martin_wynne

??? If you give permission, it is not theft.

That was my reason for posting it. I'm mystified what other humour there is in it? Martin.

My point was that facilities provided to the general public do not generate any ticket income to justify the cost of better facilities. If you have paid a goodly sum to the railway company to be delivered to Farnborough North, or anywhere else, you might hope for something a bit better in customer service on arrival. Which might encourage more folks to visit Farnborough North by train, which would generate extra income to pay for the facilities provided. We are supposed to be encouraging more use of public transport, and I don't see the current experience of using that side of Farnborough North station doing much towards that. For example, a mug of hot soup on arrival would be very welcome. Someone to help with luggage. A warm waiting room with a log fire. The Town Band playing popular tunes in the car park... ... Martin.

V.I.P. parking space. But surely that should now be the Mid-Day Meal Provisioning Supervisor ?

Those facilities are provided for the general public -- the crossing is a public right-of-way. No additional facilities are provided for the railway's paying customers. Martin.

Oddly, in this 2008 view of the far end, there is a telephone provided to contact the signaller: https://goo.gl/maps/5vE3qFasyzawUkRNA The telephone seems to have been removed in the later view. Martin.

It is still a cycle route, using the footpath crossing. The gates are padlocked shut. It's called the Blackwater Valley Red Cycle Route. See map: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8020914#map=17/51.30254/-0.73823 That's probably why one-at-a-time pedestrian gates are not feasible. There is another level crossing at the far end, again with padlocked road gates. However the sign does say "Public Bridleway", and equestrian access from that end is permitted. see: https://goo.gl/maps/bx1YBybagFNLTaer7 Martin.

I give up. I said "With a reasonable means of safely continuing to the town centre of the place the railway is claiming to serve." i.e. a normal public road or footpath.

I said "reasonable". For example, on leaving the railway company's premises you might expect to be in a position to summon a taxi. Dicing with death across a live railway line with luggage ought not to be part of a public transport system. Martin.

I would think a paying customer could reasonably expect to be delivered to the front door of the company's premises. With a reasonable means of safely continuing to the town centre of the place the railway is claiming to serve. Being dumped on a distant platform and left to fend for themselves hardly strikes me as proper customer service. Martin.

Which logically suggests that the railway provision at the station for its customers should be greater now than it was then. Not reduced to almost nothing. Martin.

The trains would have been locally controlled, and the wicket gate locked before the signals can be cleared. All under the watchful eye of the signaller. These are not country walkers crossing the line in the middle of a field at their own risk. They are paying customers of the railway who expect to be delivered to their destination in one piece. Martin.

Build a branch line to the school!

But not many without a signal box.

Not fish:

Hi Michael, Here is a video showing how to do that. Templot will get the map for you and set it to the correct scale: https://85a.uk/templot/companion/get_map_from_the_web.php cheers, Martin.

Hi Michael, DON'T DO THAT! If you change the scaling the track won't match your track plan and templates. To adjust the chair fit, click this button and change the settings: But first, you can probably use better settings in your FDM slicer than the standard profiles provided. The default settings in the chair fit button should work well if you get the slicer settings better. I'm in the middle of explaining the slicer settings for you on Templot Club forum, but I knew you wouldn't wait until I've finished! 🙂 The chairs are designed to be a tight press fit in the sockets, they don't just drop in (otherwise they would need some glue). You can firm them home by tapping a hardwood block on the rail top with a pin hammer: If you are using the solid-jaw slide-on chairs, don't try to fit them without rail in them. Martin.

Yes, I was thinking of that when I wrote it. But in that case the problem was a failure of the leaf-cleaning regime. Hopefully that has been changed since, or extra speed restrictions introduced when conditions are bad. Martin.

. I give up. How much would a shuttle bus round the local schools to and from the station cost? That sort of thing used to happen 60 years ago when I was at school, but we mustn't hark back to the old days of course. Bus Back Better? See: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9464/ Martin.

To do all that without inventing the wheel strikes me as pretty dim-witted. The very first thing you are likely to need is a wheelbarrow. Did they at least use log rollers under the stones? Martin.

Well I'm pretty sure it would significantly reduce the total risk. I didn't suggest it would remove all risk. For most of the day the risk is unchanged, but for far fewer pedestrians. It was obviously a daft idea, on operational and financial grounds. You could easily shoot it down in flames on that basis. But to choose RISK as a reason to object to it makes no sense to me at all. You are in effect saying that the railway can't be trusted to run safely, and you would be better off walking across a live railway on foot that sitting in a train at the opposite platform. Martin.

Also within walking distance is a private catholic girls school, Farnborough Hill, with a capacity of 650: https://www.farnborough-hill.org map: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/196961357#map=17/51.30044/-0.74566 Martin.