jimwal

On 26/10/2020 at 22:22, justin said:

Roof details (of E9124E rather than E9123E) Click on photo for link to Flickr

 

The roof covering on this coach looks like bitumen roofing felt, what you may use to cover the garden shed.

There are no long rainstrips nor destination board brackets.

Perhaps it was done on the cheap if the coach was due to be taken out of service soon.

41 minutes ago, keefer said:

@Neil Phillips another roof view for you. Like you, I don't know how much the layout changed over time or between vehicles (if it did) but this one's a bit clearer anyway.

47_Newcastle_1N48_1968-crop by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

 

EDIT: there does seem to be a chance of differences, compare this pic to that of E9124E posted previously

This one looks much more like the original layout.

3 hours ago, Penrhos1920 said:

 

Yes, I’ve always assumed that they went just east of the old Mile End station to the Regent’s Canal.  But the old maps show that yard as a coal yard, not aa sand terminal.

The coal yard must have been out of use by the mid fifties as the Southminster, Marks Tey and possibly other sand traffic went there. The yard was in the form of brick arch drops or staithes. Iron ore hopper wagons surplus from quarries in the midlands and elsewhere were used. 

More six wheelers showing wheel mountings. 

At left is the Stove R, next is the Hornby Dublo version (the colour has faded reducing its collector value).

Next is the Chivers LMS fish van with proper centre wheels. Finally is a Midland 530A brake van from Ratio Bain suburban coach parts.

These show the way I have arranged the centre wheels. Basically a U shape bracket to hold the axle, narrow enough to allow sideplay.

Here are a couple of images of my van.

Among other things the duckets were replaced with slimmer ones. 

The chassis required fairly drastic work.

Narrowing the body is easy enough.

Remove the gangways, cut dead in the centre and stick the two halves back together. Just select a hacksaw blade that gives the right width of cut.

I cannot remember if one blade was wide enough or if two were needed side by side.

The roof profile is correct when done, it will need a couple of filling and sanding sessions to tidy it up. The gangways cover most of the ends, just a bit at the top. 

I will try and get some photos on here.

Jim

On 17/10/2020 at 21:27, adb968008 said:

Anyone know what happened at Ropley on the 1050 departure with 53808..?

Three of us enjoyed the gala for much the same reasons as you did. The 'reserved compartment' a definite plus, the only downside being restricted to the one train rather than the usual hop off and on different trains. As I believe all but two carriages were BR types it mattered less. 

Referring to the incident above, I presume when it stopped suddenly just after departure. We were on that train and were taken by suprise. We learnt later that the signal had been returned to danger before the loco had got past it, hence the abrupt stop.

Maybe the sharp sound of the 7F had the signalman thinking it was going faster than it was, it certainly sounded good on the banks!

32 minutes ago, Buhar said:

Hi John,

 

I take it that the Dapol/Model Rail model is accurate above the solebar to make this improvement worthwhile.

 

Alan

It is the correct length and height but is too wide. The Mainline/Bachmann and Hornby 50' full brakes are correct width. I noticed the difference and checked with drawings which confirmed this.

This would be why John had to widen the fish van floor. 

Built this well before the Bachmann model was announced. The incentive was a preserved one nearby with roller bearings. Certainty not an easy kit! 

Numbers etc and paint details to add.

Have you broken something already?

Had another look as you have mentioned it, its on the 'Bob's kit shop' page on Ebay. I found the just the kit via a search using the photo title. As I have those parts in stock its ok.

6 hours ago, Scalelinkbob said:

Hi Folks,  Nucast Partners NC043 BR/WR 15xx in stock and on Ebay in 2 versions...

Ordered!

Could not see any reference to two versions so just ordered the version shown,

Regards,

Jim

Well done Richard! A big hurdle overcome.

That brass must be softer than Richard and me were believing it would be,

Realised there is more than one thread on the go. I posted this on the other salmon thread and not seen a reply. Any further thoughts please?

Getting there Clive!

As you know two others rebuilt some of those so if you rebuild yours so will it be a B16/4?

Then the variations are unique to that sub-class!

Looking at that last image, you won't need to worry too much if your coaches don't sit nice and even with each other!

Richard,

I spoke to Keith earlier and we discussed this but I had not seen your last post with the fresh images. Can't add a lot to be honest, the drawing appears to be a 'diagram' produced for the operating departments. These were invariably light on detail and as noted elsewhere can have errors. Going on the vents that does appear to be the bow end as you say.

Could it be a diagram was issued for a rebuild? That is to say maybe the gangway was added later. This happened with some Midland brake thirds with no gangway at the brake end. 

Hopefully the weather will let us get together next week. Look forward to seeing progress!

All the best,

Jim.

Keith will expect nothing less!!

Good to see you as well Richard. You answered Keith's requests and more with the railcar and 2-4-0T.

They all looked very good in the flesh and worked fine. Well done!

Bring some works in progress next week.

Keeping the wagons rolling on this otherwise passenger line here we have another tube wagon. It represents an LNER dia199 wagon with no doors.

The Ian Kirk kit of the LMS wagon shown earlier formed the basis with buffers from Lanarkshire Models and springs/axleboxes from Rumney Models.

The brakeshoes are 51L, the levers and vac pipes are ABS (I think!) whilst the brake linkages are mostly Ambis as are the axleguards. 

The axleboxes probably should be the LNER open front type rather than the BR version for the late '50s early '60s. 

A much older model, a 3H LMS design coke hopper. This was built in the seventies as one of six. They suffered from exhibition travels, the plastic has become very brittle.

Clive will remember the long freight trains these featured in we operated on the club layouts at shows.

Now we've got wagons rolling on here Clive will expect to see something from me. A recent build, LMS tube wagon straight out of the Chivers bag.

Good to see these kits coming back.

Just caught up with this on the 'virtual exhibition' link. I noticed that the EP displays ratchet tensioners on the sides. These would be inappropriate for the fifties period. I assume they are part of the casting so wondering if you were looking to do a version without them?

That is a complex looking bogie stretcher Richard! but you've managed to cut another one. The pivot holes in them look nearer 6BA. Whatever size they are they need to be fairly close fitting otherwise your coach may yaw about sideways when in operation.

I've used various sizes of screw, larger sizes work better with plastic floor/underframes. This is so the pivot can be fixed to the underside rather than being just loose, again to improve ride quality.

With your brass build soldering a screw in place with the head inside, fix any spacers underneath to get the ride height correct, add the bogies and a nut on each. Leave the nut loose from the bogie and retain it in place with a drop of glue such as UHU. This allows easy removal of the bogies should the need arise.

You're getting there Richard. Slow progress is better than no progress.

What am I doing you may ask? Relaying bullhead main line track with flat bottom, recycling the bullhead for sidings and adding points to a previously pointless layout.

Parts like those 'V' hangers are common to many rolling stock vehicles. You may have a broken one in another build project or kit.

A good modeller throws nothing away!

I think you may have a way to go with the alphabet . . .