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I don’t have a complete timetable for all stops but I have the departures and arrivals for London Bridge and Bricklayers Arms for 19th March 1844.
Dep. LB: 7.30am, 11.30 (fast), 1.30Pm, 4.30, 5.30.

Arr. LB: 8.00am 11.00, 2.00pm, 4.00, 6.00.

Dep. BA: 9.30am (3rd class), 12.30pm (1st&2nd), 2.30 (3rd class), 3.30 (fast), 7.30.
Arr. BA: 6.00am (3rd class), 10.00 (fast), 12.00noon (3rd class), 3.00 (?class), 7.00 (3rd class).

The class for the 3pm arrival at BA is blank but I assume 1st&2nd, and I wonder just how fast the ‘Fast’ service really was? I would guess around 30-35mph average, ‘Fast’ simply meaning fewer stops.

Just now, Compound2632 said:

That little engine has such character that one wants to see a re-interpretation with your current skill set! 

Yes but.....GWR..... really? 

43 minutes ago, snitzl said:

My very first scratchbuilt loco was a Lancashire and Yorkshire saddle tank.

But like the rest of your work it’s so good! You put us all to shame!

2 hours ago, Mikkel said:

... so alternatively someone with motion sickness leaning over the side 

But where do I buy 4mm scale sick? The pieces of carrot would be tiny!

2 hours ago, burgundy said:

Surely, it is the cast from East Enders, from 170 years ago?

Good point! 

2 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Are these also your own figures? They are excellent, not least the guy having a good swig.

Thanks Mikkel. Yes, they’re my own figures. I was inspired by those lovely illustrations of excursion passengers having a good time, away perhaps for the first time in their lives from the daily grind. I wanted to show the whole spectrum of behaviour (and misbehaviour)! Hopefully I will get a few more done, somebody standing on the seat, someone leaning out waving, and so on.

Normally when you zoom in on an image of a model things start to get a bit ‘woolly’. What I love about this layout is that when you zoom in things still look as realistic as ever. Great work indeed!

26 minutes ago, burgundy said:

I think lettering for Booth Bros (for this particular kit) was in the POWSides range. 

 

Thanks Eric, I didn’t know that, handy if I build another. Cheers.

11 minutes ago, Dave John said:

Three interesting wagons, I like the livery of the Lime wagon. 

Thank you. I have no idea why they were buff and not the usual grey or red etc. I wonder if it was something to do with the make up of the paint to resist the corrosive effects of the Lime?

I had wondered if in fact they weren't painted at all for that reason, and we've misinterpreted the bare wood as a buff paint scheme. 

I’m afraid my website is hopelessly out of date. At some point I’ll get round to adding these new kits. I have some others I’m working on at the moment so perhaps I’ll add a batch when these are done.

The same arrangement would apply to anyone.

Let’s say ‘Bob’ sends me a master, I make the mould, cast it up and supply ‘Bob’ with as many castings as he needs from it. If he needs more than two or three then we would need to talk about materials costs, but my ‘payment’ would be permission to include the kit from ‘Bob’s’ masters in my 5and9models range. ‘Bob’ gets his master turned into the kits he needs and I’m out of pocket until I’ve sold enough of his kits to start to cover costs! It’s not exactly a great business model but then it’s not my business (I already have a day job) so it’s not so important.

1 hour ago, Mikkel said:

Very nice. Are Simon's kits broadly available?

They’re not Simon’s kits, he makes the masters, sends them to me and I make the moulds and do the casting, write the instructions, sort the etched parts etc., and pack them up. He gets paid in free kits and castings and he hasn’t complained yet... In answer to your question: yes, they’re available from me (5and9models).

1 hour ago, Ravenser said:

Looking forward to your forthcoming layout based on Birmingham Curzon St...

Ah yes, if I wasn’t modelling Bricklayers Arms I would without doubt be modelling Curzon St. If BA goes pear shaped, or by some miracle I actually finish it then Birmingham is my next project.

3 hours ago, Dave John said:

An interesting vehicle. Would they have been worked with the verandah to the outside of the train and turned at the destination ? 

Really interesting question and one which I’ve mulled over, asked various people, and drawn no firm conclusions. I would have thought the veranda should face the train so the brakesman can see what’s going on. However, the dumb buffers are that end and therefore would most likely face the other way with the spring buffers on the train side. Turning it wouldn’t be an issue as it would easily fit onto any wagon turntable. I suppose the veranda facing backwards would enable the brakesman to see the faster passenger train closing in behind him blissfully unaware that he hadn’t yet cleared the time interval for that section!!!

Very innovative Ian, well done!

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Excellent work. I can supply a full set of castings for this model if you're interested? Buffers, springs, axle boxes, stove chimney and brakes.

5 hours ago, snitzl said:

It's left me wondering how on earth you've managed to find the room to fit a motor and drive system inside ?.

Thanks.
I’ve updated the information on this blog to correct a couple of errors and provide a bit more info.

I’ve also taken a couple of shots which show the internal ‘gubbins’. You can see the drive train underneath, and the top of the boiler lifts off (only held on with blu-tack) and the tiny motor lifts out if necessary. I think I bought it from Branchlines many years ago. Probably one of my over enthusiastic exhibition purchases on the back of the classic excuse: “it’ll be useful one day”!

44 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

Great loco. Coffee Pots never disappoint, they always bring a smile to my face. I wonder how you powered this one?

 

 

I'm trying to picture the puzzled look of your co-workers as they arrive to find that their calendars have gone all soft and bendy 

Thanks Mikkel, it has a tiny motor inside the upright boiler with a little scratch built gear train to the driving axle. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of it under construction.

My card was actually 'harvested' from last years calendars. I haven't done this years yet, probably need to sneak in at the weekend and do it! 

8 hours ago, Alex TM said:

Looking forward to seeing more.

 

Thank you.

I’ve posted a lot of pics on the Facebook page ‘19th century railway enthusiasts’ if you’re on Facebook?

24 minutes ago, Ian Simpson said:

I'm also very impressed with the ballast.

Thanks Ian. 
I’m super pleased you like the ballast as I’ve fussed over it like Goldilocks and porridge! . I tried Woodland Scenics fine buff but didn’t get on with it - too coarse and uniform. I then had a go at a weird home brew of glue, ballast, and paint which was truly awful - I still wake at night in a cold sweat just thinking about the mess!

Finally I settled on glueing card (collected off the back of calendars at work) level with the sleepers. Then another layer To cover the sleepers and a strip down the middle of the track. This was then painted with a textured sandstone coloured masonry paint with extra sharp sand mixed in. Further weathering down with paints gave it a mottled appearance and we are where we are so to speak. My wife says it could do with some more weeds (and she’s probably right) but I’m so glad you approve. I never anticipated how hard it is to get right. I’ve yet to roll out the technique on a larger scale but I’m hopeful it will leave the point work refreshingly unclogged.

2 hours ago, ianmaccormac said:

oh, and inside as opposed to outside cylinders! So not very close at all really!

 

No, not really, but the Bury rebuild would make a lovely model too.

May I drop a heavy hint to have access to that rather interesting drawing you’ve posted please?

You’re making a fine job of that, it’s looking very good indeed!

39 minutes ago, MikeOxon said:

Wonderful modelling, as usual.  I especially like the load of atmospheric  pipes.  You make me feel that I model too modern a period

Thank you. I wouldn’t say the Broad Gauge is too modern. If I wasn’t up to my neck in standard gauge of the 1840s I’d be modelling the BG too.

That looks superb. I think the way you paint the rust patches is excellent. Just needs a few streaks down the wall where the frame meets it. Great work.