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Excellent modelling Tom, Just discovered this thread following your helpful comment on lamp irons etc ... have really enjoyed getting up to speed. Cheers.

Lovely as usual ... but I always have a slight bug bear with your postings - the images you post are always quite low res so when clicked upon they hardly enlarge at all. Such a shame as it would be great to zoom in and really appreciate the excellence of both the modelling and the detail. Not a criticism ... more of a plea

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Recently rebuilt the engine on my 1971 VW Bus .... moving on to the interior now .... couldn't give a monkeys what its re-sale value is (apart for insurance purposes) - but then I like kit building trains and rolling stock ... QED!

Just in case you are not familiar with Tony's videos I will link here again ... apologies if this is all familiar to you - I still re-watch them.

Its odd isn't it .... because we will happily buy a car and write off exorbitant sums of money!

As a recent kit builder with limited experience I think basic 0-6-0 tender and tank engines with inside motion still offer this. My entry was an old DJH Barney kit ... re-made 3 times. DJH and South Eastern still produce such kits. Simple rigid chassis construction as demonstrated on Tony's Right Track videos demystifies the process of this element. Given that these two manufacturers produce very accurate and well thought out kits .. you could argue that they are simpler than earlier offerings to build. Just a personal observation ... but then I have no idea where I would stand in the league football analogy. What I do think is a great help is to have a friendly mentor or failing that (my situation) a friendly virtual mentor via a DVD/Video/Youtube.

Basic question ..... does anyone know if it is possible to neutralise blackening fluid insitu on nickel silver already installed on the layout (point rodding) .... if so how without damaging stuff around?

Are they removable or permanent ... if removable - by what attachment method? Lovely photo and lovely modelling by the way.

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It was absolutely with reference to soldering (relating to the Gibson 4F build) and the danger of blunting the cutters when trimming ... perfectly valid comment if you are not looking for magnetic interchangeable lamps. But magnetic modelu lamps has peaked piqued my interest somewhat.

Sounds interesting .... any chance of a photo(s) of your system? In Tony's Right Track video he says '.... there's nothing more useless than steel staples for lamp irons .... I make my own from etch offcuts!' A way to easily attach and detach modelu lamps during a running session is rather an attractive proposition.

Amen !

I wonder how many of the 'established modellers' encompassed by this are members of a local club, rather than being simply forum members with a nostalgia for both steam and childhood memories of playing trains. I have no idea and am not implying either many or few. However, if the answer was few .... then i would suggest that the local club would be a very good route of getting established modellers into other and different creative aspects of the hobby. Casual conversations amongst friends and acquaintances will demystify much and certainty of help would perhaps lead to some having a go? So marketing of local clubs at shows? If the answer is many .... then this suggests that many clubs either don't promote modelling of this kind/do not have the skill base .... or there is no appetite for it. If this is the case ... then developing such an appetite would need some sort of outreach from the loco kit building fraternity via talks, demos etc - I suspect there would be little appetite amongst this fraternity to embark on such a strategy (such modellers I think would prefer to be invited and even then might decline - after all it is a hobby not a religion!). Good quality shows and magazine articles showing what can be achieved are therefore perhaps where we are at? People are then free to go down which ever route they choose.

Not convinced shows are the place for this. I came to it with very little prior knowledge through the internet. Clubs are the other obvious place .... maybe having more marketing etc for local clubs might be an approach?

To put the case for the kit ... from the perspective of one who is hopefully not going to drop off his perch for a good 30 - 35 years! Firstly if you model a line or era which is poorly served by RTR, you are going to have to kit or scratch build anyway .... and as the current train spotting generation works its way through, the massive emphasis on 1930s - 60s I suspect will drop off. Secondly, if you decide to model to EM or P4 standards (not to mention the myriad of options in other scales) then if you go RTR you are still going to have to buy Wheels/Chassis/Gearbox combos (before any detailing alterations) ... so the cost comparison is not so out of kilter. I think you will always have a section of the hobby who will be more interested in the building/craftsmanship/making side of things .... it may settle back a touch, but i don't think it is a dying art. 3d printing will I suspect have a massive impact upon both kits and the RTR market. I refuse to be all doom and gloom. In P4 at least what we now have available and where things are going all look pretty healthy .... though I accept P4 is a pretty niche market compared to the over all hobby.

It just goes to show how supply and demand can effect things I suppose. The explosion in the sheer range and quality of RTR over the last 20 years has been extraordinary. This means that people can achieve much finer layouts out of the box than ever used to be the case. Given this i can understand how ones hopes and expectations might rise and so complaints will arise for those things not commercially available ... particularly where absolute fidelity to a specific loco/coach/wagon at a specific point in time is not the aim. I can also see that many will be seduced into finer scale modelling with no will or wish to roll up sleeves and get hands dirty so to speak ... or perhaps there interest lies in scenic modelling or some other aspect. If there was a way to measure, I would be fascinated to know what relative numbers in the hobby are now compared to say the mid 1990s. Perhaps the RTR box openers are a new comtemporary subset of the hobby in addition to what went before rather than instead of? Sorry ... the day it stops being fun and becomes work, I'm off. Fun and serious I don't think are mutually exclusive.

Your alter ego perhaps? .... Jekyll and Hyde and all that - Its a nice thought experiment

Small ... yes .... Insignificant ...hmmmm! Love the picture frame top right.

There are a fair few photos of the station concourse itself from the 70s in the studies library (part of this set - see below) ... I could get some copies if they are of any use? I haven't done so to date as they are primarily internal. T

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I suspect it is more to do with communication methods than it is generational or specific to a given strata of people. In the past people were happy to be extreme/rude (irate of Tonbridge Wells) when hiding behind the screen of a letter ....where there was no personal contact. Equally things can get quite judgemental within private groups where there is a consensus of opinion - though here the object of ire is rarely aware of the attack. However, face to face or to some extent through the direct contact of the telephone a more tolerant/conciliatory atmosphere generally prevails. One first tries to understand rather than immediately jump to defence. I would argue that this began to change with the advent of email - people started making impulsive and more extreme responses that would certainly have required a girding of the loins and a deep breath if done face to face .... effectively hiding behind the keyboard. We have a rule in our office that any strongly worded e-mail response has to be read by at least one other professional and should not be sent for 24 hours (a cooling off period). Forums have exacerbated this situation as comments can be passed in both anonymity and with no danger of ever having to meet the person. Add into this mix the disingenuous and the trolls and you have a volatile environment. Furthermore, the method of communication is very two dimensional meaning the subtleties of inflection and irony can be easily lost - it is open to misinterpretation and indeed misrepresentation. To some extent the development of Imojis is an attempt to address this. For all their limitations and problems I am still a fan of forums as they allow a connection and method of communication that can be very fulfilling and create links that would otherwise never exist. I suppose, as with all things, they are what you choose to make of them.

Presumably one is entitled to one's own opinion and free to express it (even be commissioned to express it ). Equally, every listener and or reader is free to disagree and express their opinion as to why. Otherwise life would be so boring