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Thanks Ian Not being overly 'mechanically or electrically gifted', I'm loathe to risk wrecking any of my good ones. Brian

Hello cypherman One of the 'mystifying problems' is that the loco was fine before it was put away for some weeks. Hello Johnster All areas of the loco have been thoroughly cleaned. I phoned Hornby about the loco, but it is too old for them to touch. Although the loco 'stalls', my controller stays fully alive. As noted earlier, I have changed controller with no effect. Brian

Hello Johnster Many thanks for your continued support! I have stripped all the 'DCC stuff' out so that it is just plain wires - but exactly the same 5ft or so then dies. Give it a five second break, and it will do it all again! I'm afraid the swapping and re-wiring on the keeper plates is a bit 'too worrying' for me and I don't want to wreck any of my good engines! Brian

Thanks JeffP Johnster beat me to the keyboard! Brian

Hello everyone A reminder that the 'Polling Station' for Mini-Poll No.2 will be closing at 1700 tomorrow, Thursday 27 May (with Results planned for Friday). If you haven't yet voted, here’s what to do… 1. You may choose the Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets, then a maximum of three Gresley catering items and two Thompson catering. 2. You cannot ‘transfer votes’ to have five Gresley and no Thompson etc. although you can vote for just the Steel Panel 5-sets, just Gresley catering or just Thompson catering. 3. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR. 4. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 1, 2, 4, 7, 9 – with comments and explanations following. Or you can vote to me direct via PM with the same 'numbers only' style. 1. Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets GN & GC (1935 & 1939-1942) 2. Gresley Buffet Car (Diag.167, as rebuilt 1958/9) 3. Gresley Cafeteria Car (RCAF, rebuilt from Diag.95 Third Sleeper 1954) 4. Gresley Restaurant Pantry Third (eg Diags.15, 112, 151 & 321 of 1925-1943) 5. Gresley Restaurant First & Open Third (eg Diag.10C RF & Diag.27A, 27C TO, 1928/9) 6. Gresley Triplet Articulated Restaurant Set (eg Diags.12, 13, 14, 1924) 7. Thompson FO/Kitchen Car/TO (eg Diags.351, 353, 350, 1947 & 1948) 8. Thompson Restaurant First & Open Third (eg Diag.354 & Diag. 350, 1949 & 1947) 9. Thompson Pressure Ventilated Stock Buffet Lounge Car (1947) Brian

Hello again Johnster Well...I was able to remove the motor far more easily than I had imagined! It is held by a small 'L' shape bracket and screw. The chassis without motor pushes along superbly smoothly with no binding. The motor itself - when connected with two wires from the track - responds immediately and runs up to what I guess would be full speed with no hesitation, heating, sparking etc. Having put it all back to together, she still runs smoothly but will no go faster than dead slow and then fails after about 5ft. There is a 'small round thing' in the wiring - a capacitor? Could that be the problem? Can it 'blow'? Brian

Hello Chris The NPCCS and Freight Stock Polls are not yet published. Am I misunderstanding something with your choices 3, 4, 5? You have already voted in Mini-Poll No.3. Brian

Hello everyone Many thanks to all who have contributed to the voting and commenting on the Mini-Polls so far. As I have slightly revamped NPCCS into one poll (instead of two) - and that Gilbert has kindly approved an idea submitted by Phil (Mallard) - the running order and Poll numbering from Monday is as below. No.3: Non-passenger-carrying Coaching Stock (NPCCS) No.4: Freight Stock – 4-wheel (Pre-1951) No.5: Freight Stock – 4-wheel (Post-1950) No.6: Freight Stock – 8-wheel No.7: Departmental Stock Brian

Hello Bloodnok The reason some are missing is that - in the interests of brevity - I didn't give the values for 7, 9 and 11 coaches. The essence is that a 6-coach train length is about 'a fair median'. Brian

Ah! Ok Johnster, thanks, I'll try that. Brian

Hello Johnster Thanks again. I have gone as far as I can go with 'fault finding' and nothing is showing up. It is beyond me as to taking the motor out! I have managed to get a bargain price replacement in the meantime. I have also rung Hornby, but R2404 is too old for them to keep parts. I guess the old one will go on eBay as a non-runner one day! Brian

Hello again Clive On reflection, the RCAF might well have been left out. However, if I had, then someone would have asked why I wasn't listing it. In general, I am aiming for items that have at least some relevance to PN - but it's not always straightforward. I didn't list the Quintuplet Restaurant Car Sets - primarily for the 'train length reason' that has now popped up. Brian

Hello Bloodnok 10 respondents said 5 coaches max; another 10 said 4 coaches; 5 said 3 coaches; 1 said 2 coaches. Brian

Hello Clive I always state the items as 'eg' as it is often impossible to be totally precise. My listing here was as per The Guide to the 2019 00 Wishlist Poll below. Brian Extract... (LNER) Gresley Cafeteria Car (RCAF, rebuilt from Diag.95 Third Sleeper 1954) In the 1950s a wide variety of pre-Nationalisation (and some pre-Grouping) coaches were rebuilt as Cafeteria Cars, largely at Eastleigh Works, Southern Region. Amongst these were six former Third Sleepers to Diag.95 which had served in ambulance trains during WWII. Although they retained the typical Gresley profile their appearance was transformed with flush panelling and British Standard gangways (with adaptors) replaced the original Pullman gangways. Numbered 9209-9214, S9211E and S9213E were on the Southern Region, ending their lives in green livery. In 1960, S9213E was noted in the Margate-Birkenhead through train. The other four, at least initially, were allocated to the London Midland Region.

Hello Phil Are you voting for the Steel Panel Sets? If so, I need to see a '1' in your post - otherwise I can't presume to assume. Brian

Hello LNER4479 This certainly is Gilbert's thread and it is right and proper that he pronounces 'yeah' or 'nay' to anything appearing. However, from my standpoint - as the 'deputy' running the Mini-Polls - part of the agreed reasoning was the hope that contributors would debate the matter constructively, and you have all done so superbly well (so far!). If there is 'slight drift' for valid reasons - such as comparing relevant company catering vehicles against the list - then that is fair enough, in my view. Brian

Hello Ian and LNER4479 I recall speaking with Bachmann at the launch of the 6-car MIdland Pullman - they told me that they wouldn't make the WR 8-car as most people wouldn't have enough room. But... they originally said some years previously that they wouldn't ever make the 6-car! Brian

Hello Ian You are making an assumption there... The respondents came to me directly via email and most were known to me personally having been on MREmag for years. Six is probably a fair median, though. Brian

Hello Ian When I ran a 'Train Length Survey' on the old MREmag back in 2014, I had 119 respondents in 00. Of those, 21 could run 6-coach max trains; 19 could run 8-coach; 15 could run 10-coach; and 8 could run 12 or more. Brian

Hello LNER4479 Fully agree with you there! Bachmann produced the Mk1 RFO in 2001 but hasn't 'followed through' with the RSO and RK. Hornby has the GWR Collett Restaurant Car dating from 1978 and the LMS 12-wheel Car emanating from Dapol in 1985. On the plus side, Hornby has produced the Maunsell RF - with some other catering stock in the pipeline - and the LMS Coronation Scot trains have the Full Monty...so, perhaps there is hope for the LNER/ER yet! Brian

Hello everyone Here are my choices…1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8. The Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets GN & GC are a vital component of the rolling stock we are discussing. It is interesting to note that – if the GE Section Stock noted in Mini-Poll No.1 was ever made - the CK in the first sets for the GN were 52ft 6in also. In BR days, they were replaced by Thompson or BR Mk1s and, as time went on, the sets tended to be split up. A lone Twin of Diags.194/195 was noted on the S&D in Maroon in 1958. Lone Twins of Diag.304 in Crimson & Cream were noted on that line in 1955 and 1958. A Crimson & Cream BTK+TK Twin was even photographed on the Southern Region’s North Cornwall line and Twin Diag.304 BSK+SK Nos.E16841/2E were photographed at Bournemouth Central c.1960 in a Poole-Bradford train. Although Hornby makes a Gresley Diag.167 Buffet Car in ‘as built’ condition, many were modernised in 1958/59 drastically changing the external appearance on the kitchen side. Going by the GN Carriage Working Book for 1958, the Gresley Restaurant First & Open Third would be useful for the 1.20pm and 6.26pm from King’s Cross (although I stand to be corrected as they could be Thompson types, I suppose! Can anyone say?). Although the Gresley Triplet Articulated Restaurant Sets only just lasted into the 1960s, they are ‘distinctive’ and offer plenty of liveries from 1924. The Thompson RF & TO ran in ersatz Teak, Red & Cream and Maroon liveries. Although classified as ‘Restaurant First’, they were later downgraded to ‘Restaurant Unclassed’, and one was used in the formation of The Fair Maid. They lasted until the mid-1960s. The Thompson FO/Kitchen Car/TO are highly distinctive vehicles, the Kitchen Car being readily identified by the fact that all but one of the windows and droplights are white opaque. They lasted until the mid-1960s. Brian

00 Rolling Stock Poll No.2: Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets plus Gresley & Thompson Catering Hello everyone Welcome to the second of our series of seven 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Polls. This Mini-Poll concerns the Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets which were inadvertently omitted from Mini-Poll No:1 together with catering stock that has at least some connection with Peterborough North. You can submit your wishes here, on the thread, as usual, or PM me direct if you prefer the ‘secret ballot’ method. If you vote on the thread, please feel free to explain why you have chosen your selection – hopefully, that will promote some interesting debates – but please do not take it as an excuse to start up the old chestnut of ‘kits vs RTR’! Here’s what to do… 1. You may choose the Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets, then a maximum of three Gresley catering items and two Thompson catering. 2. You cannot ‘transfer votes’ to have five Gresley and no Thompson etc. although you can vote for just the Steel Panel 5-sets, just Gresley catering or just Thompson catering. 3. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR. 4. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 1, 2, 4, 7, 9 – with comments and explanations following. If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations. 1. Gresley Steel Panel 5-sets GN & GC (1935 & 1939-1942) 2. Gresley Buffet Car (Diag.167, as rebuilt 1958/9) 3. Gresley Cafeteria Car (RCAF, rebuilt from Diag.95 Third Sleeper 1954) 4. Gresley Restaurant Pantry Third (eg Diags.15, 112, 151 & 321 of 1925-1943) 5. Gresley Restaurant First & Open Third (eg Diag.10C RF & Diag.27A, 27C TO, 1928/9) 6. Gresley Triplet Articulated Restaurant Set (eg Diags.12, 13, 14, 1924) 7. Thompson FO/Kitchen Car/TO (eg Diags.351, 353, 350, 1947 & 1948) 8. Thompson Restaurant First & Open Third (eg Diag.354 & Diag. 350, 1949 & 1947) 9. Thompson Pressure Ventilated Stock Buffet Lounge Car (1947) Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will give you a ‘Thx tick’ to acknowledge receipt of your vote. You have until 17.00 on Thursday 27 May. However, I will stop earlier and advise if votes reach 50. I will present the results during the day on Friday 28 May. I look forward to your selections and comments! Brian (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from me in my ‘personal capacity’.)

Hello cypherman All suitably re-lubricated and all pick-ups exactly in the right place. The loco was running with no problem when it was put away just a few weeks ago (probably less than 6 weeks) but had ''the problem' as soon as it was back on the layout. She moves very smoothly in any direction. Brian

Hello Johnster Many thanks for your comprehensive reply - I have tried most of what you say, but, sadly, to no avail. The loco is DC but has a DCC harness (I think that's what they are called). DCC-ready. The gearbox etc has been thoroughly flushed out with spay can switch cleaner (IPA). The body was already off and nothing is binding (brake blocks, track pins stuck in the works, keeper plate adjusted or off). When I put my Xuron track cutters near the motor, the pull was so strong it took me by surprise! In fact, I can lift the loco off the track with cutters firmly attached to the motor with no chance of it falling off! I have tried a different controller and swapped the tender - no difference. There is not even the faintest rise in temperature of the motor as it 'fails' nor is there any smell of burning. As noted earlier, it is like someone has fitted a speed limiter and only permitted maximum distance running of about five feet before failing! Brian

Hello cypherman I haven't detected any overheating. When the loco is running, it is as smooth as silk - although it feels that it has had a 'speed limiter' fitted. Brian