Merfyn Jones Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Another, just found. 3 x Bedford TK tractors, a Bantam and in the foreground a Vauxhall Viva 2 door car of the Midland Region, looks like BNK971G Plus what appears to be a Ergo cab artic of BRS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 29, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2010 Another, just found. 3 x Bedford TK tractors, a Bantam and in the foreground a Vauxhall Viva 2 door car of the Midland Region, looks like BNK971G Plus what appears to be a Ergo cab artic of BRS. http://www.flickr.co...idlandsrailways Yes it does look like an Ergo cab on the BRS unit. The unit looks like it has 3 axles, unusual in 1970. The other car is a Hillman Avenger and the van is a parcel van bodied Mk.1 Transit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hope this is not a dupe posting ; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hope this is not a dupe posting ; Yes it's the one marked Oakham in the batch listed above by jcb3c. Never mind Phil, keep looking, some real supprises out there. Just today I bought Railway Bylines for Jan.2011. A shot at York in July 1960 with behind the engine buffers, a Bedford TJ lorry. I have never seen or heard of one of these with BR before. Unfortunatley no numbers visible but my feelings are that it may be a tractor unit. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Have a feeling this may have come up before as well , but nice shot of NCL fg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Surprised that BR had no Bedford TJ's after all them O series ,does this mean all them Dublo Dinkys shouldn't be in the yard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 2, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2011 There is another BR crew truck in the 'after' photo. Though it is not possible to see the cab going by the size of the wheels and the 'Ergo' cabbed truck parked alongside it is probably a Bedford TK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Have a feeling this may have come up before as well , but nice shot of NCL fg ex. Western Region Morris FG van from the ###CLN batch of 1962, amongst the last of the red & cream livery when new. Merf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Though not of great quality I hope that these are of interest, both are from an article in Steel Times, March 13, 1964. The article covers the development of "steel railheads" at Moor Lane and Rood End to serve Birmingham and the Black Country. Opened originally by the Western Region, they were transferred to the London Midland in 1963. Rood End received billets from Llanelly and Briton Ferry steelworks whilst Moor lane handled strip from Ebbw Vale. Similar railheads were planned at Aston, Great Bridge and Wolverhampton Walsall Street with services from Sheffield, Scunthorpe and the North East. The railheads were served by overnight fitted trains and offered next day delivery. Rood End, above, received up to 14 trains per week, carrying billets from 24' to 30' carried on fitted bogie bolsters. Moor Lane received 5t, 1,200', coils which were unloaded by a 'Freight Lifter' fitted with Somers patent automatic lifting tongs which gripped both inside and outside the coil. That Freight Lifter is an interesting looking machine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Thanks Arthur. That's especially interesting because the Foden (YUV681) has survived to be preserved in its BR livery: http://community.fotopic.net/search/simple.php?tab=P&txt=yuv681 Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Excellent, thanks for the link Adam, nice to see it restored to it's former glory. Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Interesting pics Arthur, the Freightlifter forklift was made by Shelvoke and Dewry (S&D) famous for their bin wagons. London Brick wanted some big forklifts but only Hyster in USA were making this size so S&D were asked if they could make one. I assume as they were using a lot of hydraulics in their refuse trucks It has driving cabs at both end's because BR were prosecuted for having an accident where judge stated the drivers view was obstructed by a 'jungle of steel ' with the normal forklift single driving position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Thanks Arthur. That's especially interesting because the Foden (YUV681) has survived to be preserved in its BR livery: http://community.fotopic.net/search/simple.php?tab=P&txt=yuv681 Adam In fact, even better. Of the batch of 5 of these Fodens (YUV681-5) three have survived to be preserved, YUV684 and 685 also. Their survival owes a lot to the fact that they all became recovery vehicles with NCL. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Interesting pics Arthur, the Freightlifter forklift was made by Shelvoke and Dewry (S&D) famous for their bin wagons. London Brick wanted some big forklifts but only Hyster in USA were making this size so S&D were asked if they could make one. I assume as they were using a lot of hydraulics in their refuse trucks It has driving cabs at both end's because BR were prosecuted for having an accident where judge stated the drivers view was obstructed by a 'jungle of steel ' with the normal forklift single driving position. Thanks JCB, from that I was able to follow it up a bit. Seems, from what I can find, that the original design had the typical centre seating position and then a B.R.owned one was in an accident (on a public road?) leading to the judges comment above. Following that a revised design, with a two driving position layout, evolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Thats the S&D Freightlifter sorted out but just noticed the first pic shows a completely different forklift (used as crane) machine with high central driving/operating position, well obscured by the Foden, any ideas anyone ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Could it be the earlier version of the Freight Lifter? It seems to have the same metal ladder running half way up the nearside of the mast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 No don't think so , Freightlifters all had a low mounted central cab with hydraulic rams above cab, this looks more like a 'loading shovel' type layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Somthing a bit different today. I have always liked the privitised Freightliner livery. A quick look at what is available , I had a Frank Waller Leyland cab which I altered a bit to look somthing like the Leyland DAF 85 of 1995, fited to a Oxford chassis, hauling a hired triaxle flat loaded with a Bachmann 45' container. On order is a PH skelital trailer, which looked realy good on the RMweb thread. And also a B R Dodge 300 unit with a 27' Freightliner container (Hornby) to show 30 years of difference. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Just had a good read through this thread - some lovely stuff in it! It also shows an area which, I suspect, many enthusiast know very little about. The use of the EFE OB buses on layouts is a prime example! And the large personel carriers seem a world away from the Transit type crewbuses I'm used! And while I'm here, are there any drawings published for the Ford Cargo based crew buses? I remember them from when I was younger and I'd love to have one for the early nineties layout I'm planning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 And while I'm here, are there any drawings published for the Ford Cargo based crew buses? I remember them from when I was younger and I'd love to have one for the early nineties layout I'm planning. Hello James. This is my drawing of the standard 14 seat personnel carrier as found on the Ford Cargo as well as the other chassis. The only difference was that by the time the Cargo came out they had flat roofs (from about 1984) Merf. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 That's superb! Thank you for posting that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Found this one, a possible conversion of the Base Toys FG to a 22 seater. Maybe easiest to start with the parcel van. Merf. http://tillyknot.fotopic.net/p54052795.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Another from Steel Times, this one August 7th, 1964; Steel bar from GKN's East Moors works is loaded onto a BMC tractor/semi trailer outfit at South Lambert. The bars were for use in the construction of the Victoria line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Another from Steel Times, this one August 7th, 1964; Steel bar from GKN's East Moors works is loaded onto a BMC tractor/semi trailer outfit at South Lambert. The bars were for use in the construction of the Victoria line. Interesting picture Arthur, not one I have seen before. Is the registration and fleet number clear enough to read on the original please. To me it appears to be TYO395 & 8630 D W but not sure. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Merf, The original is very grainy, even with a magnifying glass it's difficult to be sure. I'd say the reg is TYO 396, the least clear is the last letter so the O might just be a D. Again I think you've got the fleet number right. The second number is the least clear but 8630D seems right. Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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