate in a thread about tugs 😂

Perhaps, but does the note imply that the fitting of CDL is intended to be applied to all their Mk1 Stock or just another Bitsa set they've been using?

So what's happened to the Afternoon Service now : https://westcoastrailways.co.uk/news/important-announcement-the-jacobite-pm-1

Sadly from my days in Regional Control, I do remember the efforts the Operations Staff made to make sure some kind of service was given to the passengers after our guys had cleared the line. Though I guess the guys hands are very much tied these days.

According to National Rail that's the main lines opened for normal service though to expect delays whilst the service gets back to normal.... Though I have to say advising everything is back to normal but not to travel North of Preston sounds like these days they still can't manage a piss up in brewery :)

The only thing is David, there was no such thing as Maroon to go with "Blood & Custard" that was BR Crimson (with BR Cream) the post 1956 colour was BR Maroon.... Bob

No you're not missing anything :) they are all Diagram 105 Mk2b TSO's - no 2b TSO's were ever built (or later converted) with centre doors. Only the Mk2 & 2a TSO's had the centre doors / transverse corridors. Note 5463 & 5491 were both scrapped last year if that's of any relevance. Bob

No, it wasn't permitted before the fire however it had become custom and practice amongst the attendants to have them kept locked for security reasons even when off the platforms and it doesn't appear to have been a big issue with the Inspectors at the Time. Training for the SC staff then was sadly lacking - very much a case of sitting with Nellie for new starts - getting taught all the good and sadly not helping 12 folk all the bad habits. Though it wasn't found to be an issue on the other regions, I certainly remember it happening on the Eastern / Midland / Scottish Regions. The biggest issue was that the locked doors made it difficult for evacuation of the vehicles and for the fireman to get access. Unfortunately most of those who perished were inside their berths.

12" to the foot any use? Bob Courtesy of Caitlin S. (Flickr) Courtesy of loose_grip_99 (Flickr)

I don't think it was an error Graham, sorry - I just hadn't read your post properly :) Since corrected! Bob.

It's the second coach here Graham, with G/GM Vents as you say! (I hadn't read the first time round). Photo courtesy of AJF1 Have a look at it in its largest size. P.s. Those later scalloped vents go way back before Mk1's thanks to the original (without the scallop) from Wolverton being used on late build LMS Stock. Bob.

It was the Commonwealth Bogies though they go it wrong in the table for the earlier batch that should have been the same tare weight having been equipped from new with them. (There's a picture of them fitted to W1644 at the time of their production at Pressed Steel in Paisley in Modern Railways at the time) though curiously it gives the Tare Weight as 38-1/2 Tons.