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19 hours ago, The Ghost of IKB said:

Anyone received a sound fitted loco yet?

Hello @The Ghost of IKB

This one was reported up thread:

A March emgauge70s update.

Maybe a one off though, for sound fitted?

As reported earlier, when I spoke with Phil at York RME, he said that my sound fitted D7599 would be 4 to 6 weeks.

Hopefully I will get the call sometime in June '24. Perhaps in time for my Birthday in July 🤞

I think these RATS should have had a stay alive fitted 😪

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I still have the Single from the original production. Runs perfectly and now has the Hattons Genesis coaches for company.

I understand the sound files were derived from archived footage, however as the decoder will move to an ESU V5, will the re-run have upgraded sound files and speaker?

No reply - looks as though I need to contact the company directly!

I wanted to store the MPV without having to uncouple the two cars. The coupling seems to be rather fragile, and is not only easy to damage but it's easy to get the cam for the coupling misplaced so that the coupling sits too low.

So I have joined a couple of Peco SL-43s together:

One pair of the aluminium sections is cut into two, so that the remaining larger pieces bridge the two base plates.

To stiffen the connections at the 1/2 section aluminium section joins, styrene strips are inserted to bridge them.

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On 27/03/2024 at 00:10, SRman said:

I have two with Accurascale sounds, two with Bif's sounds, one with ESU hi-fi sounds, and one with Jamie Goodman sounds. I believe Jamie Goodman did the Accurascale factory sounds but the one I got separately seems different in subtle ways. I have experimented with speaker setups and am still doing so, but at present, I think the ESU passive speaker seems slightly better than the EM1 style speakers. I found very little difference from removing the sugar cube speakers from two of the locomotives, especially as ESU's updated firmware allows the bass and treble outputs to be tweaked (CVs 196 and 197). I did replace one of the sugar cubes again, but one loco still doesn't have that. I also tried a pair of 4 ohm bass enhanced speakers from Roads and Rails in series in one, but decided the ESU speaker was better.

Of the sounds, all have their strong points. The idle is a little quiet on the Accurascale factory ones, Bif's 37/0 and 37/4 - 37/6 both have great turbo sounds and the thrash is good, the ESU hi-fi has a good balance (with a couple of quirks) and the Jamie Goodman separately supplied sound has great top end thrash and a good booming exhaust - I think this one is my favourite, but there's not that much between them, they are all good.

 

These are my own opinions, and I am aware that sounds are very much down to personal perceptions and opinions, so I don't expect everyone to agree with me. Having tried variations on all of the above suppliers of the sounds, plus the different speaker combinations, I really like having the variety, and wouldn't swap any of them out. I will continue to try different speakers, though.
 

I adjusted the bass and treble on a newly install V5 for an MPV. A big improvement. Can I assume that I would need to update the firmware on Acc 37 decoders if I am to adjust CVs 196 and 197. I do have a Lok programmer so that should be easy enough.

5 minutes ago, johndon said:

 

Thanks, it could have been me!

 

You may already know this but, when I spoke to Phil at York, he is thinking of doing a twin set of Tyne Dock 24s with all the pipes, tanks etc. already fitted.

Perhaps it was! It was on the Saturday afternoon, to the front of the layout in the right hand corner. I mentioned that my Dad was an Area Civil Engineer with BR, and I did no realise how lucky I was to walk the track with him, albeit a strange stride length.

Hopefully Phil will announce something re the Tyne Dock 24s before the year is out?

On 02/04/2024 at 15:53, johndon said:

 

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On 02/04/2024 at 15:53, johndon said:

A couple of short videos of the layout from a very enjoyable weekend at York:

 

 

 

 

 

John

 

A wonderful layout, and an inspiring / lengthy chat with one of the operators when I was there. I should have asked his name!

I would love to replicate the Tyne Dock pair of 24s with my iron ore wagons. Still waiting for SLW to announce a new run of these, but alas it could be a long wait as Phil is struggling with the 25s first.

Dave

This is a relatively straightforward sound installation.

I wanted to try out one of the new ESU speakers in the MPV. This is a smaller version of that used by Cavalex in the Class 56.

It does mean some cutting and carving is needed to the cover on the base of the driven car.

This is the kit used:

The MPV driven car.

Underneath.

The speaker to be used.

Under the cover.

The speaker will just fit if resting up against the white washers as shown below. Any little protrusions from the chassis bed fixing have been clipped off.

And the lugs clipped and filed from the speaker casing.

Below is shown the removal of material from the underside cover. The speaker sits to one side, and so one edge of the cover also has to be removed to allow the fit.

The speaker is shown against the cover.

The speaker was fixed to the chassis with black tack, with the speaker wires threaded through the chassis adjacent to the motor housing. The decoder was fitted and speaker wires soldered.

A view of the fitted speaker.

Ready to test.

The MPV was connected to a Lok Programmer, and the the treble / base values adjusted. This made a huge improvement to the sound which was already excellent with the ESU speaker.

The future? Perhaps fitting floodlights and beacons.

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For information

Just finished a Class 07 sound and stay alive installation. Here is a link:

Now for the cab modification, to enable the Rail Exclusive speaker to be fitted.

The rear plate of the cab was removed. Luckily this was not glued in strongly. This would enable the handbrake column and wheel to be easily levered off with a small screwdriver.

The handbrake wheel is a nice feature, so I wanted to keep some of that. Paul removed all of the column and wheel.

So a cut made to enable the speaker to have enough depth into the cab.

The speaker was glued onto the plate, watching out for the protrusion of the drivers desk.

Then the part column and wheel were added.

And the rear plate glued back in.

Now for the wiring of the decoder. The 6 pin plug was removed, and the two function wires cut off. The hardwiring could be made directly to the decoder, but I opted to do solder joins to shortened wires, and the add heat shrink. If the joins are kept short with matching short lengths of heat shrink, then space under the bonnet is adequate.

Here is the Zimo wiring diagram:

As all wires in the loco (by Heljan), are red and black, they needed to be well organised.

All connected as per the diagram, with of course two reds from the front and rear lights combined, and connected to the blue Common Power +ve.

You will notice that the cab floor plate has been removed and the area covered with Kapton (for insulation re speaker connections).

I found that the cab was just too tight a fit with the floor plate in. Removal gave that extra clearance and a little more space between the speaker and the chassis. I suspect Paul had installed the speaker just a little higher in the cab.

Another danger was the speaker wires coming into contact with the gears. I cut a small piece out of the cab front.

The speaker wires were connected and fixed to one side using black tack.

Finally all re-assembled, taking care about the pipes at the front which have to be positioned frequently as the bonnet is lowered.

Sound is excellent for such a small speaker, with lots of driveability from Digitrains (Paul Chetter), which I need to spend some 'play time' with.

It's been a while since I did sound installations. I purchased the 07 ICI 'Langbaurgh' some time ago. Outside my era, however having started my engineering career at ICI Wilton, this was a must.

This 07 sound installation is a little more involved, as there is insufficient room to fit a sound decoder unless it is hard-wired.

I wanted to fit a stay alive as well, as I have noted the points on another thread about the problem with pick ups.

The Digitrains sound project is very comprehensive, and includes the facility to have lights at both ends (during shunting), as well as directional lighting if that is required.

I am basically following the install done by Paul Chetter in Hornby magazine May 2020, but there are a few differences which will be explained.

This is the kit used:

Cab, front and rear bodies, and cab floor removed.

As can be seen there are slots in the chassis to route wires, but they do not continue where the fixing screws are located for the PC board cradle.

A couple of slots were filed into the cradle as shown below.

The original PC board was removed, and a stay alive fitted into the rear chassis block (fixed with black tack).

Wires were routed into the slots and secured with Kapton. Then the cab floor plate refitted. This was removed later, see further post below.

Next will be the cab modifications to fit the speaker.

Perhaps an April Fools?

Having said that, it is not the first time for such a fragrance.

13 minutes ago, Nigelcliffe said:

 

What resistors were present on the locomotive PCB which has been removed ?   That gives you the answer....    

 

Thanks @Nigelcliffe On the PC board there are only S1G diodes. Then there is the same S1G diodes and a resistor on the blanking plug (which would come out anyway).

I have just had a look under the foam of the LED lighting boards and 'hey presto', the restistors are there so no need to add any.

Sorry, I should have checked this before asking, but appreciate your help.

Dave

I am just getting around to fitting sound to the Heljan 'ICI Langbaurgh' 07.

I have a Zimo decoder (now it is the MS490F) from Digitrains with their sound file. Also a Lais stay alive which has gone into the chassis under the rear body, and the speaker will go on the floor of the cab.

As this has to be hard wired, the existing PC board will come out completely. I notice on the YooChoos desciption they mention adding resistors to protect the LEDs. Does any one know if that will be necessary and if so what (small) resistors should be used.

I am basically following the install done by Paul Chetter in Hornby magazine May 2020, but he does not mention extra resistors for the lighting LEDs.

Dave

On 02/01/2023 at 19:08, Ruston said:

I have fitted two with sound. Zimo MX649 decoder, with Class 07 sound project, from Digitrains. The speaker, a 7x11x15mm, from Youchoos, goes in the small compartment/bonnet behind the cab. A Lais Kung Fu Stay Alive goes in the cab itself, on the floor, and out of sight.

 

 

Hello @Ruston. I am just getting around to fitting sound to the Heljan 'ICI Langbaurgh' 07.

I have a Zimo decoder (now it is the MS490F) from Digitrains with their sound file. Also a Lais stay alive has gone into the chassis under the rear body and the speaker will go on the floor of the cab.

As this has to be hard wired the existing PC board will come out completely. I notice on the YooChoos desciption they mention adding resistors to protect the LEDs. Did you find that was necessary?

I am basically following the install done by Paul Chetter in Hornby magazine May 2020, but he does not mention extra resistors.

Dave

Sorted - please see link:

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