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I wonder what chassis could be used. The wheelbase is shorter than an 8F, and is actually close to that of a 9F with one wheel removed - as a 2-10-0 version also proposed? From a modelling pont of view in OO, adapting an old Hornby tender driven loco chassis with 8F cylinders/valve gear might be possible. A bogie tender drive might be more tricky. Could the cylinders on the 9F be moved down a bit(or replaced), as rest of motion is similar.

I have been getting Voie Libre since 2000, and just had a look through those issues for ideas, and found that those first issues I got had drawings for stations on the Correze lines. The drawings show what I tend to think of as more traditional French designs. I have also just finished my designs for the A80D1 railcars which ran from mid 50s. On comparing the photos and the drawing in book, I have done main radiator as per photos . Not sure why drawing shows it sticking out more, but maybe it was further modified after it left the line. Luckily I had the Autorail de France book with nice drawing showing original condition for the A80D1.

It might be safer if they just fitted a European plug and an adapter. This is what I have seen with some train produced for European market but sold here. Computer equipment quite often has a Euro plug, encased in a British style casing, with fuse. I think that there was at one time a belief that ring main systems were the way forward, but it is only here in Britain that they are used. French/Euro wiring can look more complex, but in some ways it is simpler. I find the way the Euro 3 pin plugs are designed more worrying, but it is hopefully not as dangerous as it looks. At least we use same voltage as Europe, unlike in USA, which means it isn't just a simple replacement of a plug that is required for some gear.

someone did asjk me a while back if I was planning a 3D printed model. It is something I am still considering, I do have a scale drawing somewhere.

1946 would be an interesting year to model, as featured in classic film 'La Bataille de Rail'. The range of stock still around then is immence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_the_Rails

I assume the G probably came from LGB, and as you said stands for the German word Gross. It gets far more confusing when you realise G gauge and G scale are different, but share some things and are used by marketing people to sell into the garden railway market. G gauge is he track gauge, so as long as it runs on that gauge it sems OK to some to use that term. G scale is more complex, and shoyld be one scale, not many as some use it. I think 1/22.5 was the original scale, which I think is same as Gauge 3 or 4. As 1/24 is pretty close it seems to be used more often.

I have plenty of info on narrow gauge including book by C Cenac. I think the bogie Crochat at Versailles is probably the narrow gauge version. That one I think has visited many events for WW1 commemoration. The small standard gauge ones would hav been useful for industrial use after the war, but the big ones, assuming they survived, might have been too big. Just found that one of the big locos still exists in Austria https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcrochat.fr%2Fdocs%2Fhistorique.pdf&psig=AOvVaw2jq2tv053UZXX_Fv2xiRfo&ust=1605009678960000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCJiuvYu39ewCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAP more recently http://www.tvnp.fr/?p=6814

I have found my drawings for French standard gauge Crochat locos. There was also a big bogie version. I found a drawing for that as well, luckily one I found when I was doing original reseach for WW1 project. https://rail.lu/crochat.html I think there would be more interest in WW1 era French standard gauge. A lot of info about the narrow gauge but little about standard gauge. As much of this military stock survived for many years, it could interest modellers of more recent railways. Some of the Crochat locos ended up in Czechoslovakia, and one preserved there I think.There is also one at Mulhouse museum. Not sure if any of the big bogie ones still exist.

thanks, Ihave finished the 3 wagons I was working on http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/3d_printed_sg-trains3-wagons-fr.htm I have found a lot of drawings online, most will take a bit of work to interpret as they are not that clear, so no rush. I also found a drawing for a British built wagon, possibly the one in photo. It states that certain parts were left off for transport, but again he drawing is not that clear. I have seen a drawing for something similar to those in second photo, but marked to carry cars. Possile only different at ends. For final years of WW1 the American built bogie wagons should not be forgotten. I think some are preserved as I have seen photos of some with a standard gauge conversion of a Baldwin I/C loco. Must not forget standard gauge locos . I have somewhere drawings for the standard gauge version of Crochat i/c loco. It was a simple 2 axle one not bogied like the narrow gauge one.

the book I was interested in was the one about the railways of Herault. Not sure actually how useful it would be, as there is quite a bit already online, and my main interest would be drawings of locos and coaches as only ones online only show side views. Odd thing is there is no mention of this DVD book collection in their latest catalogue which I only received a couple of weeks ago with the copy of book on CF de La Mure(another book difficult to get and think it is a second print run) . From a publisher's point of view I wonderif they have considered how many people would buy a copy then copy it for others. Always a problem with digital.

was searching for something on google.fr, and found that CABRI had issued a DVD with some , I presume out of print, books on it. https://www.laboutiqueducabri.fr/en/bibliotheque-numerique-ch-de-fer-de-lherault-ind-chaix-est-maijuin-1951-mata-burros-trains-oublies-est-al-trains-du-montdore-xml-2343-8401.html I wonder if they are planning to produce any more. It does say number 1. Very tempted

after a suggestion on another thread to use google.fr to find more French items, I found this http://roland.arzul.pagesperso-orange.fr/materiel/wagons/couverts.htm hopefully should be able to read enough of the measurements to do soe more designs.

might have to look around for more WW1 era French wagons, as suspect there would be interest from those modelling OO9 .

1/76 is on option list. actually offering 10 different scales, some railway ones some military modelling ones. can add more. just working on the version with brake cabin, then the older shorter version of the van.

interesting, certainly shows how far these wagons travelled. I wonder if anyone does thes wagons in any other scale. For anyone wanting them for WW1 themed layouts I suspect they are more likely to model in 1/76 not 1/87, although there are now some military models in 1/87 scale.

started on van design.Because of its width it look lower , but I am sure that is an optical illusion

Finished final railcars for Colonel Stephens railways, the Shefflex ones for Selsey and KESR. As always available in minimum of 6 scales from N up to G1. Others can be added on request http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/passenger-stock-lt/3d_printed_WCPR_Small_Railcar.htm

Grdon does say he used EM gauge for practical reasons, and does say that for some reason going narrower for metre gauge acually looks OK, possibly better. My argument for using 16.5mm for 1/55 scale metre gauge. I initially thought about going 1/64 scale, but loco body I had designed would not fit chassis I was planning to use, and then I discovered that 28mm wargaming was near to same scale and far far far more accessies than S scale had so it was a no brainer for me -r2r track, r2r loco chassis, and wargamming and diecast(eg Siku) acccessories. Before 14mm got more interest some would use 12mm gauge to represent 2ft gauge in O scale. 16.5mm gauge is too wide and always looks wrong to me, which is why I used 1/35th scale for my WW1 models.

I tend to jump around from region to region, railway to railway, partly so I don't get bored. Just working on something else, but hopefully next project will be the wagons.

I don't do many wagons, but these could be useful, mainly because they are pre WW1, so would be used for WW1 modelling. They are not a complex design and chassis is easier than some(no hand brake)

I have a copy of the recently published book about the railways of Gironde, and there are a couple of drawings of wagons with these non curved roof profiles. I think the design was used elsewhere, certainly looks similar to the ones at Beziers. I think some wagons still exist on the preserved line. Described as 'wagon couvert serie K'. one has brake cabin,but main design looks same as without brake cabin. The other drawing is of a slightly earlier version which is also slightly shorter. I am now very tempted to do a 3D print design There is also a drawing for a much longer wagon, with curved roof, which I think dates from 1920s, the others dating from 1880-1899.

Spurred on by the thread about the 2WIM EMU, I had a look at one of my older designs, for the SR 2SL EMU. Abit basic as it was it could be updated and this is what I have done, and added a basic chassis(quite distinctive on the real EMU) . Also added N, O and G1 scale versions. http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/passenger-stock-sr/3d_printed_2sl.htm it is possibly a bit more basic than the 2WIM model, but I design my models to be one piece bodies, and prefer not to add some detail if I am not certain about it. Roof detail, in particular.

Locos make a change, and I like variety. Just completed designs for all the locos that ran on Selsey Tramway.

just got hold of a copy of the book. Must be a 2nd(or more) print rerun, as I had not seen it on sale for a whlst(apart from over inflated priced second hand copies). Very impressive book. Plenty of new models to design. Had not realised the ex Camargue wagons were around for so long as I thought they were not as good as hoped due to earlier damage/corrosion caused by salt transporting.

I would imagine the type of rail depended on whether most of the line was inset or normal track. Nothing about the rail used in the book about this line, but in the book about the lies centred on Castres, which had quite a bit of inset track in the street sections, there is a drawing of traditional tramway type rail(Broca?) and I think it actually says it was not used. The photos of the track in Castres do look more like traditional railway track rail,and I think using a mixture would have meant that no wheel type could have ben compatible with both types of rail. I thought the narrowness of the railcars was due to maximum permitted stock on track running next to roads . Interestingly the Castres railcars are the wider version, so street running was obviously not an issue. I will have to start on those designs for the narrow version of the railcar, and possibly the locos, coaches and wagons. Main reason I did not do the narrow version of the railcar was that the roof profile caused be a few computer problems, and it was not just a simple edit to create the narrow version.