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a couple of my i posted in the old thread.

in the grounds of carrick villa, to the east of largo station on the former east of fife railway line

i can't remember what it turned out to be, apart from being a demountable container of some kind.

btw, haven't been up that way for a while, but i presume it's still there

There is a music video from the 1980's that must contain the only known footage both interior and exterior of the experimental Class 210 DEMU in service.

PS: If you want 1980s music videos, how about one of the biggest-selling singles ever, Bronski Beat's Small Town Boy, featuring the high-voiced singer leaving town on what appears to be some sort of Sprinter ("alone on a platform, the wind and the rain on a sad and lonely face..."). Presumably he was disappointed at the crapness of the rolling stock.

you see him getting on the train (nice and polite shutting the doors behind him!) and the interior, then at the very end @4:45, when he gets off you see the DMS

don't think we've had these before, 5113+5129 on a railtour in sept. 1973

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerryp28/5913413310/in/set-72157626602091241/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerryp28/5912852127/in/set-72157626602091241/

re: that sinking feeling

my memory played tricks, but continuity plays more! the scene from 3:00-3:14 involves going down the steps to springburn station,

from 3:20-3:40 shows the push-pull set (albeit lengthened for dramatic effect).

does anyone recognize the station (not disused as i originally thought)?

might be bishopbriggs, the train is defo glas-edin with the BSO at the back

http://youtu.be/zG7jbpHjNPU

p.s. how do i get a youtube video to show? have tried different tags/brackets etc but always shows as a link?

'get carter' has been mentioned - good interior shots of mk2a FK and mk1 dining car as well as the deltic cabride!

bill forsyth's 'that sinking feeling' has a scene where characters meet on a disused platform on the edin-QS line and a class 27 push-pull set goes hammering past

ABC's 'all of my heart' video has a 501 going past

The Young Ones episode 'bambi' has them tearing about a station (bristol temple meads?) and leaving on a 125, all accompanied by motorhead doing 'ace of spades'!

fantastic video mike, thanks for posting. a real goldmine of stuff, particularly the 40 using water troughs and a clip of a met-camm at kirkcaldy showing the lino factories(@13.25)

funny thing is, i've gto his videos favourited, but had only watch the blue-era ones!

the earliest WTT i have is '75/'76 and pretty much all inv-edin/glas are down as 2 x 24/26, with timing loads from 290-450t (not including motorails/sleepers)

other line services of similar loads are only assigned 1 loco, so it would seem the terrain is the main factor, followed by, as you say, improved timing

e.g. some trains reach perth in 2.5 hrs, others up to 4 hrs

in the time of triple-headers, was the HBS only required to/from perth? certainly glasQS had limited platform lengths so 3 locos would mean shorter trains, mind you edin waverley would not have that problem

anyway enough ignorance from me, just found another pic, albeit unidentified

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadmans_handle/4612825360/in/set-72157624288321587

maybe a double-header with a failure?

given the amount of clag going on there doesn't seem to be much/any coming from the loco nearest the coaches.

if double-heading was necessary for the train and one failed, the 24 was perhaps commandeered from a local working to help out?

another new one on RAILSCOT. no number given, but maybe able to deduce from details:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36611

(also, very OT, a nice phot of a clayton on LGW wagons http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36594 )

i think the the original idea was that blue/grey was for mainline loco-hauled stock and multiple-units would be given plain blue?

which quite soon became blue/grey for any mainline/express stock of whatever form, with plain blue for the humdrum 'secondary' stock - REP/TC/VEP/CIG/BIG etc got blue/grey early 70s

of course, much later in the 70s, blue/grey became the general livery for all stock, inc. EPBs although not all MU stock received it

a pic of 129 at haymarket 7/76

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltic_baggie/6146306253/in/set-72157627561415426

a shot posted already of 125 at carstairs 4/76 shows no lamps and normal boxes:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5553832327/

(also shows 099, which must've went south at the same time as it is apparently in the line-up linked to above)

126 at donny 3/77, again no lamps and normal boxes

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6047982463/

apols if this has been linked to before, 127 at IS in 6/69 shows normal boxes

http://www.flickr.com/photos/curly42/6008052541/

but this shot at st. rollox in 10/74 seems to show it had gained a fairing box at least at no.2 end

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltic_baggie/6146306127/

from the same flickr set as above, down and out and a long way from home....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/5759631148/in/set-72157626805445858/

looking very good, just the thing to allow you short trains

for mallard, 80s blue/grey also meant SR headcode box and high level pipes/jumpers

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975025

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975025395280

oakwood press has a few.

don't know about other areas, but fife-wise there's one each for st. andrews railway, anstruther& st. andrews railway, burntisland and the wemyss private railway.

still no sign of the leven & east of fife volume yet though

(apols for the brief post, will edit when i get the chance!)

not sure if these are 24s or 25s, perhaps someone here can tell.

looks like the leading loco has actually the tablet catcher in use!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=28489

another pic of a BFO:

http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p520092474/e6ae915e

i suppose a TGS would be the best way of getting the 'door and a third' at the guard's end.

you'd have to watch with the windows though - note, from the far end, you have 6 normal saloon windows, then a slightly bigger gap before the 7th window (which is in the guard's office, i think). i'm trying to find a similar pic of the other side, which is the same except there is an 8th window at normal spacing from the 7th window - if you see what i mean

the other main things to check might be the ventilation pods at the roof ends and you would need to have buffers and built-in tail lights

EDIT: found this page http://www.marstonparkway.org.uk/adapting_stock_20.html

the roof vents look the same type as on the HST, i.e. the square cover on the roof centreline

EDIT 2: didn't notice the first photo has already been mentioned - sorry!

Neither of these are South Wales but may give you an excuse:

 

The occasional train to Akeman Street had a long propelling move from Calvert and continued into the early 90's (sorry I don't have a final date but must have been later than 1990 as I filmed it after moving into current house). Traffic was bagged fertiliser in covered vans (not sure of designation of van type).

 

Edit: Propelling move was FROM Akeman Street TO the 'mainline' Calvert-Aylesbury

 

The Redmire branch train also conveyed a brake van as the long branch had many manual crossings and conveyed crew for gate operation. (PGA's?)

i might be wrong, as i'd have to find the DVD in question, but i think these are on the 'rail freight today' series (i have the 5 DVD box set from 2006, which i got cheap from 'the works'.) was this the one where it was palletised, bagged fertiliser, offloaded by fork-lift from VGAs or similar.(i.e. one half of the side swings out and is slid along to access the load)

backscenes are wonderful, dave. you seem to have got the angle of capture just right, as opposed to just sticking a photie on!

meant to say, the hugh longworth 1st. gen DMUs book has lots of sets listed at various times, inc. the 108s.

e.g. 1988 - 101 3xx, 104 4xx, 107 4xx, 108 3xx, 120 5xx (either HA or ED, AY being a long shot?)

incidentally, i think it was waverley - glasgow central via shotts, one of those services where i doubt anyone travelled end-to-end, when there was always a much quicker option! (unless of course, you really like 1st. gen DMUs! )

sorry about that!

i remember seeing it in one of my photos and where it is is very near to railway line (line passes just behind the mast).

i looked up the site linked to, the results are shown below. the yellow cross is roughly where it actually is.

EDIT: the second one is UMTS

(incidentally, spamcan's picture is of kirkcaldy station - sinclairtown station was a bit further north, but closed in 1969)

this one on the site of the former sinclairtown goods yard in kirkcaldy - a similar mast, but smaller boxes and fenced in. couldn't get any closer, but i've left the image big, so click for bigger version.

notice the 'old fashioned' equivalent on the left (the light brown one) - there are several of these telegraph poles here, albeit without wires!

some shots at the NRM here: http://www.traintesting.com/HST_prototype.htm

specifically this photo http://www.traintesting.com/images/HST-PC__rear_panel.jpg shows that it has 415v 3-phase jumpers

if it's capable of supplying the ETH to an HST set, the only thing to work round would be mods to the control system to make it compatible with a production set (the orange socket above the tail light is the control jumper socket, the cable bieng mounted on the other side of the gangway). also note RCH jumpers are provided, presumably for lighting/PA

edit: the production HST has a single 36-way control jumper mounted below the buckeye

i loved this pic on the other thread it was on (which i can't remember!)

as opposed to a shot of a real scene, to me this looks like a slide taken at the time and has since been scanned into flickr or similar. i think it's the contrasts/colours, where either might have went slightly 'off' in translation.

(btw this is no slight on your modelling or photography, both are wonderful - it's just the combination that makes me think of other pics i've seen, esp. on flickr)

good to see it coming together paul.

however long something takes, it's always nice to see it on the rails and (nearly) finished!

as often happens, i was raking about t'internet and stumbled upon this:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=34016

your colours look to be a pretty good match! other pics here:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/location.php?loc=Fintown

(the link to the donegal railway history doesn't seem to work)

cheers

Prior use for the Royal Train?

could be bob, i'm sure i've seen pics of a 25 so fitted, albeit with a round blanking plate

i think there was a 'standard' royal train comms line, reminds me of a pic i've seen of 2 warships with a cable that was draped along the roof/sides. at some point there must've been the instruction to have the cable go through the locos?

edit: had a look here http://www.derbysulzers.com/royaltrain.html

perhaps different locos had the wire come through in different positions, then plated over with round/square plates