3rd Rail Exile

1 hour ago, St Enodoc said:

If the poll were about more than just locos I'd pick the 4-SUBs though.

I did look at some EMUs, but couldn't find anything other than the 4-DD that had Bulleid's name directly linked to it...

Very difficult to decide on this poll - I'm another who is a great fan of the Bulleid Pacifics, both original and modified, but as we're asked for the most successful design I have to concur with those who have nominated the Q1.  Phenomenally successful design. 

7 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

 

Did the UK go through the 'pop top' can stage between the original ring pull and the new one?

 

If not then you were lucky. Two small raised dimples - a larger one for drinking and a small one to equalise the pressure - were on opposite sides of the tops of cans. The idea  was you pushed the dimples into the can using brute force. The shortfall in this idea was that any carbonated drink can that had been even slightly shaken had too much internal pressure to enable you to push the dimple in - you had to resort to hitting the dimple  with various things like a screwdriver and hammer  if you wanted a drink.

I came across them "professionally", but they weren't particularly prevalent in the UK...

22 hours ago, Ruffnut Thorston said:

It would take some time....some years....

 

But eventually the tin plated lining on the steel can will possibly leach into and taint the contents.

 

Tinny tasting beans, etc...

 

This is why acid based foodstuffs, such as Tomatoes, and Pineapple, etc, tend to have a plastic liner over the tin plated steel....also Sweetcorn can have this liner...

 

On another front, tins with ring pull lids have the lid part way cut through, to allow the lid to tear away when pulling on said ring pull...

 

These tins therefore have a built in weakness, and would possibly not be as robust as traditional tins, so should be considered for first use.

 

Virtually everything in a tin has been cooked, and probably quite safe to eat straight out of the tin...I do not take any responsibility for anything bad that could possibly happen though!

 

Exceptions include Fray Bentos type Pies, in the flat tins...

The pastry is not fully cooked, although the filling usually is.

 

Do remember to remove the lid from these tinned pies before putting in an oven to complete the cooking!

 

Also, these tinned pies are NOT suitable as issued for microwave cooking!

 

(A Survivors Guide to Tinned Food?’)

"Tinny tasting beans" actually taste of iron, not tin!  A lot of work has been done on this by some of the major packaging companies and their customers - tin has quite a high threshold of taste...

Some acid-based foodstuffs will have a liner, some won't (and some will work both with and without) - it depends on the exact chemistry of the contents.  Again, a lot of testing goes on to ensure a foodstuff that, once cooked, is safe, wholesome and nutritious... 

3 hours ago, kevinlms said:

Regarding the part cut through ring pulls, it has struck me how accurate that process has to be to work. 

Too deep and air leakage will ruin the food, potentially causing food poisoning, or not enough and you won't get it open. 

5 minutes ago, melmerby said:

It's amazing they allow it as IMHO it's dangerous, leaving a knife sharp edge around the can.

Most rotary can openers tend to cut downwards, therefore not exposing such a sharp edge.

Also if the ring pull comes off (fairly often), the shape of the can top doesn't allow easy opening with a conventional opener.

Yes, there is a lot of precision engineering that goes into manufacturing these full aperture easy open ends (to give the ring pull food can lid its correct name), and also into many other aspects of manufacturing, filling and processing (aka cooking with the product inside) of metal food packaging.  I could give you chapter and verse on it, having worked in the industry for nearly 30 years (until retiring 18 months ago), but rest assured that all the factors you mention are given appropriate consideration.  

I'm not sure I'd 100% agree with "most rotary can openers tend to cut downwards" - comprehensive surveys of can openers have actually been done, and the edge left by opening a "ring pull end" is no sharper than that produced by many can openers.  Some cut through the side wall of the can, leaving a very sharp edge at the top of the can...   

The ring pull coming off is a known failure mode (with appropriate specifications - a lot of testing is done), but the majority of occurrences are actually caused by incorrect opening technique (yes, there is a proper way to do it - it's printed on some cans, but by no means all).  

I know I've already voted for it in a previous poll, but I still think that the LSWR M7 was Dugald Drummond's most successful design...

20 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

I'd take Sam more seriously if he just got himself a baseboard! He clearly doesn't take any notice of the makers' instruction leaflets as they all tell you not to run their products on the carpet. 

 

I've also watched a few of Sam's videos - he does make some useful points, but it is extremely difficult to look beyond the carpet-laid track.  He has tried to explain the reasons for this, but it doesn't convey an aura of expertise/competence or persuade me to "buy into" what he says.   I tend to watch them for light entertainment rather than as a source of information/review.  

And as for whether "digs" or other criticisms aimed in his direction are "called for", surely they're an occupational hazard of putting your material out on public display on YouTube...  I actually found the reference to "carpet crawler" quite amusing and effective... 

Anyway, to get back on topic, my model of 35024 arrived a few days ago (having been pre-ordered when it was first announced) and has been running in.  I'll confess to having defective colour vision, which can actually be a blessing when I read some of the more heated discussions (disputes) - however accurate (or not) the colour of the model is, I know I'm not seeing it correctly, so have to resort to my imagination!  I'm very happy with the model - the front lamp/bracket issue is unfortunate, especially when it appears not to be an issue on the earlier-released model of 35028, but is my only minor nit-pick (and methods for mitigation have been suggested by @Graham_Muz amongst others). 

Another vote for the S15 here...

28 minutes ago, TerryBewdley said:

Is there a delivery date yet for these little beauties?

 

First post in this thread says Q4 2021...

Tricky choice this one - T9s and Black Motors have already been mentioned by others, but I'll throw my hat into the ring on behalf of the M7...

A number of worthy classes here, particularly the Cs and Ps as already mentioned, and the various 4-4-0 express classes. 

But after much thought I'm going to go for the H class.  

Most successful and suited to its intended purpose would have to be the Schools Class, so another vote in that direction from me!

A late 20th Century closure (by which time the area had been subsumed by Greater London), I don't think that the Elmers End - Sanderstead link was ever used to its full potential.  Whilst the subsequent use of part of the line in the Croydon Tramlink  scheme are useful for ferrying people in and out of Croydon, the link provided a useful diversionary route, especially when linked further south with the Uckfield - Lewes suggestion from @St Enodoc. 

23 minutes ago, NIK said:

Hi,

 

Everybody who was driving when I got my AZ jab was told to wait in their car for 15 minutes after their jab before driving off.

 

The NHS had made a temporary car park big enough to allow for this.

 

Regards

 

Nick

Same for me...

23 hours ago, 3rd Rail Exile said:

Another potential trunk freight route from Southampton to the Midlands, I'll vote for the Didcot Newbury & Southampton...

 

...I'll vote for the Berkshire (and Oxfordshire, if we're being post-1974 modern with our counties) section later if Gilbert runs that poll...    

26 minutes ago, great northern said:

Today, Oxon Berks Bucks Herts. Succinct, that is.

As promised, a vote for the northern section of the Didcot, Newbury & Southampton...  

If you've pre-ordered through Rails, you may need to actively "accept" the price - when I logged in to Rails' website last night to look at my orders I was confronted by a window insisting I either "Accept new Price" or "Cancel this Pre-order", and couldn't find a way round it... 

Confusingly, said window stated that the price had increased by £229.99 - from the -£30 currently listed on my account (as I'd paid the deposit) to £199.99.  It might be correct in accountancy terms, but "increased by £229.99" could be (mis)interpreted that I need to pay a further £229.99...  

I've "Accepted", and await the models with patient anticipation!

Another potential trunk freight route from Southampton to the Midlands, I'll vote for the Didcot Newbury & Southampton

Whilst the redevelopment at Reading has eased congestion caused by/to North-South traffic, avoiding the Reading area totally would surely be an advantage...

Given the specific county limitations of the poll I guess I'm actually voting for the line north from Shawford Junction as far as a point somewhere between Highclere and Woodhay, where it leaves Hampshire and enters Berkshire - I'll vote for the Berkshire (and Oxfordshire, if we're being post-1974 modern with our counties) section later if Gilbert runs that poll...    

I too have the previous Winston Churchill funeral hearse model, in the pack Hornby issued a few years ago also containing 34051 and a couple of Pullman coaches.   That hasn't stopped me ordering the new model as it looks like it will be a vast improvement. 

The old one can either stay sat in the polystyrene packing or undergo some future fettling and repainting project, depending on whether I decide to keep the original pack together in "as bought" condition or not (as @Dunsignalling has just said whilst I was typing this...).   The rest of the pack does get used on "non-funeral" duties...

Whilst some parts of the Oxford-Cambridge route are currently open (in various states of disrepair), its loss as a through route was certainly a mistake - definitely worthy of a vote!

8 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said:

Well I too have just had an email from H announcing a “coming soon” MN. But the colour’s wrong.It’s for 35017.

Is the green a bit blueish, or the blue a bit greenish? Or is that for another topic once they arrive? 

Either way, I should be getting both 35017 and 35024, once they've been to Cornwall and back...

17 minutes ago, great northern said:

Sorry, not allowing the whole London extension. There are other candidates, both in Notts and Lincs.

OK, so it's an abstention from me on the grounds of lack of local knowledge.  

Another area I don't know that well, but everyone seems to say that the GC was a glaringly stupid error (or rather, closing it was...  )

7 minutes ago, Hobby said:

Had a chat with the nurse this morning when my wife got here B12 injection. Seems the possibility of a "reaction" to the Pfizer jab is more likely than the Oxford, hence at the centre I went to (Oxford jab) they allowed people to go and wait the 15 minutes in the car however when we went to get J's Pfizer jab we had to wait in the centre and they were very strict. According to her that's why but I don't know if anyone else has had the same?

Same here - had the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and was just told to sit in the car for 15 minutes before starting the engine. 

Whole process was very simple - no sign of any letter from the NHS but a text message from my GP surgery last Wednesday (I'm one of the 55-60 with underlying conditions) inviting me to book an appointment.  Booked in for the Friday, turned up at the local Civic Hall 10 minutes before the appointed time, name checked at door, straight in, name and DoB checked again, quick question about allergic reactions, chose which arm, jabbed, handed a leaflet and small "record" card and out to the car.  All within 10 minutes, followed by the 15 minute wait!  No noticeable "reaction" to the jab.  

Will be contacted again in due course for Jab 2, which I'm sure will be just as efficient... 

41 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

Unless I'm out of the loop - surely that's 18000 ?!?

 

John Isherwood.

Must be - Silver Fox already do 18100, so Rails don't need to  

5 minutes ago, XChris said:

 

Something like the Bachmann 90, would have been nice. I haven't heard too many complaints about that or maybe the detail pack will allow us to choose between a hole for the coupling or the bit we can see in the designs like the Dapol 68's have.

2 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

I expect they could do something similar to what Dapol did with the 68 and Hattons did with the 66 where two different valances come with the loco/DVT and the user fits which one they want.

Yeah, those sorts of things would probably work.  I didn't express myself very well, but that's what I actually had in mind when I wrote:

16 minutes ago, 3rd Rail Exile said:

...designing an appropriate blanking plate to clip into the NEM pocket if a coupling isn't required (assuming that the coupling geometry doesn't require the pocket to protrude in front of the valence at all). 

Looking at the design of the front valence, would it have to be a whole replacement piece? - it looks quite a large chunk of bodywork (buffer beam and everything below it).