BMacdermott

Final Call for Votes - 00 Mini-Poll No:1 Gresley & Thompson Gangwayed Hello everyone Just a reminder that the Polling Station will be closing at 17.00 tomorrow, Thursday 20 May and the results will be published on Friday 21 May. Brian

Hello manna I'm sorry to say that you have chosen four Gresley types, whereas the maximum is three (as per the introduction announcement). Please feel free to vote again as I have not recorded your wishes here. Thanks. Brian

Hello again LNER4479 I have just had a look through the Hugh Longworth book, Pre-Nationalisation Coaching Stock, Volume 1 (LNER section) but I can't find many GNR types that made it in fair numbers into Gilbert's era. Having said that, if you can come up with a list of - say - half a dozen or so that at least 'got close', then I could submit that to Gilbert as an idea for a future Mini-Poll, perhaps as an 'add-on' to this series. It might mean adding in one or two NER or ECJS types? Hope that helps. Brian Brian

Hello LNER4479 We did, indeed, think 'far beyond the borders of just the ECML' when my colleagues and I were running The 00 Wishlist Poll. Hence, we provided a Guide and went out to modellers around the world. However, as noted in my introduction, the aim of this mini-poll was to focus on what might be seen through Peterborough North in Gilbert's time-frame. Your point is gladly taken - and others could well take note - that what was seen at Peterborough could well be seen far and wide. Brian

Yep! Brian

Nope! Brian

Hello Alistair You are 'forgiven' - but only because you voted for some of my choices! Brian

Thanks Gilbert. We left the 66ft 6in Sleepers out of The 00 Wishlist Poll after due consideration - but I can't recall the reason why! Perhaps if my colleagues, Chris Knowles-Thomas and Robert Carroll, take part they may be able to throw some light on the matter. Whilst writing, a friend has asked me to vote on his behalf as: 1, 2, 3 and 9. Brian

Hello Clive Thanks for mentioning this. Hands up! It was an error in the last 00 Wishlist Poll where the Steel-sided stock was accidentally listed under 'non-gangwayed' ... and I missed it here! I am running Gresley & Thompson Catering next week and there is a 'spare space' in that Poll. I will add this stock with a special note so that readers can vote if they so wish. I have deliberately left out articulated stock - between you, me and all Gilbert's readers, we are looking at running that as a Poll Team exercise with Andy York later in the year for all to see. Brian

Thanks Andrew. Good to hear from you and I hope all is well with you. Brian

Hello everyone Here are my votes and reasons: 1, 2, 3 and 9. I believe the GE Section 52ft 6in Stock is vital to go with the wide range of GER/LNER locos now available. They travelled far and wide and are clearly 'distinctive' with the shorter length. The existing range of Gresley 61ft 6in General Service Stock could be enhanced by Hornby - bearing in mind that some (many?) feel the profile is wrong on the current models. Plenty of scope there! And the same goes for the End Door Stock - vital for ECML services. I have only voted for Thompson Round Corner Window Stock - again, a vital component of trains passing through Peterborough North. I haven't voted for either of the Sleepers. I can't see a lot of market for such stock with all its complexities. Brian

Hello again Alistair and everyone This is an example of how to submit your votes: 1, 3 , 5, 9, 10. If you so desire, you can follow that up with your reasons and arguments as to why you think such stock should be made. Thanks Brian

Hello Alistair (and everyone) Could I ask you vote 'by numbers' as requested, please? There are several 61ft 6in items. This helps me log your exact wishes. Thanks Brian

Hello Andy Good point! I'm so used to running just 00, it automatically happened! I have amended the title accordingly! Thanks. Brian

00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.1: Gresley & Thompson Gangwayed Hello everyone Welcome to the first of this series of seven Mini-Polls concerning rolling stock that has at least some connection with Peterborough North. I am running them on behalf of Gilbert. You can submit your wishes here, on the thread, as usual, or PM me direct if you prefer the ‘secret ballot’ method. If you vote on the thread, please feel free to explain why you have chosen your selection – hopefully, that will promote some interesting debates – but please do not take it as an excuse to start up the old chestnut of ‘kits vs RTR’! Here’s what to do… 1. You may choose a maximum of three Gresley items and two Thompson. 2. You cannot ‘transfer votes’ to have five Gresley and no Thompson etc. although you can vote for just Gresley or just Thompson. 3. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR. 4. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7, 9, 10 – with comments and explanations following. 5. If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations. Get your thinking caps on and get voting! 1. Gresley GE section Stock 52ft 6in (eg Diags.9, 141, 146, 216 of 1926-1936) 2. Gresley General Service Stock 61ft 6in (eg Diags.1, 114, 115, 130, 174, 175 of 1920s-1939) 3. Gresley ‘End Door’ Stock 61ft 6in (eg Diags.155, 211, 212, of 1932 & 1936) 4. Gresley Sleeping Cars 61ft 6in (eg Diags.17, 20, 109 of 1924 & 1929) 5. Gresley Tourist Green & Cream Stock (eg 61ft 6in BTO & Buffet, 52ft Artic Twin TO of 1933) 6. Gresley Tourist Teak Stock (eg 61ft 6in Diag.186 TO & Diags.191/196 BTO of 1934 & 1935) 7. Gresley Streamlined Stock (of 1935 & 1937) inc Beaver Tail Observation Cars (as built and rebuilt) 8. Thompson Pressure Ventilated Stock (eg Diags.328, 329, 346, 348, 349, 351, 352, 353 of 1947) 9. Thompson Round Corner Window Stock (eg Diags.328, 330, 345, 346 of c.1948) 10. Thompson Sleeping Cars 66ft 6in (eg Diags. 347, 359, 368, 369 of 1947-1952) You have until 17.00 on Thursday 20 May. However, I will stop earlier and advise if votes reach 50. I will present the results during the day on Friday 21 May. I look forward to your selections and comments! Brian (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from me in my ‘personal capacity’.)

Hello Bloodnok I 'took it as read' that you - or anyone else - would consult Gilbert before starting any poll. That's why my idea went to him via PM in the first instance. Brian

Hello Sandhole Please vote on Monday - I am not counting until then, and only on those on the list. Thanks. Brian

Hello Bloodnok You are welcome to try that one yourself, but I would be grateful if you could hold it until my series finishes - comments may arise that could usefully 'feed into' what you do. Personally, I wont take the job on...I know from experience of running The 00 Wishlist Poll that it's a difficult subject! Brian

Hello LNER4479 You'll have to wait until Monday 24 May! Brian

Rolling Stock Mini-Polls (being run on behalf of Gilbert by Brian Macdermott) Hello everyone Recently, Gilbert asked for suggestions for his series of informal and highly enjoyable polls. I submitted an idea for a series of seven weekly polls – each of no more than 10 items per week – concerning rolling stock not yet (or not fully yet) available in RTR form and which have at least some relevance to Peterborough North traffic. These Polls will be for items that you would like to see made RTR and would realistically wish to buy. I make the assumption that any item would be produced in a full range of liveries from LNER to BR. The Polls will be: No.1: Gresley & Thompson Gangwayed No.2: Gresley & Thompson Catering No.3: Non-passenger – 4- & 6-wheel No.4: Non-passenger – 8-wheel No.5: Freight Stock – 4-wheel (Pre-1951) No.6: Freight Stock – 4-wheel (Post-1950) No.7: Freight Stock – 8-wheel The first will start next Monday 17 May during the morning. You will have until 17.00 on Thursday 20 May to submit your wishes – either here, on the thread, or PM direct to me if you prefer the ‘secret ballot’ method. I will present the results during the day on Friday 21 May. Subsequent Polls will follow the same Monday, Thursday, Friday timetable; however, on Monday 5 July, I will present a full summary: ‘Overall Results – Top-to-Bottom’. In the unlikely event that any poll reaches 50 votes, I will stop early and advise by a posting to this thread – so vote early! Gilbert and I hope you will find these Mini-Polls both challenging and interesting – you will certainly need your thinking caps on as you have to make a limited selection from the lists! If you vote on the thread, please feel free to explain why you have chosen your selection – hopefully, that will promote some interesting debates – but please do not take it as an excuse to start up the old chestnut of ‘kits vs RTR’. These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved (apart from me in my ‘personal capacity’.) All the best, Brian

Hello Gilbert I will PM you one shortly so that you can decide whether to run it or not. Brian

Hello Chris Have you asked Mike Arlett? Brian

Hello again Just found the site below - the aerial photo (1948) is worth a look. Brian http://www.crht1837.org/history/camdengoodsdepot

Hello Iain You have probably seen this - and it is too early for your model - but it may help overall understanding of the area. Brian

Hello Iain If that can't be answered here, you might get some joy from the 'Skills & Knowledge' Forum. Brian https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/35-permanent-way-signalling-infrastructure/