Kingmoorkid

A railway that has interested me since I first saw trackbed and bits of infrastructure in the 70's. Nothing much seems to have changed up there since, still plenty of remains to see and bits of the route are walkable, with some footpaths round Tindale now on the old trackbed. I'm guessing that those interested will have seen Ernie Brack's site on Flickr, if not he has an Album on the Brampton Railway with 30+ images. I'll be following progress.

If it's any help Ribblehead on the same morning in low morning light, grey tones and brick orange, not much obvious brown unless others see it differently.

I've been lurking for a bit but had this snap from February before we all got locked away. Not a view of Arten Gill you see very often, from path to Whernside from Dentdale, but it shows how well it sits in the surroundings. Colour is not that obvious from a couple of miles away, but the viaducts in Dentdale are certainly more dark grey than brown, however the colour does seem to change with the light. Anyway experimenting to get a happy medium is all part of the fun. Simon.

Alex not sure how far you've got with planning, but this is an end view with a rare special arriving at the quarry in March this year. It gives some idea of track plan at North end. I have a few more shots of Cracoe which I'll load in next couple of days.

Catching up on the Dent thread, and not sure you got the answer on these pictures, picture 2 IS the south end of Kingmoor Shed, the others are of the Fuel and Inspection shed (F&I to us locals) that was at the south end of Kingmoor Marshalling Yard and about a mile north of Kingmoor shed. This was the main stabling point for the Yard and in early 70's would host up to 50+ locos, that were normally left idling, in the sidings adjacent to the shed and immediately to the West. I recall an old Fowler tender being used near the fuelling point in the early 70's. You would nearly always see classes 08, 24,25,26,27,37,40,45,46,47,50, and after 1974 also 81,82,83,84,85,86. Class 20's were not regular visitors but not unusual, unlike Brush 2 5634 that pitched up on a Saturday afternoon in 1973 to the amazement of the regulars.

Carlisle No.12 box. Absolutely spot on.

Looks fantastic - I reckon the stream is Cow Gill Beck, which is just the sort of descriptive name you would expect in the high fell country. There has been a huge amount of forestry clearance in the Rise Hill area recently, which has opened up the previously conifer blighted landscape so it's more like the period you are modelling. Might have a trip up in next couple of weeks. Simon

The rather austere 1950's lines of the London Midland Type 15 signal box has always appealed to me, but I wanted something different to Bachmann's offering of Hest Bank. This is a model of the smaller 20 lever version, based on 2 x 10ft front panels and the shallow 11' depth. I've tried to capture a well used box that's a bit rough round the edges, well that's my excuse anyway, Built round a perspex box with microstrip glazing and plasticard sheet from my spares box. Rudimentary interior is included, with Smith's etched levers the only purchased item. It needs a signalman, and a suitable layout based around the Preston Division in the mid 70's. Kingmoorkid

Thanks Jeff Looking forward to the signal box build in near future - I suspect you won't be happy using a kit when you can do a bit of scratch building. Simon

Jeff, its about time I got off the lurking shelf with this KL2 thread, which I have followed closely since day 1, but have made no contribution - rude of me I think. As I've enjoyed the trials and tribulations of both KL1 and KL2 I'd just like to say thanks for keeping us all updated and providing inspiration. I've been up to Kirkby Stephen a couple of times this year and it's an eye opener looking at some of the prototype detail you and are incorporating into KL2. Here's one moment that I was there to capture. Now can we talk about that backscene! Cheers Kingmoorkid (Simon)

Much missed? I got two of these etches last year from Cooper Craft for £5 each. Bargain. Put my modified Lima bodies onto old mainline chassis/bogies with appropriate buffers and rebuilt battery boxes. Worked for me.

I don't bother with many shows but glad I did Pontefract on Sunday, some excellent layouts with Crinan up among the best on display in my opinion. Excellent scenery, well detailed rolling stock from my favourite era, and plenty going on. Thanks

Great reading this again, the David Hey web site is a mine of information and has some real gems, I have spent a few happy hours browsing (time well spent if you ask me), I have just noticed that Ilkley Shed closed on the day I was born, a mere 57 and a bit years ago, 26 of which I've lived in Ilkley. There is some sort of test train due into the station tonight around 1:00am followed by a scheduled leaf buster with a couple of class 20s at around 3:00am, I'm tempted to visit but good sense might prevail! Simon

Ron Simon - Kingmoorkid tells you where I spent my many hours in my teenage years. Some pictures taken before Northern Rail employees informed me that I wasn't allowed to take pictures of stations - just not worth the argument! The rudimentary dimensions that I did manage to get are - height to bottom of rail 3 feet 4inches. From middle of uprights to middle of next upright 6inches - you can scale from picture on that basis. I didn't want to get my tape measure confiscated..... The good news is that said Northern Rail employee was happy to discuss what happened and what's happening. The car hit the fence with such force that a 12" bit of it finished between that tracks luckily no one injured. Part of the fence has been removed for repairing and it will be restored, with other cracks in the same run attended to on return . They thought about recreating a new casting but cost was circa £10k so have decided to repair instead, Simon

I I'll pop out and measure and photograph the fences tomorrow. Might get some strange looks from M&S shoppers!

The railings were indeed reused and run about half way down the Car park/Platform. Yesterday someone managed to lose control of their car whilst parking and demolished about 12 feet of railings - we shall whether it is repaired to maintain the splendid Victorian style or simply bodged..... Kingmoorkid

Tom I can recommend page 55 of FW Smith and Martin Barstow's book on the Ilkley and Otley Joint railway which was published by Martin Barstow in 1992, This has a photograph by J Davenport of the shed in June 1953 with good detail of the mortar courses and construction. I'm aware of copyright on this but having given this the acknowledgments I have, I'm attaching a copy of part of this photograph as it is good reference and quite revealing: KIngmoorkid

The brick/stone issue should be resolved by the following picture This type of stonework is fairly typical in the town for buildings built at the same time as the shed. The stones are very consistently sized in height, similar to a typical brick. Builders can still source these and a number of modern extensions to older properties have been built using them. This is the back wall of Mortens btw which was next to the route of Skipton line. Kingmoorkid

I haven't been on line much recently, but can confirm the wall at Skipton end of station has a curve in northern wall as described with last four arches after the underpass turning gently, I guess deflection is about 4 or 5 feet. Has the Rails in the Dales Flickr site been viewed - well worth a browse. https://www.flickr.com/groups/railsinthedales/pool/page1 Plenty of Ilkley pictures from 60/70's and some internal views of the Shed. Kingmoorkid

I'll take a few photos tomorrow - the wall doesn't exist much further than shown in above photo its now an opening to a loading bay for M&S and a retail shop currently being converted to yet another restaurant - there must now at least 20 eating establishments in the town already. We seem to have hijacked the original thread but all adds to the general theme I think. KK

Dead straight I reckon.... Pointing West.

Old computer comes to the rescue.... This is the view along Railway Road from point east of Coal Drops/footbridge showing curve in wall that follows the curve in the road. At the end it kicks slightly out. This is a view from effectively the end of platform 4 over the Coal drops. Lovely patna - a weathering challenge for you. This is the point where main wall ends at the coal drops. I'll sort some more pictures out of 'town' end showing buildings and more detail. Regards KK

Kiwirail, I went out this AM with camera - once I work out how to resize in Win 10 Photo editor I'll post. LMS29 is spot on with his description, the wall at the station is dead straight to the coal drops, which are set back from Railway Road, then it carries on on same line to a point just after the footbridge then it curves gently from a point opposite Golden Butts Rd towards the site of the old signal box but then kicks out slightly following curve of road. The buildings on Brook Street are pretty much as they were with a couple of additions where new premises have been built where the original bridge abutments used to stand, its still possible to see old adverts painted on one of the building ends. Think I'll have to revert to Win8 for resizing, I'm either daft or Microsoft seem to have eliminated the most useful feature in photo Editor with their latest 'upgrade'!

I'm live in Ilkley Kiwirail - think the wall is dead straight but I'll go scouting with my camera tomorrow and post results. Might get some odd looks taking some snaps in Marks and Sparks though! Anything else you want photoing?

70805 made its debut on the logs today, took me by surprise and made a nice change from the Class 60 haulage that's been running since April, Colas have indulged us on these workings over the past few years with 47s, 56s, 60s, 66s and now 70s (and a few double and triple headers as an extra bonus).