pb_devon

11 hours ago, dogbox321 said:

 

Hi, thanks.  That was my "thought".  Hence I wondered if anyone else had a copy lurking at the back of their computers hard drive!  He said on this forum that he was happy for others to see the work, and it's amazing what you can detect from a photograph  (Like just finding out about the staff section, in the corner of a photo!).  Hence I'd really like to see a copy, if there was half a chance! 

 

This is exactly why I am asking the questions now, as if I ever get to do my model railway "Magnum-opus", it will form part of it, and as time passes more of the lines history will disappear.  Plus its very interesting!  Anyone with it - please feel free to PM me!

 

Regards,

 

C.

A search of RMweb produced a posting by Coombe Barton in 2012, which seemed to indicate he had a copy. If you find one, then I’d also welcome sight of it.

Google Earth in 3D mode is useful as you can see some of the signals. 

Have you seen the signalling map on OTT? https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/exeter

That shows all movements to beyond the washer are signalled from Plymouth Panel. I would guess there is a Stop Board into Friary from there.

On 23/08/2019 at 20:50, Captain Kernow said:

Anyone coming to Devon this weekend, watch out for the usual spectacle of sheds on wheels clogging up the roads.

 

And right on cue......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-devon-49447555/dog-survives-after-devon-caravan-crash

18 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

Has the OP gone AWAL like so many these days? Not wasting by precious breath any more on this one.

P 

Thats a bit unkind? He was here on Sunday morning.

Re6/6, the track remains to the EMR scrap handling depot, but hasn’t seen any rail traffic in years. The remainder of the branch is slowly disappearing under development.

Details of the various private sidings and freight connections on the Cattewater branch are in Plymouth’s Hidden Railways by Paul Burkhalter Twelveheads Press 2017.

2 hours ago, Tony Cane said:

According to details in the book "Devonport Dockyard Railway"  the livery of steam locomotives was Plum colour (more a dark red) with yellow lining, with exception of one engine in faded green with yellow lining.

If you look for colour images of Devonport loco No 19, at Bodmin & Wenford, this is a brighter plum than the original.

The single green loco, nicknamed The Green Goddess, was that colour because it was destined for another location.

33 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

And at Liskeard, I think you can still marvel at the quirky semaphores still in use?

They most certainly are!!

On 16/07/2019 at 07:46, Pete 75C said:

 

Mañana, Mañana...?

Give it another 10 months, maybe?

I like someone with optimism!!

On 13/09/2018 at 09:01, pb_devon said:

I was in Denia last week and observed that the station area track, plus about 1km, appeared complete with even signal aspects showing. However the track was disconnected across a temporary road junction, with nothing seemingly happening.

So, 10 months later and I find exactly the same this week!

You are not short of options!

The Swiss Railway Society is the english language interest group and has a number of publications: https://swissrailsoc.org.uk/

As for other books, try Amazon search “swiss railways “ in the books section for a wide range. Avoid the tourist ones!

It will all depend on your level of interest and price preference.

The two you mention are ‘spotters’ books so might not be what you are looking for.

17 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

I'm sorry, CK, but your increasingly obvious familiarity with Totnes is a worry for those of us who see you as a decent, grounded sort of chap. The place is famous for alternative outlooks and lifestyles. We hope you don't become infected. 

Decent, grounded??? Have you never met CK? 

I will introduce you one day, if you visit the UK. Then you will know the truth.

This period film is worth a watch...https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-beautiful-panorama-of-railway-ride-from-st-german-to-milray-1901-1901-online  The title should say “Royal Albert Bridge to Keyham”. And the horse tram is clearly electric!

I have told BFI about all the errors in their text, but they don’t appear to be interested in doing anything about it. Shame.

I’m in the area again in a months time, and ask if someone could give an update on progress, or even better still, is there yet a service?

Thanks

1 hour ago, locoholic said:

Does the strengthening of the Dawlish Sea Wall mean that train passengers will no longer be able to see the sea properly?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-48472901

No.

The length of work is between Dawlish Station and Kennaway tunnel ONLY. About 1/3rd of a mile. For this length it is possible the sea will still be visible, but not the beach. The  remainder of the sea wall is unaffected.

Those that are able should refer to page 138 in Paul Burkhalter’s book Devonport Dockyard Railway, now sadly OOP. There is a picture of an internal bogie tube wagon in Devonport Dockyard carrying dock blocks very similar to the RCTS image at Carlisle.

12 hours ago, jim.snowdon said:

For ships, the docking blocks are normally flat and placed under the keel in a line from one end to the other, located under specific frames (the transverse elements of the ship's structure). These support the weight of the ship, and it is kept upright by the lateral shores between the hull and the sides of the dock.

If the ship is wide enough, there will an additional line of blocks under the flat bottom of the hull on either side, in which case the lateral shores are not needed.

 

Jim 

Ahh, but some RN ‘ships’ (the sinking types) don’t have keels like the floaty ones!!

4 hours ago, AberDG said:

Having looked at the picture again......what are the loads on the Warwells??

....and wonder what is in the second OAA

.....perhaps the loads are all connected to some work in the Devonport dry docks?

Cheers,

John

 

Difficult to see clearly, but possibly more dock blocks laid on their side. A lot are required to support a ship, more than the few on the first wagon. 

They are dock blocks, i.e. the shaped pieces that go in a dry dock to support a ship’s hull. If the destination is Tavvy Jct then Devonport is most likely the ultimate destination. 1990 was the final year of MoD general freight to Devonport. 

47 minutes ago, Siberian Snooper said:

 

They still export clay, it comes down from Lee Moor in lorries.

 

 

 

 

Indeed, you can always tell when a ship is in dock by all the HGV tipper trucks trundling into Plymouth from the east.

The wagons said to comprise the last freight to Victoria Wharves, thought to be in 1991, were VDA and VGA.

However for Brian's benefit, here is something from 19 October 1965.

John,

I have now remembered that I have some images of wagons in Victoria Wharves in the modern era. I will dig them out and post in due course.

Just to clarify....RNAD Bullpoint ceased to exist in the early 1990s. At that time the site was merged with Devonport Dockyard/Naval Base. Access was created from Weston Mill Jetty, and the separate entrance from Barne Barton closed. The site is still in use for RN and dockyard activities, but no armament use.

Narrow gauge railway ceased about 1958, and the standard gauge branch OOU about 1985. I suspect nothing had travelled over the branch for some time before that.

11 hours ago, brianusa said:

Gorgeous Cornish weather.  Everything sparkling although the HST set could have looked better though, including a windscreen wash.  Looked well attended too!

      Brian.

Don’t be deceived Brian, it was blowing a gale and freezing!