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    Revised Mk3s?

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    Posted

    • One of the main issues with the Mk3s is that they are a mish-mash of details from LHCS and HST trailers. For example, they are fitted with buffers or slots for them, but only the LHCS stock has buffers.
    • The roof ventilators are correct for HSTs and Mk3b LHCS, but wrong for MK3a
    • Underframe and end detailing also varies on the real Mk3s, but Hornby just use a small number of generic designs.
    • Then there are issues of the different origins of the tooling, meaning that the TGS doesn't match the rest of the HST set as it's an ex-Lima tooling.
    • The interiors are also a poor representation of modern Mk3s particularly.
    • The tension-lock couplings used are crap and lead to gaps which are far too big - some sort of close-coupling mechanism is needed.

     

     

    • The buffet car - Hornby has only one moulding from their original Top Link range which is based on a TRFB in the 407xx series - incorrect for Virgin liveried HSTs.
    • The odd Ex Lima Buffet car - which seems to be a mix of Loco Hauled RFM and HST Mk3.
    • CDL Lights are moulded onto all of the ex Top link range Mk3s but not the ex Lima - so for a BR Blue Grey set you get an odd appearance.
    • And as you point out, there's the differences between Mk3 HST & Mk3 A, couplings and chunky window frames.

     

    • nem close couplings would bring big improvements alone
    • disc brake inserts
    • window stickers for 1st class and no smoking
    • better window framing and
    • flusher glaxing non prism effect
    • dcc lighting
    • central lock and non central lock versions
    • appropriately finished interiors

     

    Many thank you's for your replies. This has interested me alot as I had been wondering the specifics as to a non-mk3 expert the Hornby 1999 tooling looks fine. (minus the coupling and glazing).

     

    I now fully understand the massive benefits a re-tooled Mk3 would bring to allowing for correct formations, especially between LHCS and HST.

     

    In summary it would seem the Mk3 tooling would benefit from:

     

    • Correct roof ventulation
    • Underframe differences between types - I honestly thought the 1999 tooling looked good, until after reading comments above I looked on Flickr and did see differences.
    • Lima/Hornby tooling differences to be corrected - TGS chunky windows and RFM Buffet Oddity - I agree here, the non-1999 toolings do look rather dated and at least need to be tooled to the same standard as the 1999 versions.
    • Interiors - modern seating and stickers (curtains?)
    • Coupling
    • Disc Brakes on wheels
    • Better flushed glazing

     

    I certainly see how a re-tool could be welcome now and not upset modellers who already own a number of Mk3s and which not to replace them all. As the re-tool sounds as it would not greatly change the over all appearance of the coach, but would add subtle detailing. This might be in marked difference to the Mk2D tooling which looks old and crude, I have sold on any of my Mk2Ds in expectation of varstly improved Mk2E/Fs.

     

    I suspect Hornby shall not be doing a re-tool on the Mk3 (based on other blogs and topics), perhaps another manafacturer shall see the market potential (Dapol seem to have a nice range of N-scale Mk3s). Though I suspect Hornby could include a few of the improvements into its current 1999 toolings; notably; close coupling, disc brakes and interiors. I shall see what Hornby have to stay to my email.

     

    Very interesting and thank you for your inputs.

    Dapol's new Class 68 locomotives

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    Posted

    Perhaps a little unfair to leap to conclusions without knowing the facts?  Have you considered that there is equally a chance that Dapol may simply be waiting on DRS to provide some vital information/data with regard to the development of the model? 

     

    While it is understandable that this model may well be a high priority for Dapol, it may well not hold as much urgency for DRS, who I would imagine are far more busy managing their own real-life operations.  It's also perhaps unfair to compare with Bachmann's Class 70, as after all that was in conjunction with a completely different organization, ie. Freightliner, who for all we know may well be more "on the ball" than perhaps DRS when it comes to model trains.  Of course, none of this may actually be the case, but in short what I'm stating is that situations aren't always necessarily what they at first appear.

     

    I could not agree with you more.

     

    No doubt over the coming months we shall have links to/previews of the CAD and EP examples.

    Revised Mk3s?

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    Posted

    Lazerglaze looks great but I can't really justify spending hundreds upgrading all my mk3 rakes. I'm assuming if Hornby did release the glazing as a spare it would be significantly cheaper than Lazerglaze. Plus I reckon if I splah out on Lazerglaze a super detailed version will be announced shortly after (sod's law etc).

     

    A fair point! But they do look rather good on my FGW and Wrexham Mk3s.

     

    I have noticed a lot of "internet talk" of the Mk3s needing new tooling. I understand that the current coaches were tooled in 1999. They do not look bad to me to be honest, even the original glazing is fine. The bogies seem fairly well detailed, especially when the springs are painted red or yellow. Yes the TGS has extruding window frames, but otherwise I do fail to see what significant improvements could be made (well part from the coupling).  Could someone enlighten me on what they would want from a re-tool of the Mk3?

     

    The current Mk3 seem to stand up to the super detailed Class 43/HST, Class 67 and no doubt the upcoming Class 90. I personally do not want a re-tool, as I would then have to sell all mine, and buy the new ones. But if the serious flaws are pointed out and the benefits of a re-tool are proven. I best start saving up!

    Revised Mk3s?

    in Hornby

    Posted

    Hornby's initial scale length (Top-Link) MK3s came with thick flush glazing leaving an annoying rectangular halo appearance inside each window. This was fixed on later releases.

    attachicon.gifHornby Virign Toplink Mk3.jpg

     

    I don't want to replace all my Virgin Top-Link coaches with the later ones since AFAIK only the early Top-Link ones have the correct silver window surrounds for the HST (Virgin's loco hauled coaches don't have silver surrounds).

    Hopefully Hornby will produce the tinted glazing as a spare so I can finally upgrade my fleet. The new glazing looks so much better!

     

    Might I ask why you don't look into Laserglaze Mk3 tinted windows? Having bought all ages of the Mk3 coach, you never get the whole glazing row off, leaving lumps of internal plastic, thus difficult to re-apply. Shawplan's Laserglaze range is an excellent Mk3 window replacement.

    Class 143 First Great Western

    in Realtrack

    Posted

    Samples of the First Great Western Class 143 arrived yesterday, these are for checking and approval.

     

    Now the good news:  The graduated colour on the body shell is spot on! this complicated livery is now cracked.  All we need now is to print on the body shell, the look on my face!  'Lusty Glaze'

     

    ITS GETTING NEARER!!!!!

     

    Charlie

     

    As the saying goes "pics or it didn't happen" ;)

    Dapol's new Class 68 locomotives

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    Posted · Edited by 159220

    The page linked above has not been updated since 3rd June. I have found an update from 19th July on the Dapol's Facebook page where Dapol quotes that the project is underway and news shall be posted shortly on Facebook and their website. I hope this means drawings/CAD. Dapol also says on FB they are sincerely hoping for a 2015 release. Link (under posts to page): https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dapol-Ltd

     

    Bachmann annonced the Class 70 on the 27th November 2009, and delivered the Limited Edition 70001 during early December 2010. I would suspect from reading the press statement that Bachmann had been working on the Class 70 before this announcement. http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/pr1.php?id=246

    New OO gauge Class 73

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    Posted

    Excuse the silly question, but I've been utterly confused as to what liveries they are being released in. Does anyone know what liveries exactly are going to be produced?

     

    Well Dapol today have confirmed 4D-006-007 replacement...73206 Lisa! 

     

    http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information/news&news_id=91#.U81eARZeL4I

     

    Shall go well with the Limited Edition from Olivia Trains 73205 Jeanette. Olivia's Trains are also producing a Gatwick Express and First Group GBRf: http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/

     

    There is also the Pullman limited editions with Gaugemaster: http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=dagm1%20brand~~579~~brand&style=&andor=&method=&strType=&OB=p_a&currentpage=1

    New OO gauge Class 73

    in Dapol

    Posted

    The Network Rail Class 73 was to be a Model Rail limited edition (not Kernow MRC, although Kernow handles the Model Rail fulfilment). It was not properly logged at Dapol as being a limited edition for us and, as a result, was included in their revised standard range. Model Rail dropped out at that point.

    CHRIS LEIGH

    WOW! Was this to be 73138 in NR livery? I know Kernow has 73212 in NR livery cancelled, but I really wanted 73138 in truth. But I cannot see 73138 being announced by Dapol in this years catalogue? :S

    Dapol's new Class 68 locomotives

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    Posted

    Good to see the Class 68 confirmed in the catalogue. Dapol very friendly said the 68 shall be out in 2015. No RRP prices in the price sheet which was on the stand at Alexandra Palace. 

     

    Also great to see that the IDA SuperLow 45 wagons shall be just the wagons and not with containers. I don't know about others, but I prefer to buy my containers separately, so good news. 

    New OO gauge Class 73

    in Dapol

    Posted

    Had a chat with a very pleasant chap at the Dapol stand today. I was disappointed to see that 73205 "Jeanette" in GBRf livery is now in the main catalogue!

     

    73205 is a limited edition with Olivia Trains in Sheffield. The friendly unnamed Dapol employee was not aware of this limited edition - Slightly alarming! Yet I have been assured that they shall contact Olivia Trains on Monday to rectify. If honest, I rather have 73205 from the main product line as it shall be on par with other 73s to pre-order at around 20% off rrp. 

     

    I got the impression why they didn't answer earlier emails about liveries, is because they didn't know. Luckily they do now and I shall follow up with an email. I was impressed they were friendly as a positive. 

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    New OO gauge Class 73

    in Dapol

    Posted

    Does anyone has a definative list of all limited edition 73s announced? I have asked Dapol via email several times without a reply. I want to make sure I have not missed one, especially as the Kernow Network Rail one was cancelled?

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