micknich2003 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Martin, a very interesting arrangement, have you anymore photo's please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted April 25, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2014 I thought these were electric point heaters. Has anyone any pictures of the gas heaters? Some had calor bottles nearby in cages. Switch Diamonds at Proof House in 1976, operated by Westinghouse Electro-Pneumatic machines and fitted with gas point heaters Photo C E Steele Electric point heaters I worked on came in two varieties. The earlier ones were a pad under the slide chairs, whilst the later ones were as the strips shown in post #12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColHut Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 HAND GENERATOR 1.jpgHAND GENERATOR 2.jpg From the Westinghouse catolouge, exact date unkown. There was a 1927 installation at Kirkella Cutting H&B Section, I have no photo's of the frame, only a signalling diagram and the MoT Inspection report. Mick. Excellent. Thankyou very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinzaC55 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just curious...one of the things I always remember about "the old days" at York station was the electro-pneumatic point machines and how you used to hear a loud "hiss , bang" when they changed. Are there any of these still in service anywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted April 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2014 There were still a few on the Midland side of New St Station at the power box end recently. There are also some points at Manchester Piccadilly which use the old EP mechanism but the piston is driven hydraulically by a Clamp Lock power pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Some pics here taken at Thirsk Dn sidings in 2011, top shot before maintenance and below after a bit of TLC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Not points or signals but locking them up.. Has no one any underpinning knowledge anymore? I was having trouble getting a track circuit to work...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Oh dear ! You wouldn't do that on a model railway. But these guys are professionals ? Merf. Maybe they were used to plastic chairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2014 Oh dear ! You wouldn't do that on a model railway. But these guys are professionals ? Merf. Maybe they were used to plastic chairs. More like muppets than professionals I'm afraid Merf - seems to be a post BR syndrome in some parts of the industry, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 More like muppets than professionals I'm afraid Merf - seems to be a post BR syndrome in some parts of the industry, Muppet was a word used at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2014 Muppet was a word used at the weekend. Along with several other words I suspect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Anglo Saxon frustration abounded from all parties. Initially those that installed it refused to sort it not believing it was a job stopper. It brought down two track circuits, one on the branch, one on the main. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff mcghie Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 oh dear.... the scottish mob, the orange mob or the soon to be departed blue mob? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff mcghie Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Shot of the old air powered points that were installed around Bescot Yard and similar including the connections. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2014 From the GWR magazine of December 1913 and largely self-explanatory from the accompanying notes. The trial site illustrated is almost certainly within the Signal Works yard with the point itself being operated by a normal two way hand lever of the pattern commonly found on the GWR. As usual the illustrations will enlarge if you click on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 And was that set up actually installed at Reading West as suggested? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2014 And was that set up actually installed at Reading West as suggested? Keith Reading Main Line West, i.e. the west end of Reading General station and presumably yes as I understand that Economic FPLs had been in use there c.1911 so this was presumably part of replacing them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Here is another form of "EFPL", Black's patent, and also ref to as a "Butterfly Lock". This example was once at Wrangbrook Jct Hull & Barnsley Rly, and remained in use until the '60's when the Wath Branch closed. Despite having had the photo for some years, I note the lock, actualy has "Tyers" cast into it, therefore it must be an LNER replacement for the original Saxby & Farmer apparatus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2014 Two more economical locks. This Midland one was at Kings Norton until the late 1970s Another type at Willesden Jn LL in 1988, this time based on a similar mechanism to the Westinghouse EP machine. Photographs C E Steele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I've posted these before on here.. Midland eco.. ordinary facing point.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2014 A pair of clamp locks at the start of this video and the same points being reversed at the start of this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Here's an interesting bit of detail, two "Compo's, and a mixture of both round and channel roding, and mixed in the same run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 York Locomotive North Eastern Rly, M&H 1909, Almost certainly, the most complex "Lead Off" worldwide. As an aside, a mate is about to model it in 7mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 12, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2014 Derailer at Wolverhampton HL operated by Westinghouse EP cylinder. Photo C E Steele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Singpoint Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Some close up views of FPL castings. This afternoons activities during restoration work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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