class37418stag Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hi In 1989 - 1994 whereabout in uk of wagon maintenance depot or light repair depot Thank you Bec I can't find it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hump Shunter Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Also check out latest edition of Rail Express magazine for an article on Wagon Maintenance Depots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Hi In 1989 - 1994 whereabout in uk of wagon maintenance depot or light repair depot Thank you Bec I can't find it In the period you're asking about, there were still a lot of wagon works of varying sizes throughout the UK. A few built wagons, but most just carried out repairs and routine maintenance. Many of the repair depots were near to major marshalling yards, others close to important traffic sources. By the end of the period, most had gone, being replaced by 'man and van'. Here are some examples:- BR-owned depots, and particular types they specialised in:- St Blazey, Cornwall (specialised in china clay hoppers) Barry, Burton and Worksop (specialised in MGR hoppers) Thornaby and Margam (mainly steel wagons) Carlisle Currock (parent depot for Speedlink wagons) Privately-owned depots, mainly involved in private-owner repair and maintenance, and 'new-build':- Marcroft, Stoke E G Steele, Hamilton, W H Davies, Shirebrook Procor, Horbury Quite a few of the BR-owned depots had been, or were on the site of, former loco depots, and retained some or all of the major structures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted May 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2013 When did The Crescent Shops at Peterborough close? Some more info here: - http://www.transportheritage.com/find-heritage-locations.html?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=32&sobi2Id=848 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 hello i has seen rail express 205 june 2013 modeller guide to wagon repair facilities - photo shown is at tonbridge wagon repair siding by hand crane lift Ex-HAA for replace wheel so i need more photo of wagon repair siding please thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 What is ''man and van'' ? They must still have to repair wagons somewhere ? What does a modern wagon maintenance depot look like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 What is ''man and van'' ? They must still have to repair wagons somewhere ? What does a modern wagon maintenance depot look like ?'Man and van' aka 'travelling fitter' is what it says; a man (or possibly two) with a small van, who goes to the terminal or wherever the vehicle has failed. Either the vehicle is patched up on site, or it is made fit to travel (at normal speeds)to somewhere where more permanent repairs can be effected. Quite often, a vehicle might have been detached because it has set off a 'Hot Box Detector' because of a brake sticking on. In such an instance, the 'M&V' would isolate the brake in question, so that the wagon could be moved, subject to there not being a 'flat', For larger jobs, a mobile crane or heavy-duty forklift might be used to lift a vehicle clear of a damaged wheel-set, for example. The shot of Blyth Cambois in the article mentioned shows a crane so-engaged. Such an approach isn't that recent; in the early 1980s, a pad was installed at Burry Port yard to allow wagons to be jacked up for running-gear repairs to be done. The article in 'Rail Express' shows a very-recently built facility at Tees Yard- a couple of dead-end sidings, fitted with jacks, and with a small shed, long enough to take a bogie wagon. This would be capable of dealing with almost anything below the level of a major rebuild. Only a few installations, such as Marcroft's (or whatever it's called these days) would have more sophisticated facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2013 The article in rail express is very good, particularly like the picture of C.C.Crumps in connahs quay taken in 1990, just before i started college in deeside. As some of you may know crumps is still owned by my step dad and i worked for him for a out 6 years before i went to work on the railway, just about the back end of them doin railway work, by the mid 90s the line i to crumps was severed as the the then newly privitised railway wanted to charge extortionate rates to run trains into there so my stepdad decided to shut the on site part of the business, nothing could come in by road due to the low bridge onto dock road, he concentrated on out atation work, primarily the cawoods train out of seaforth then ellesmere port, the ex ARC hoppers being used on the maryport to padiham coal flow and what was left of octel traffic out of ellesmere port Can remember what we did with the shunter in the picture in rail express but i think it was cut up, it was however replaced by a 0-4-0 yorkshire loco (similar to the one used on mostyn docks) which was sold to rfs when rail traffic was stopped, i did sit in the shed until about 1998 and was started every so often to keep it running The trackwork in the yard was pretty bad and i ended up with wagons off the road on a number of occassions which were merly jacked back on! When it was lifted i got hold of a few chairs and point throws but i dont know where they are now, there was allsorts in there, great central weighted point throws, LNER point lever my dad does have a LNWR boundry post from the site as well as a few wrexham mold and connahs quay chairs!! He also has an ex GWR porters trolley that one of the old boys used in his machine shop maked 'PADDINGTON' The red building in tge picture is the original 1947 building which was complimented in the 1980s by a new 4 road shop with pits in every road, the original building had a traverser in it but that was long gone by the time i started, it also had the paint shop and futher back was a shotblast bay, the paint shop in between dealing with rudds, 100t tanks, bromine tanks also dealt with my vauxhall chevette and mini having resprays!! The bloke doing the shunting in the picture is terry villiers who is now sadly no longer with us, a giant figure both in stature and personality a very funny but dry humoured man, never without his pipe as can be seen in the picture, one of the other old boys i worked with at crumps used to lodge away with him on a regular basis in workington on outstation work and has some great stories about him including the time they were sharing a room and alan (the other bloke) had gone for a shower and upon exiting the bathroom was greeted by the sight of terry posing statuesque on the bed with a roman vase from the sideboard perched above his head with his pipe hanging out the corner of his mouth wearing nothing but a pair of greying Y fronts. Another occasion he had accidently put toothpaste on his piles and brushed his teeth with preperation H Also he got clamped in workington while popping into a cafe to get a take away butty, as he was in the shop he spotted the clamper putting the clamp on the transit so he calmly went outside, out of site if the clamper he opened the back of the van, unfurled the oxy burning gear and appeared from behind the rear door of the van lighting a cigarette from the flame dropping his face mask and walked towards at the clamper who prompty removed the clamp and made a quick exit, and knowing terry he wouldn't have had any qualms about burning the clamp off!! A true gentleman and a pleasure to have worked with him, one in a million (Ive had a right smile on my face and a little tear in my eye writing that lot about terry, sorry its a bit O/T but its all part of the history of places like crumps) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Duddeston in Birmingham was another, opposite the station in the old Grand Junction Rly engine shed I think. Building still there, just. . Always a plentiful supply of wagons to photograph from the station. Mostly dealt with engiineering wagons IIRC Capstan shunting in to the shed as well. Had the chance to (legally) visit around 1997 after it had closed. It was very spooky in that it seemed everybody left work on Friday night and never came back. Overalls still hung up, ropes neatly stored, Lancing truck sat waiting for someone to use it, and a huge water leak where someone had nicked the pipe. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 What does a modern wagon maintenance depot look like ? Westbury still retains it's 'traditional' one that I think dates back to BR, mosty for work on DBS's engineers fleet in the area, and is easily viewable from an adjacent footpath if you want some inspiration. Similar to Brian's description of Tees, there's 3 tracks, none of them huge - one of them has a modern-ish (Pikestuff!) steel building roughly a bogie wagon in length, the rest of the work is done outside. Not sure i've ever shot an overall view (i'm usually puzzling how to frame the wagons around various bits of clutter and through a fence!) - but here's some that might give some ambience? OBA 110635 was a resident a couple of weeks back, being fitted for a new buffer (other end) - this little stub of track projects beyond the building. This is what the rest of the track area's generally look like - full of wagons, usually spaces slightly apart - tools, pallets etc from work being done, hard standing in some (but not all) area's. Several old containers provide storage space: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak experience Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 the photos of westbury are tantalising. i'd love to get a better perspective of the facility though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 the photos of westbury are tantalising. i'd love to get a better perspective of the facility though. The cripple sidings at Westbury are on the downside at the back of the yard, they can be seen at the top of this picture 33030 and 33002 arrive at Westbury with loaded seacows of ballast from Meldon Quarry, here they will run round and depart via Warminster for the Southern Region, 3/7/91 cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 When did The Crescent Shops at Peterborough close? Some more info here: - http://www.transportheritage.com/find-heritage-locations.html?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=32&sobi2Id=848 Model Rail did a layout based on it before it shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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