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Class 37284 at Newport in the late1980's BVW bogie  coil followed by SFW and SGW coil wagons , possibly a Swindon to Margam working  M . Russell photo 

Just need to do the BNX bogies coil wagon and BVW bogie coil wagons ( not sure of their pre decimal codes )  , the  covered ones worked with  coil A and coil B from South Wales , the BNX and BVW  moved North and the covers were removed  working out of Grimsby to Sheffield with imported stainless steel coil . These lasted in to the early 1990's 

technique for replicating concrete , this is card dabbed randomly with various match pot grey and white  emulsion paints with a sponge , building up the layers gradually , i find it easier by not putting too much paint on at a time and starting with a base layer of one colour then letting it dry slightly before adding various tones, the joints are highlighted with black powder paints ( or weathering powders)

When i was at collage many years ago doing engineering one thing that i learnt and has stayed with me all these years later is something called accumulative error  , where by any errors made at one place are compounded elsewhere , something we see in many models , for example on the Heljan class 47 the bodyside windows line up with the cab side windows when in reality the side window is slightly higher up , problem now arises if you move the bodyside windows up around 1mm or so they become to near the cantrail grilles thus making the error stand out even more , so you need to look where the starting point is for the error before trying to move positions of the various details , my opinion is the the bodyside is slightly to high which is putting things out of proportion . Also years ago there was a one off model magazine about the various aspects of modelling , painting , soldering etc... IIRC there was a piece in there saying if we are to scratchbuild models the we need to make then within a tolerance of about + / - 20 thou ( 0.50 mm ) as if your 40 thou out ( 1.00mm ) things become out of square and look as though they are leaning etc..

As an example ; 4mm = 1 ft 

 1mm ( 40 thou )  equates to 3 inches

0.50mm (20 thou ) equates to 1 1/2 inches

So even these small errors of 1mm or so can make a big difference in the overall look of any model by any manufacturer as i have said in various posts in the past  , if on your first impression of any model there seems to be something quite not right  whether this be the wrong shade of paint and so on then it is  possibly is wrong .

But ultimately we all have a choice as to whether we purchase any models with or without errors .

30 minutes ago, class37418stag said:

Hello 

thank you for respond 

so any kind of scrap metal carry from PTA wagon of orange and grey ?

 

 

The scrap would mainly have been in the ex British Steel JUA / JTA in blue / orange livery  with all the logos painted out , see link to picture  not sure where they all worked from but some did work from Beeston to Cardiff in scrap traffic .

Possibly in their early days the repainted grey VTG versions were in scrap traffic .

I have in OO  used an old plastic wagon wheel with a small round magnet attached to it , the magnet was off a mobile phone cover ! You could do something simular in N gauge 

Already been mentioned but I'll guess  a HTV  coal wagon as I have in the past  .... Or a ASW POA scrap wagon and  using the same chassis to become a Railease  POA   stone wagon that ran from Dove Holes initially ,   both of  these wagons being built on former ICI PEA Tipair wagons which is another model option ......

I think most of the Railmatch paints for the railfreight colours were of a satin finish , apart from the obvious that are marked as matt or gloss ! I have jars which are ancient and are still usable . I usually warm up any paint by putting the tin or jar on the radiator for a while and mix of thoroughly , over mixing does no harm ! If drying in a cold room , it  may affect the drying time and finish of the paint also . A coat of satin varnish may make it  look better , but varnishes do not like the cold and can dry to a white , ruining your model , so beware ... My advice a warm room or wait for the spring or summer !

Whilst reading some old Rail Express magazines from September 2016 there are some pics of the Dapol class 59 test shots , so I think to myself , I've not seen these advertised , I must have missed something here , so a quick look on Hattons .... Surprise they are not even made and are due  in Q2 2021 ! Over four years in production !  Any wonder the likes  of Accurascale are doing well , oh and they once promised a BBA wagon ...bet they wished they had now , although they would not have made  any money because it would still be work  in progress , shocking just glad they don't fix cars !

Maybe a version for the next run of BSSW  PTA  wagons , the  British Steel blue / orange livery but without the TOPS panel on them , this being how they first appeared when repainted , another version is these same wagons in their original livery that worked with three class 37,  then  went to two class 56 in the 1980's .  There is also the BSTE series that worked to Consett in rakes of 10 iirc , so more scope for these models 

Just now, brushman47544 said:

My immediate reaction is that the curve on the roof grills at cantrail height is still too sharp. Really stands out and needs to be fixed or I’ll be sticking with my Bachmann models.

When first looking at any model if something stands out as not being correct then it to my mind is wrong , the curve of the roof being  one point , there  a few other errors for  which i will let others make their own minds up if they are wrong , just compare the picture of the model against a similar pose of the real thing ...

There may be a way around the colour of the wagons being either too light or of yellow hue,  is to weather an example . The weathering could be done with a filter wash from the likes of AK Interactive etc...this should have the effect of darkening  the colour , followed by in traffic weathering , this being easier than a full repaint . I made a Sheerness Steel JXA , firstly I sprayed it with rust tones  followed by AK Interactive chipping fluid , then put a light blue top coat on that was close to the correct colour , unfortunately the darker first coat had the effect of making the light blue now look to dark ! Rather than a full repaint I went around all the vertical ribs with dark weathering powders ,   this to me has the effect of now making the blue look lighter than it is , a kind of optical illusion , adding subtle light rust as well has given the wagon the look I wanted to achieve , hope this may help you Lyneux 

There's always this route !

Our pack C has 910059 , 910325 and 910374 none have Railfreight logos , would have liked just one wagon with it on , i have some transfers so not a problem really , but something the buyer should not have to do when they were advertised as such , also we had them on pre order but had no email or contact from Rails   , so cancelled the pre order and ordered straight off Rails and were delivered in 3 days .

5 hours ago, class37418stag said:

Scrap ferrous metal for melting at steelworkers?

I would assume so , probably off cuts of tube made at Corby , there was a flow of scrap from BSC Ravenscraig to Aldwarke when Ravenscraig closed that  used HSA ( ex HEA ) , SJA and SPA wagons to carry slag  , note the SPA with what looks like lumps of slag from the slag ladles that has not been broken up , if you search Flickr for ' Ravenscraig scrap ' you will find more pics of this train

A bit early for you , but in the late 1980's there were quite regular stone trains from iirc Stoke Gifford to Machen quarry with ARC PGA  and a few ex bulk salt PGA  mixed in , I have a photo somewhere , will see if I can find it for you , as said above about the Tilcon trains , I remember seeing the Tilcon PGA wagons through Newport , poss with a pair of class 37 upfront . The other PGA I saw through Newport were a rake of  the ECC PGA that worked from Croft quarry , I think they went to Marcroft at Swansea for repairs. The Redland self discharge train used to work to Cardiff Tidal sidings but don't know where it went from there , not sure if the ordinary Redland PGA ever came to Wales mind you...

13 hours ago, class37418stag said:

Hello 

in 1980 between 1993

baled scrap to BSC shotton?

 

any cheap bit of scrap metals to anywhere by BSC in Wales or Scotland or England ?

 

scrap ferrous to BSC ?

 

i has brought

baled scrap carry OCA wagon

and 

scrap ferrous metal carry HSA or SSA wagon

 

will buy MEA wagon use baled or ferrous or bit rusty metal 

 

thank you

 

 

MEA ran from Corby to Aldwarke with scrap , these were the EWS ones , only seen one picture of this train