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Some consolitary reading is required, I feel

There wasn't that much mineral traffic  after WW1 and by the 1950s, traffic through Distington was pretty sparse as west Cumberland was becoming post-industrial even back then.

Really off the beaten track options might include Titley Junction (Herefordshire) and Distington (Cumberland), both of which were pretty compact and eminently suitable for modelling.

On 01/01/2023 at 00:28, Mark Hamlin said:

Hi guys

 

I have mislaid my instruction sheet for these and have 4 to build. Couldn’t find them as a download on the Slatwrs website (all the others appear to be there😀). Could anyone assist please?

PM me - I might have an old one knocking about.

9 hours ago, New Haven Neil said:

 

Maybe a little later for me, I was given a pile of Railway Modellers from the 60's when I was about 12, which had for instance, Buckingham, Charford and Portreath in them  that was it!  Then over the next few years I bought RM and MR, discovered Iain Rice et al, and came across Ian Futers at shows as he was local to me then.  Whenever I look back at these layouts I experience an incredible wave of nostalgia, I enjoy reading about them just as much as my current modelling activities. Hence this thread....

Exactly the same thing happened to me at pretty the same time.

These look excellent and to say I'm interested is a bit of an understatement - any thoughts of an M&CR 2-4-0  or 0-4-2 to head up a train of these coaches ? 

My plan until quite recently was to model the entirety of the Maryport & Carlisle in EM as it was it in 1976. By that date, the track layouts at Maryport, Aspatria, Wigton and Dalston had been severely rationalised with a couple of sidings at each one. In fact, the whole line looked like a CJF track plan and would have been interesting to work given both the then still substantial through freight traffic

and the very small yards at each station. I had plans to run it as both 1970s BR and pre-WW1 M&CR and I have the stock for both. Alas, the building allocated to it is to be demolished to make way for an extension to our house.

On 19/12/2022 at 22:25, Citadel said:

 @Portchullin Tatty 

 

 

On the right there is a Maryport & Carlisle D11 27' 4 1/2" underframe - the next project.....  @SteamAle 

This looks a lot better than the DIY lash ups under my M&CR coaches.

On 04/12/2022 at 22:57, Citadel said:

 

 

Do fancy some M&CR 6-wheelers next...

I suppose I could find room for a third rake...

My partner actually went to buy me an etched brass coach kit from a well known 7mm manufacturer and he managed to work out that I needed disc wheels rather the earlier spoked ones, seemingly from their conversation about our recent holiday to Seahouses.

Missing pages 

Just now, WFPettigrew said:

 

Literally mid sentence and no reference to the FR locos either?! Sub-editing error perhaps?

Sorry, my mistake - there are two middle pages that describe the baseboard, track, electrics, etc but as these aren't particularly relevant to pre-grouping modelling (and there are no photos of M&CR engines !), I omitted them.

33 minutes ago, WFPettigrew said:

I would be interested to see the rest of the article. 

 

 

 

 

 It does  end rather abruptly, hence why I expected a part II appear back in 1982. Re. FR roof door and open top cattle wagons, I've built examples of both and they're  pretty straightforward given a good selection of Evergreen strip.

25 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Am I right in thinking that Ross Pochin's models are now in the care of the CRA?

Yes - both his and the related collection of models built by Bill Shillcock.

The stock list and constructional details for "Harringham"

All modelling at a halt as the stepdaughter has been using the modelling room as a home office this week and then there's the usual round of Crimbo socialising.  Therefore, I thought I'd post this article from MRC March 1982 with a request. "Harringham" was the first time I ever saw models of the M&CR [I was familiar with Ross Pochin's Furness models] and I always awaited a follow up that never appeared. I never saw the layout at an exhibition but I did see the locomotives, albeit looking  a bit worse for wear, when they were  displayed in Tully House Museum in Carlisle in the late 1980s. Does anyone know what happened to them after this ?

We saw them play in Coventry cathedral ruins a few years ago and it was one of the best gigs I've ever been to - Terry Hall RIP

My favoured combination was Mainly Trains hooks (now available from Wizard Models) and EMGS links. For screw couplings, a reasonable compromise is MT hooks with PC links & screws (PC hooks are unworkably small in my experience).

4 hours ago, Willie Whizz said:

I seem to recall that some decades ago (!!) there was a OO layout plan in Railway Modeller that attempted to give a representation of the IoW System as a whole, or at least most’ of it. Tight radii and short platforms, but it did from memory look, on the plan, rather like an Underground-style map of the real thing. 

IIRC it was by Stanley C Jenkins and was featured in RM c.1977-78.

Going back to Mike Sharman's 19th century models and layouts, didn't he once say that he wasn't interested in modelling any engine that had a cab ?!

Are you still looking for this ? If so, PM me as I have a set of wheels, gears and rods going spare.

In case anyone hasn't already read it, A.J.Smithers 'A New Excalibur- The development of the tank 1909-1939' is an excellent overview, covering the technical, military and political issues and controversies involved.

18 hours ago, Edwardian said:

What a great selection of pictures. Thanks. I comment as follows:

 

 

Great illustration of loading.  Must be a Mark I 'cos of the trailing wheels, quickly abandoned in the field. Also, note that the sponson has been removed, and will have to be transported separately, because it was not until the mark IV that the sponsons could be retracted for rail transport. 

 

 

 

Guessing Mark IVs. Certainly in France, probably in the Cambrai build-up. 

 

GWR Macaw strengthened for tank traffic, fitted with side chains for Continental use and sold to the WD.

 

 

 

Captured by the German army, which greatly prized them!

 

 

 

Somewhere in England. The wagon is not fitted for Continental running, as there are no side chains. The Naval chap is interesting. I seem to recall that it was an Admiralty committee that headed tank development and I think tanks went for assessment to a RN establishment. 

 

 

I mixture of French and British designs, here I think transported rearwards to a repair depot in 1918.

 

 

 

Need to look into this and torpedo boats. Calais, I know, saw some French torpedo boats, but whether this was during hostilities, I'm not sure:

 

 

 

Calais also housed a submarine base during the war. French submarines. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is delving into modelling history, but I recall that the  first picture of the loading of a tank was the subject of a rather good  1/76 scale diorama featured in either 'Airfix Magazine' or the shortlived 'Model World' that was published by Almark. Given my recollection of the latter, it would be c.1972-3 - told you it was going back a bit !

Railway of the Month, Railway  Modeller June 1976

The website of the  Cumbrian Railways Association is the best place to start [the link is in my signature below].Almost all of the published books on the railways of West Cumberland and the Furness region are focused on the 1960s or, to a lesser extent, on the pre-grouping period. That said, the CRA journal often covers the grouping era and there is a lot of information on the website. In addition, there is a  very active on-line discussion forum  [aka "the electronic telegraph"] that seems to be able to come with the answer to just about any question to do with the railways of Cumbria.