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Les1952 last won the day on January 16 2012

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  1. Looking at the history of HL2709 that I managed to find in ten minutes in two books there is a great deal out there on each loco. I'm now convinced that "No.8" is RSH7807 of 1954. It may be a lighter blue than the Hornby Ryhope Peckett but as they make a nice pair I've ordered a sound fitted No.8 from TMC to go with my Peckett number 2. I suspect that neither is the actual correct shade of blue for no.2 area (where most of the locos I remember were black other than no.31 which was lined green under all the muck), but who cares? Les
  2. This one is at least a 14 inch loco. A number of 14" Hawthorn Leslies had wing plates to the smokebox fronts which this and the model doesn't have. The numbers and lining appear to be in the right place. It looks a much better candidate than HL2798. I also think Thrislington painted its locos in something akin to LMS red, though I may be wrong. I will forgive huge buffers as a lot of short wheelbase 0-4-0STs had them- from experience of a wild cab ride on one at Phladelphia in 1964 I can assure you these short wheelbase locos slogged and bounced...... Les
  3. HL2798 of 1909 was a 12" cylindered loco. This makes it a much smaller beastie than HL3732 of 1928 aka CEGB Newcastle Number 13, which was a 14" cylindered loco. It was built for Pease & Partners Woolley Colliery near Mount Pleasant, Crook, County Durham as number 39 It moved to St Helens Colliery & Coke Ovens, St Helens Auckland (nowadays St Helen Auckland), by 1925, In 1926 it was sent to Rogerley Quarry, Frosterley, Weardale, returning to St Helens Colliery in 1927. Sometime after 1927 it was renumbered 8. In 1933 it was sold to Henry Stobart, Thrislington Colliery & Coke Works, still as number 8. However in September 1935 it was rebuilt by Tees Iron Works. It passed to the Coal Board with the colliery on 1st January 1947 It was sold for scrap to Thomas W Ward Ltd, Middlesbrough in April 1963 and scrapped on site in July 1963. Information from volumes 2 and 3 of the Industrial Railway Society's "The Industrial Railways of County Durham" handbooks. Info on HL3732 from the IRS Northumberland book. Les
  4. Looking at the picture of 517 could part of the reason for it being an apparent late survivor of a discontinued livery be due to it being a small and comparatively insignificant member of the fleet- evidence- the survival of small locos in GWR livery into the late fifties (and beyond?) - these would have a full works overhaul but then have been deemed as not tatty enough for a repaint. evidence- orange and yellow coaches that started off as blood and custard but which were given GWR treatment of a coat or two of varnish where a workshop in one of the other regions may have repainted the coach instead. hypothesis- the loco on receiving a works overhaul and thorough clean was deemed to be good enough to not need the expense of a repaint. As a small loco it might not be back again for quite a few years. Just a thought Les
  5. I have and it is a cure for insomnia.....
  6. There seems to be a lot about "serious railway modellers" at the moment- perhaps it needs a thread of its own. My six (so far) exhibition layouts probably mostly fail some folks tests of "serious model" Furtwangen Ost N(:160)- a fictional tramway added to a "might have been" post history of a Black Forest private branch. Almost all sectional track of two makes (Tomix and Peco Setrack) Hawthorn Dene (UK N)- a colliery that never existed perched beside the Durham Coast line with a few serious liberties taken to get it into the space. NO PLACE (OO) a fictional post-history of a Durham colliery with a preservation group and an almost derelict Coal screen side by side. Croft Spa (UK N)- the only attempt to model an actual location, where I even got the two bridges the right distance apart - this one might pass a lot of purist tests. Bregenbach im Schwarzwald N(:160)- a fictional Black Forest line with very steep gradients (less steep than the prototype) but an exercise in building entirely on Fleischmann sectional track and getting N scale pantographs to run touching the wires. Bregstadt- again a fictional post-history of the line to Furtwangen partly built as a TT (:120) test track but with Peco out front and Hornby pointwork (for now) behind the backscene. Do I think I'm serious- possibly. Each of these is different in scale and concept to its predecessor. Each has been designed to give me challenges, to make me think. A lot will look at them and think that as I'm not sticking to a single theme and going into infinite detail I'm not a serious modeller. I would say that the person just into the hobby building what starts off as an out-of-the-box TT:120 trainset and expanding from there is just as serious a modeller as I am. And that is regardless of the direction they take. And not joining RMWeb doesn't make that person a lesser modeller.... Les
  7. Sorry about the poor focusing- it is so small, even in TT gauge. This is an Arnold Kof aka class 100. This is a Hornby product sold to me through the Hornby website and earning me Hornby points. About half of the size of the 08 it is s better runner, and came factory DCC fitted. .... Les
  8. One thing to add, with a goodly number of manufacturers providing stock for Bregstadt I can say that amongst the very best for quality is.... Arnold. Looking at my Arnold 2-10-0 and comparing it with my Hornby Pacifics I would be very surprised if there were any real design input into the Hornby range from Arnold- the elements that are just done better in Arnold versions are legion. Slow running is fantastic, ability to take the sharp curves I need for a portable layout I don't need a van hire to transport, DCC fitting, etc etc. The tiny Arnold Kof shunter runs better through Hornby pointwork than the 08 does- though admittedly not well enough- and it comes factory fitted with DCC in a loco less than half the size of the 08. The 66 will be interesting, How much of the delay has been spent getting it up to Arnold standards to sell into Europe? If it isn't good enough in the Arnold version it could trash the brand...... Les edit- afterthought- the Kof has also been done by Arnold in N for a good many years.
  9. Sonic were originally a one-man band, so I suspect probably not. They are too near start-up to contemplate a third scale. This is their first loco with any form of outside valve gear. Les
  10. The North Eastern Railway built almost all of its branch lines to Route Availability 9. Pacifics reached Middleton in Teesdale, and at least one reached Catterick Camp on the end of the twig line from Catterick Bridge. On a troop train from Kings Cross this required two reversals. The train would run to Darlington with the engine chimney first. The loco would run round and take the train tender-first back down the ECML as far as Eryholme Junction where it would then take the Richmond branch as far as Catterick Bridge. Here it ran round and took the train up the Catterick camp twig chimney first. Normally the troop trains were hauled by V2s. The best reason I've got for Pacifics not being used more often (particularly A3s) seems to suggest problems with the run round loop at Catterick Camp station, but my research got no furter. On my Croft Spa layout a signature train was an 8 coach express hauled by a tender-first V2. Of course the North Eastern did a lot of things to a much higher standard, and was very progressive- Merry Go Round trains of bogie hopper wagons well before 1910 for instance..... Les
  11. No photo as I was a young teenager on my way back to school for the afternoon, but the only time I saw William Whitelaw on a train it was shunting the coal cells at Grieveson and Whitwell's siding at Faverdale, Darlington. A week later it became the only A4 I photographed in BR service, standing as main line pilot at Darlington shed, facing the wrong way round (ie facing the turntable). I did mention to SK that it would have had to work the train tender first after it had shunted the Chemical and insulating Company about a mile further on at the end of the line. I still didn't persuade him the model needed front couplings. Les
  12. On my TT:120 layout I have motive power by Hornby, Arnold (Hornby), Roco, Kuhn, Piko, Tillig, Kres, Schirmer and MTB. I also have a loco by Beckmann on pre-order. I think that adds up to ten manufacturers, or eight outside the Hornby group. Perhaps you need to include the words UK outline in that statement, though even that could be a temporary state- we'll know better in a year or two... The latest steamer- a bit bigger than a Gresley Pacific, but runs round my R2 curves.... Like the layout, it will be in action at Syston Club's show at Barkby Thorpe this weekend. Les
  13. Very few names appear more than once, and most of the questions (of which there are lots most days) cover very basic stuff. A lot of posts start "I've joined this group because I've just bought...." I would hazard a guess based on the data that I can access that of the twelve thousand about a quarter are members of more than one group and about half are based in Europe rather than the UK. That still gives a fairly respectable estimate of between three and five thousand UK modellers of TT:120 who are in dedicated Facebook groups. I've also found 6 more groups that I'm not a member of and where I can't access the data. These could be smaller, or like one of the groups I do belong to, have 7100 members..... Les
  14. I think that most modellers in TT (TT:120) aren't on RMWeb. I am currently on five different Facebook TT:120 groups, which cover different aspects of the scale. Between them (and I've just been on each in turn and double-checked) they currently have 12,114 members. That is twelve thousand one hundred and fourteen. RMWeb claims 44,000 odd members covering all scales, and I suspect there aren't 12114 who are interested in TT:120. Note also there are just as many Facebook groups on TT:120 that I am not a member of- and as a non-member I can't access their membership totals. Les
  15. I accept that my venture into TT:120 doesn't count as far as most on this thread would seem to be concerned, but I've been building Bregstadt since Hornby first announced TT:120 and have used it to get my skill set acclimatised to a new (for me) scale- having previously built exhibition layouts in OO, N (UK), N(continental), N(US), and HO of which the second Continental N and the most recent OO layouts are still on the circuit. I've also been using it as a test bed for Hornby and Peco stock. So far I've established I can't use Pacifics on a layout that will fit in my car, and that I will probably need another two years before the J94 joins the J50 and I can build my UK outline exhibition train set. Meanwhile Bregstadt is out at Syyston MRC's show next weekend then at Sleaford, Ruddington, and Hinclkey in the coming months. Whitelaw on test (which it failed- it still doesn't like my R2 corners) On the other hand THIS Hornby product sails round them...... Vans in tow are also a Hornby product. Note the train crew- fitted in the cab by the manufacturer as standard. Les
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