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Very good book on a very interesting line 

£10 plus £3 postage 

Good quality copy of this excellent book. 
£15 plus £3 postage. 

There is of course also this sort of thing just outside Brighton near Seven Dials where the line to Hove comes out of the short tunnel. The mixture of chalk with some greenery could be interesting if a little out of period. 

From Google 

Nestor 

Depends on where you are…

If in London then a nice retaining wall but if down by the coast of Sussex, chalk! Chalk is probably more visually interesting…

Coming into Brighton there is both of course.

16 hours ago, Lacathedrale said:

 

Hello Nestor, what bogies in particular?

1. The First-Second Composite (one in from the right in the YT thumbnail)  and the two brakes are Triang conversions still with the original GWR 8'6" bogies with fat pizza-cutter wheels - to be replaced with 12.4mm Bachmann disc wagon wheels
2. The two all-thirds are Peco/Parkside MR suburbans with AFAIK Gibson wheels, with Wizard Models SR 8' plate bogies. A close-enough match for the Fox(?) bogies of the LBSCR.

Lovely thank you! 
 

That answers my question.

Nestor 

4 hours ago, Lacathedrale said:

Hi @Mikkel - it's a scratchbuilt version of the SER 6-ton van of 1863 - but I made a mistake somewhere in the construction and it's ended up too long and thin. I think I put the sides inside the ends or some such? Either way I can't actually fit running gear under it, so I figure it is a perfect 'grounded van body', being well past its sell-by date in 1912. An earlier picture of the construction is here:

 

Here's another short video for your delectation - threading those screw-link couplings is already terrible so definitely going to be replacing at the end of each rake with something more manageable!

 

DC vs DCC

I am still pondering block-isolated DC vs DCC - though the Terriers are a bit temperamental everything else has worked just fine and I think that's because i've basically only just started cleaning the track.

 

Operational Needs for Control

I have realised through this exploration with the layout that as a primarily-solo operator I have no need for simultaneous arrival and departure - sequential is just fine - so the need for very complex power routing of the throat while in DC mode is superfluous. I'm still hoping for signals and turnouts to be mechanically actuated either via rods or wire-in-tube, it  SHOULD just a case of piggy-backing microswitches onto the levers to retain DC compatibility to turn on and off the blocks - It would mean cutting a few isolating gaps on the throat board (loco spur and old turntable road) - but nothing dramatic.

 

I'm going to do some thinking about the specific implementation - i.e. throat is always live, traverser is made live through selected road's alignment pin - so it's just the arrival/departure signals to a given platform that energise that platform. I need to work through the station pilot and shunt moves in my head before taking this any further I reckon! The major problem is that the lighting pickups on the carriages bridge isolating sections!

Apologies if said elsewhere, what are the origins of those bogie coaches? 
Thanks 

Nestor 

2 hours ago, Lacathedrale said:

Very sad to hear TrainTimes are no longer going to be commissioning LBSC 113 - an E1 in the only actually prototypically accurate freight livery for the Marsh period :( I still have Poitiers on preorder so there is at least that, I guess...

Is this all the E1s or just one variant? 
Nestor 

22 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Speaking of pre-Grouping layouts............

 

A selection I've photographed..........

 

 

 

Kensington Addison Road in O.

 

 

Ambergate in EM (now in P4).

 

 

Blackfriars (under construction in P4).

 

 

Bridgwater in O.

 

 

Buckingham in EM.

 

 

 

Burntisland in P4.

 

 

Calderwood in, I think, EM.

 

 

Copenhagen Fields in 2mm FS (the earlier trains on this depict pre-1923).

 

 

Dewsbury in S7.

 

 

Dollgelley in O.

 

 

Edington Junction in O.

 

 

GWR broad gauge in 7mm.

 

 

Hope Under Dinmore in EM

 

 

London Road in P4.

 

 

Ogden Fold in P4.

 

 

St. George's Hill in O. 

 

Interestingly (with the possible exception of Calderwood - please forgive me if I've forgotten which gauge it's in), none of the examples shown is modelled in 'mainstream' OO or N. I suppose it's because one needs to be a 'modeller' to contemplate making depictions of pre-Grouping times.

 

 

 

 

All smashing layouts as well. Hope Under Dinmore, Buckingham and Burntisland are amongst my personal favourites. 
One that was less well known was built by a late member of the Brighton MRC in 00. I only saw it in the flesh once but due to its size it could be argued that it had to be built to that gauge. 
Built by Doug Hill in 00 based on the LSWR.

5 minutes ago, jamieb said:

Yes,Brighton station had enough going on to pique an interest,but I'm an LBSC modeller too and imagining it over 100 years ago ,looking down from Terminus Rd or the turntable at New England road,there would be no comparison!

I still commute into Brighton and the view of the arches from the Viaduct never fails to impress. I’m very glad it’s managed to maintain so much from its LBSCR days. As have the routes coming from it. 
 

Nestor

2 minutes ago, jamieb said:

Yes,I suppose that is an option for some,but I have to admit,growing up in East Kent and then Brighton, there was never much of interest on the railways, rarely even saw a diesel locomotive,it was all multiple units,so when I got into trains I instantly gravitated to steam 

I too grew up in Brighton in a house backing onto the main Depot. As a child the mere sight of trains was enough, as an enthusiast it is somewhat less interesting beyond the architecture and infrastructure.

Nestor

25 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good morning Nestor,

 

I wonder if there are more pre-Grouping layouts appearing? If so, it's a refreshing change.

 

Certainly, the RTR mainstreamers are introducing pre-Grouping liveries on what they produce, even though no one alive can remember pre-1923 days (unless they're, say, about 110 years old!). Just about all earlier liveries are wonderful and, in the main, very elaborate.

 

Even where vehicles are not accurate (Hattons' and Hornby's four- and six-wheeled carriages, for instance), they can make 'attractive-looking' models. 

 

The above said, if one goes down the pre-Grouping modelling path, then a very large amount of building will be necessary; scratch-building in many cases (exclusively in Geoff Stenner's case!). Thus it appeals to the self-reliant, those who can build and to those who definitely do not want to 'follow the herd'. I applaud them. Long may it continue. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

It inherently makes for more curiosity when no one can remember living the period. The attraction of having to build more oneself also opens the gate for further uniqueness.

It’s telling that (arguably) the most influential of UK layouts is a pre grouping one in Buckingham. 
There is also an argument to be made of far more variety in livery and classes of stock creating potentially a more colourful and varied layout. 
Personally I am just starting a Sussex based project and to avoid any third rail dullness will be going pre group LBSCR. 
Long may the trend continue! 
Nestor

38 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

I've just finished processing the pictures of Geoff Stenner's Scale 7 Oakhurst Town....

 

Modelling of this quality is a joy to photograph. 

 

 

Marvellous to see more pre-grouping in the press. There is a definite unique appeal of the earlier companies that make for (IMO) some of the more interesting layouts around. 

Nestor 

Evening all

First time posting in this thread but have been following the recent discourse on skill interesting. I am 28 and have to have a go at a brass kit although have a strong desire to do so. The relevant subjects at school that would have been helpful were unfortunately woefully taught with little investment or inspiration. This has left me in the situation of having to start from scratch with learning how to solder etc. Conveniently there’s plenty of resource available but it would have been nice to have had a firmer grounding in the relevant skills. I currently look at the work here with both envy and a desire to have a go. The current offering of RTR does not meet my interests which is potentially a blessing in disguise in pushing me to make the jump.

Into the great unknown!

I’m sure there was a point I was trying to make but it’s gone now…

Nestor 

5 minutes ago, Moxy said:

This website is useful for station colour schemes.

 

https://www.stationcolours.info/southern-railway/

Perfect thank you.

and look there’s even a colourised image of the first building at Hove. LBSCR cream it is!

Thanks

Nestor 

Good morning all

I am planning on putting together some buildings based on some LBSCR prototypes and had a question regarding colour schemes. 
The brilliant Italianate stations at London Road (Brighton), Seaford, Portslade etc are currently kept a very bright white with Southern’s green lining. However I am struggling to find how they would have looked in the late 1800s/early 1900s.  Would anybody be able to advise or point me in the direction of books etc where I may be able to find out?

Attached is a photo from London Road from over the weekend for fun.

Nestor

This is some really excellent modelling, guess I better find the Feb BRM!

Nestor 

Congratulations on a marvellous modelling milestone!

Nestor

A few more photos from yesterday. All the layouts were delightful but personal favourites would be Hope-Under-Dinmore and Kensington Addison Road.

Nestor

Smashing modelling as always. Could turn the heating down a tad though… 

Bring on next year!

Hello

I have used it but in a somewhat different manner and not for a long time. 
I shaved it down using normal hair clippers and then spray painted it (lightly) with a can of fairly standard very light green from a local art shop. Once dried I then added texture using scatters. The results were okay but a better result came from the same method using hanging basket liner from B&Q. The shaving was a little harder and much trimming with scissors was needed after but the overall result I found to be more convincing. I am trying to find photos of both for comparison.

Thanks

Nestor

2 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

This is the first time I've posted anything on this fascinating thread.............

 

 

The Down 'Queen of Scots' passes through Little Bytham in the summer of 1958. 

Very evocative, you can really feel a distance in the photo. 

Nestor 

Terribly sad news, his books and articles have been a great inspiration on my modelling. Also on my minor writings as well. His ease of style and sense of enjoyment always fell from the page. A true great in the hobby who will be sorely missed.

RIP

Nestor 

Good to see progress from me. Hope you’re doing well

Nestor

19 hours ago, Jack Benson said:

Is this of interest Click here?

 

StaySafe

Yes!

I have read this a couple of times, very useful 

Nestor

10 minutes ago, Bernard Lamb said:

Nestor, 

I was just reading an article on the local branch line in Saxony that the family used and I note the similarity with your thread title. It was described as die "gute alte Eisenbahn".

I wonder how common this phrase, or similar, is in referring to old railway lines.

Is there a similar phrase in English? I have never come across a "good old railway".

Bernard

Hi Bernard

Thats an interesting coincidence, I used the phrase merely because it sounded good!

Nestor