bazjones1711

Update on the layout

Link to great photo of 37225 at Tinsley with a rake of BBA fitted with six cradles loaded with imported semi finished stainless coil

https://flic.kr/p/2iLmBkm

For those interested in the forthcoming Cavalex cradle fitted BBA wagon here is some information on them ( Although these were not coded BWA as far as i'm aware , BWA was for the same wagons converted in 1995 with five ex BZA cradles )

BBA wagon pool 4225 Various to various stainless slab / coil .

Total 33

910003 , 006 , 112 , 170 , 179 , 216 , 223 , 234 , 235 , 258 , 264 , 269 , 275 , 292 , 307 , 413 , 420 , 421 , 422 , 423 , 424 , 425 , 426 , 427 , 440 , 441 , 447 , 450 , 461 , 465 , 469 , 484 , 489 .

These 33 wagons were fitted with 6 traverse cradles for carrying stainless slab cast from Tinsley Park steelworks to the East coast ports like Grimsby for an onward sea journey to Germany for rolling , only to be brought back on the same wagons now as coil to Tinsley and Panteg , slab also ran from Tinsley to Lackenby and Port Talbot to be rolled into coil , but as these plants dealt with normal steel , the process of rolling stainless was not best suited to these two plants , hence a switch to European plants . These wagons ran with BDA , BMA with slab and SPA , BAA , BDW  etc with imported coil either as semi finished coil to Tinsley and Panteg or as wrapped finished steel to the likes of Wolverhampton , Brierley Hill etc..

Liveries of these were black with railfreight logo and red cradles or original bauxite brown with brown cradles ,

Addition information on BWA wagons :

The 13 BWA were : 910223 , 234 , 264 , 269 , 307 , 413 , 421 , 422 , 426 , 440 , 450 , 484 , 489 . these were fitted with 5 BZA type cradles and no ends , having come from the pool of 33 BBA in Pool 4225 , again all without ends that worked from Tinsley with slab and coil .

Cambrian BBA wagon with Stenson Models etched cradles ( BZA type )

15 hours ago, faa77 said:

Alex/Cav, slight oddity with the packaging. For some reason the plastic which "seats" the right bogey is a different depth to the left side. It's slightly shallower and forces the bogey upwards, to sit at a bit of an awkward angle. It's minor but should be easy to fix.

 

Lovely model though!!!!!! 

 

Given how similar they are to the BBA, could you please produce these 13x BWA which Baz mentioned a few years ago:

 

These are the slab /coil BBA without ends , first appeared in the early 1980's , there were 33 wagons in the pool

BBA wagon pool 4225 Various to various stainless slab / coil .

Total 33

910003 , 006 , 112 , 170 , 179 , 216 , 223 , 234 , 235 , 258 , 264 , 269 , 275 , 292 , 307 , 413 , 420 , 421 , 422 , 423 , 424 , 425 , 426 , 427 , 440 , 441 , 447 , 450 , 461 , 465 , 469 , 484 , 489 .

These 33 wagons were fitted with 6 traverse cradles for carrying stainless slab cast from Tinsley Park steelworks to the East coast ports like Grimsby for an onward sea journey to Germany for rolling , only to be brought back on the same wagons now as coil to Tinsley and Panteg , slab also ran from Tinsley to Lackenby and Port Talbot to be rolled into coil , but as these plants dealt with normal steel , the process of rolling stainless was not best suited to these two plants , hence a switch to European plants . These wagons ran with BDA , BMA with slab and SPA , BAA , BDW  with imported coil either as semi finished coil to Tinsley and Panteg or as wrapped finished steel to the likes of Wolverhampton , Brierley Hill etc..

Liveries of these were black with railfreight logo and red cradles or original bauxite brown with brown cradles .

We will be there with our 00 gauge layout Tees Yard , it will be be its first outing 

On 09/11/2021 at 19:18, Alcanman said:

Looks good  and a great subject for a layout.

 

I built a OO version of Tees Yard WRD a few years ago in a spce of 9ft x 15ins.

We have taken insperation from your posts about Tees Yard and associated replies , still got loads to do mind you , will post some progress 

We have started a layout based on the wagon repair depot at Tees yard along with the fueling point , the scenic part of the layout is 7 ft long split over two boards , 4 ft for the wagon depot and 3 ft for the fuel.point , we will have a 4 ft fiddle yard hidden by the road bridge that crosses the yard . Here are a few photos of the progress so far , will post updates 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/jsa

Driver Training at Tinsley Pool 6453
Wagon Type HSA
360019 , 0122 , 0139 , 0179 , 0215 , 0228 , 0236 , 0312 , 0371 , 0391 , 0527 , 0537 ,
360595 , 0707 , 0731 , 0816 , 0826 , 0913 , 0929 , 0959 , 0994 , 1199 , 1311 , 1545 ,
361583 , 1592 , 1634 , 1750 , 1864 , 1963 .
Total 30
These were used for training drivers on the then new class 60

Looking good , what diameter is the barrel .. i may have some plastic tube off fax machine rolls which is about 30mm , if you ever require some .

Jarrow yard

Delightful !

On 09/02/2021 at 22:53, bazjones1711 said:

Taken from the Dapol forum in 2017 !

Quote.

We are just refining the first EP so should have some new images to show in the next month or so. Decorations are about to start, so I would say (if pushed) release for the end of the year.

Hello ,

           I have a four axle nuts that look like photos i have found on google search of them  ,  i presume they could be are either Romford or Markits , but not really sure  , i was given them within a job lot of motors , wheels etc...  , if you can PM me your address i can send them to you free of charge and hopefully they are what you require .

Regards Barrie

Many years ago we started a layout based on the coil unloading sidings that were at the end of Tinsley yard and can be viewed from the M1 motorway  , we started the layout but built it on a single baseboard , which was far too big and bulky , so a mark 2 version was started about a year or so ago . Progress has been slow to non existent for a while now , but the idea and planning will all come together one day . The layout is 8ft long on two 4ft boards with just one line which uses Peco code 75 bullhead track and will feature a working overhead crane to unload the imported semi finished stainless coils . Having gathered a vast amout of information over the years , i'm always looking for any additional info on this location , be it workings , locos , wagons etc .

I am looking to find out if VTG KIA ferrywagons  ( as per Dapol model ) ever went here to be loaded with export coil ,as i've seen photos of the mid to late 1980's of them in the yard at Tinsley .

Regards Baz

Click on link photo

Just buy Poundland Matt black , bigger tin @ 250 mm iirc , all for a £1.00 !

A few of the Impressionist Models from a while ago , i did the weathering on the VTG  JXA and POA wagon and put the transfers on the mighty Sheerness Steel JXA , all great models , moto ... if its not available then make it yourself !

As most of the steel wagons are now available in 00 gauge , the BVA cassette wagons that work from the SMACC plant at Tinsley would be a good choice  ,these wagons when built in around 1999 / 2000 carried stainless slab from Tinsley to Immingham and the cassettes were exchanged for one's bringing semi finished coil back to Tinsley , there is also a flow of slab to Seaforth  although I don't know if coil was ever returned from there . The traffic is now only slab and bloom to Immingham and Seaforth , with some trains having two  20ft containers on the cassette to carry imported chrome ore back  to the SMACC plant . These wagons ran with class 60 and 66 and were usually in rakes comprising of most of the fleet with spares left at Tinsley for loading , 

Link to the wagons 

https://andrewwills.smugmug.com/Wagons/B-Coded/

Brand new  Alcan PCA working through Cardiff , probably on the Radyr trip working 

1 hour ago, hmrspaul said:

What the H..l is that? Please explain the Facebook link. 

 

This is the correct link https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/e3e24d6c

 

Paul

 

 

 

I have corrected the link , so I do apologise , I have used links only to your wagons photographs on my Modelling Railfreight Metals Facebook group for members to click and follow , no photographs  have been published or copied onto the group , I inadvertently copied the link from the Facebook group onto this  RM Web page ,  I apologise for any upset I may have caused . I have included a screenshot of the links I post for wagon posts on the group .

Regards Barrie