5&9Models

Fantastic progress. The assembled loco is looking great. The interesting thing about those wheels is that they have a prototypically fine rim and tyre, something that is lost on commercial wheels with chunky rims and tyres. I always feel even the best wheels can still be too chunky for 1840s locomotives.

Fascinating stuff, thank you. I’ve just completed Brian’s two volumes which were absolutely superb. I can’t wait for vol.3.
I’ve been modelling three Rennie locos for the standard (or narrow) gauge. It’s fascinating to see that they were not good locos until they built Mazeppa and Arab for the Broad Gauge. Since these were built to Gooch’s exacting standards they were good engines and interestingly Rennie’s subsequent locos for the standard gauge were also good. However, when you look at the drawings you can see why. They are all smaller copies of Mazeppa and Arab. I believe it was due to Gooch’s Fire-Fly design (and Stephenson’s Stars) that the Rennie brothers managed finally to produce a decent loco.

This is superb work and absolutely fascinating. I wonder if you would be interested in printing further splashers? I could do with some of a slightly smaller radius for my Rennie locos and your solution is so good.

Considering this is in 2mm, the standard of your work is breathtaking. I am in awe!

A really interesting and impressive project, thanks for sharing it.

Fantastic and absolutely fascinating as always.

I’m going through a very similar process at the moment but my firebox/boiler/smokebox assemblies are resin cast from scratch built masters. These are for my Rennie locos, but Satellite was basically a standard gauge version of their Mazeppa and Arab built to Gooch’s patterns.

Do you have Brian Arman’s two volumes on early BG locos? I’m reading them at the moment and have to say they’re superb.

Now this is really exciting! By coincidence I’ve just modelled some very similar sandwich frames for my 1841 Rennie ‘Satellite’ built for the London & Brighton Railway. Looking forward to seeing your project develop.

Wow Ian, you have been busy!

Great to see the progress and I love the little quayside railway. I seem to remember a conversation a couple of years back about casting some suitable seaside railings for you?

Superb work to a brilliant standard and so quick too! I’m really excited to see the locomotive project develop.

Great work, it’s a wonderful example of one of those vehicles you only get on the Broad Gauge where the wheelbase is wider than it is long!

Will you be printing the luggage too?

That crane looks superb. Looking forward to seeing the next wagon completed.

Fascinating job Ian, good to see such an iconic loco being modelled. I’m still hoping Hornby will follow their forthcoming Lion with a Patentee or Planet... or both!

Fantastic work and super quick too! Very much enjoying these posts even if I find the ‘computer bit’ rather baffling. I’m so old-fashioned!

2 hours ago, Mikkel said:

 

Ha, now that you mention it I can see it in her eyes!

 

I reckon she preferred the first version too! 

Excellent work, and as others have said, quick too! Well done.

I fully appreciate what you mean about the process rather than the finishing. I have a number of items of rolling stock waiting patiently for me to paint them. I really enjoyed creating them but finishing the painting and getting them on the layout? Well, that’s where I struggle, it’s much more exciting to move on to the next build.

Very much looking forward to the luggage box. Am I right in thinking there were a couple of different sizes?

21 hours ago, Mikkel said:

This discussion prompted me to have a look at the clothing shown in contemporary paintings. Of course, they are rather biased, aiming for that "wow" effect.

 

 

Abraham Solomon, 1854.

This is actually the 1855 revised version. In the original 1854 painting the young man is chatting-up the young lady while her father sleeps. However, it was so controversial Solomon had to repaint it so the father and young man were conversing and the ladies chastity remained intact!

Fascinating stuff! I find the width of this carriage surprisingly narrow given the possibilities of the broader gauge. Especially since W. B. Adams jointed carriages for the ECR were a full 9ft wide on 4ft 8-1/2in gauge track!

Impressive work and a really interesting project. I look forward to following this. 

15 minutes ago, ChrisN said:

The further away from London that you go, and lower down the social order, the more you can justify 'out of date' fashions.

 

Finally, and I have said this before on my thread, in 'Grandfathers London', which is a book of photographs of ordinary people in 1875, there is a lady half on the photograph in clothing of the 1850s, without the crinoline.  I understand that the second hand, and third, fourth and fifth hand market was quite strong so you can, to a point have older styles.

 

I think you should always have older styles. People could only have up-to-date fashion if they could afford it and the vast majority of them couldn’t. Most clothing was as you say third, fourth even fifth hand, either hand-me-downs or bought from second hand shops. There are some fabulous and inspiring photos of what most folks wore in ‘Dickens’s Victorian London’ by Werner and Williams, ISBN 978-0-09-194373-8 and ‘Images of Lost London’ by Philip Davies, ISBN 978-1-909242-04-3. But these  fascinating books come with a health warning, you will be up ‘til the small hours as once opened they are almost impossible to put down!

Fascinating choice of carriage, can’t wait to see this one progress.

13 minutes ago, Northroader said:

The thought of modelling slotted splashers on locos of that era scare the pants off me. Yours look so beautifully exact, presume hand filed? Marvellous!

Thank you. Yes, I soldered two pieces of 10 thou brass together, marked them up, drilled some holes and then spent some considerable time fettling  with the Swiss files! 

Absolutely outstanding as always Mikkel. I’m a great believer that a model railway should be an opportunity for story telling, a bit of theatre to entertain and amuse. You are truly a master at this. Bravo!

I know. 

4 minutes ago, Dave John said:

The "tender" will be interesting , though I wonder how it was arranged internally. Was coal stored in small bunkers where the sidesheets are shown? 

Thank you. Being 1849 the loco was a coke burner. Coke was often supplied to the locos in sacks and couldn’t be piled up like coal so easily as it’s light weight would cause it tumble around and fall off. Therefore the complete lack of any bunker sort of makes sense. I can only imagine that when the fireman was running low, the brakesman would haul another sack over to the loco. It’s something I will have to make sure I include on the model.

50 minutes ago, ianmaccormac said:

Hi Chris,

I will echo Eric's thoughts! Cheers, Ian

Thanks Ian, much appreciated.

1 hour ago, burgundy said:

Chris

I had wondered how you were going to follow the Bodmer, without choosing something mundane or "modern" - I should have known. Another lovely piece of work. 

Best wishes 

Eric 

Thank you Eric, not Brighton related but a fascinating little loco. Looking forward to starting the tender/carriage next.