Hunslet 102

I have a Heljan class 27 that has no couplings at either end. Looking for a coupling type that would be compatible with a standard Bachmann mk2 coach coupling?

Thanks Darius, I remember when they brought those tickets out in place of the tokens. Many a one on our school bus got more use from a ticket than they should have!

7 hours ago, Darius43 said:

Love the Citibus collection!!!
 

Cheers

 

Darius

Thanks Darius, Belfast Corporation double deckers, many of which suffered badly with highjacking and burning during the height of the troubles.

12 hours ago, Legend said:

Just caught up with this Hunslet 102, after your queries on Glasgow Queen St . Very nice . I like your dmu 

 

 

Thanks for your comments Legend.

The dmu (railcar) is an MED (multi engined diesel) . These units were synonymous with the Bangor line until their withdrawal in 1978.

Thanks for your great response Legend!

Like you, I also like a bargain and value for money, maybe 30+ years living in Scotland has helped!

So many options to choose from, but definitely no mixing.

Bachmann coaches would be a luxury, but canny purchasing could result in some good bargains.

I have Lima coaches repainted into NIR livery which are smooth runners, so I think they would be my option for the bulk of the fleet.

The Hornby 101 dmu seems to be the one to go for, thanks.

Do you have a layout thread on here displaying your blue/grey models?

Thanks GordonC. The layout will be dc controlled and lighting in coaches would not be a priority.

Primarily, it will be Mk1 and Mk2 coaches that would have been in regular use at Queen Street from 1970ish to 1975ish.

Earlier in the thread Legend said an Aberdeen service could be covered with earlier Hornby Mk1 stock and him and JeremyC gave the type of Mk2 stock required for the Edinburgh service.

I have had to re wheel some old stock in the past as the wheels were wobbly, although Lima stock has generally always performed well.

Never thought about the colour matching, but yes that would be a major consideration!

Thanks again for the information supplied everyone, I can see what you mean about the price of Bachmann items Legend, their coaches seem very expensive! Is there a reason for this. Are they a much better coach, more realistic and authentic looking than similar coaches by say Hornby, Lima, Mainline or even Triang. 
Certainly, by re wheeling the older models, it would still be a cheaper option, especially for the amount of coaches required. Thoughts again greatly appreciated!

Thank you Type 2, certainly a different alternative! I do enjoy a bit of remodelling, as I have had to do to create railcars (dmu’s) for my Irish layout!

Thanks again for your thoughts GordonC and thanks for your detailed response Legend, very helpful. I will keep an eye out for a Hornby 3 car unit 

25 minutes ago, GordonC said:

 

Hornby do or have done a 3 car Class 101 at times. No lighting like you'd normally expect in models now, but its one of the better ex-Lima toolings I'd say. If you're looking for one also search for Lima, for older releases of the same tooling. I think the Hornby ones have a more modern power-bogie but externally the same.

 

The Bachmann Class 101s have through-wiring to only require a single decoder per 2 car unit. No sign of Bachmann doing a 3-car Class 101 yet.

Thanks GordonC, clarifying the Bachmann unit is a great help. I will have a look for Lima/Hornby sets as a possible alternative.

Hi all

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the previous advice. Modelling question this time, 00 scale.

The 101 dmu is the type I intend to model. A 3 car set appears to be the mainstay from the period. 
I have an old non working Triang 3 car set, but am I right in saying it is under scale?

A better running Bachmann would be more desirable, but they just seem to do 2 car sets. Are the coaches in these sets linked mechanically that it would be a bit of a task adding a centre coach? or if not, do Bachmann do a centre coach to make these units 3 car sets?

Any help greatly appreciated.

9 minutes ago, 45125 said:

The 37s were irregular performers on the service. They worked with both 27s and 25s on the service.

Thank you 

Thanks for the info 45125. Would the 37s from Haymarket have worked regularly or irregularly on the service and would they have worked with other class types as someone suggested earlier in the thread?

Thanks Strathyre, very interesting with the bonnet first scenario, which must have been a restriction to the class all over. Thanks for sharing 

Thank you Gwiwer for your detailed reply and observations and also the class 20 confirmation GordonC 

Wonderful information and details once again from everyone.

 Thanks Stovepipe and Matt for your detailed replies and I will check out timetable world, which I had never heard of before.

Thanks ColinK for your details on the locomotives, although as a modeller I do like the 3 foot rule!

Jeremy C and Legend, your input to the thread has been invaluable, many thanks for the time and effort that you have spent on supplying the information.

GordonC , thanks for the link to the old thread, I will check it out. It would appear that old pre nationalisation buffet coaches were still in use, with probably only post nationalisation Mk1s and Mk2s .
 

1 hour ago, Hal Nail said:

Not sure what you mean by this?

Hi Hal, I was not sure if any older coaches were still in use around this time from the original big 4, and if they were, which companies coaches would have been more prevalent. I should have put other than the new British Rail Mk1 stock, sorry for the confusion, hope that makes sense and thanks for highlighting 

Once again many thanks JeremyC, most informative and helpful and thanks also for the article link, much appreciated 

Many thanks again to all who contributed to the thread, much information was gleaned re the locomotives and dmu’s , with a period span from ‘72ish to ‘76ish, with a bit of modellers licence!

As a follow on, I was looking to establish the regular Mk1 and Mk2 coaching stock which would be most common around this time. Would Mk1 stock be more LMS type or LNER type or a mixture of both etc. Would Mk2 stock be more A,B or C or a mixture of all and the parcel traffic, would it have been 4 or 6 wheel vans or bogie vans.

Again, any help or recollections of information would be greatly appreciated.

17 minutes ago, GordonC said:

Just a suggestion, but I'd wonder if your topic might get more responses in the 'Prototype Questions' section rather than 'Modelling Questions' ... I know you're asking for modelling purposes, but it does relate to a prototype location

Thanks GordonC. As you say, my query was from a modelling perspective and I didn’t really think of the other section. I have been really pleased with the information that members have provided on this thread to date, if I feel I need more information I can repost on the prototype thread. Many thanks 

17 minutes ago, darrel said:

Remember the parcels depot was still open. Not sure if there would have been a class 08 for shunting. Before my time. 

Thanks Darrel. Consensus seems to be that an 08 would not have been needed. 

1 hour ago, Jeremy C said:

Oban had a long-running but rather intermittent summer DMU working from Queen Street, aimed it would seem at day-trippers. A trial in 1958 used Buchanan Street and the Callander line with class 120s. Class 120s were then used in 1960 on "Land Cruises", which included trips to both Oban and Fort William (from Queen Street via Helensburgh and dividing at Crianlarich). In 1962, Oban got a regular summer class 120 working from Queen Street via Helensburgh, which continued each summer until 1970.

 

In 1975, the summer DMU service from Queen Street to Oban was revived with the prototype refurbished class 101, numbers 51451, 59545 and 51518. The service does not appear to have continued in future years.

 

Then in 1985, a connecting service was put on between Oban and Crianlarich to meet with certain West Highland trains, and this was provided using the Mexican Bean class 104, 53434 + 53424. The set used to work to and from Glasgow once a week on the back of a service train. This service was revived in summer 1986 and summer 1987. Eastfield got other 104 sets in the mid-1980s as the 107s were withdrawn, and these worked in and out of Queen Street till 1989. All rather late for this thread, though.

 

All the above information is from the wonderfully informative railcar.co.uk site. However, there are other pictures of DMUs at Oban that I can find no mention of in railcar.co.uk, including this one from September 1973 by Peter James. It's a 3-car class 101, quite possibly 50254+59568+50264 which the same person photographed at Dalmally the same day:

The loco is a class 27, and I recommend looking at this person's other pictures (click on the image to follow the link to Flikr) from the same time as they provide a useful record of train formations, including a 4-wheel Southern U van (CCT in BR parlance), still in (very dirty) green paint on a West Highland service at Rannoch.

 

Once again many thanks for the great information Jeremy C and also for the link to that chap’s photos, which will be a great resource reference 

Thank you for your input and information Nimbus

Thank you for attaching the old thread Morello, a great recollection of information. I can imagine some fun was had at times between drivers!

Thanks for sharing your information Legend, much appreciated.

The wealth of information shared on the thread has been amazing and been a great insight and help for my future plans