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1 hour ago, SteamingWales said:

 

Thanks, but the link still has the same result. Just takes me to the account dashboard page

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I'd be very surprised if it couldn't! For the record Tillig and Roco code 83 will connect with Peco's code 80 and 55 as well, so anyone using Tillig's TT track won't have any issues either other than which rail joiner to use.

2 minutes ago, Zunnan said:

 

Are you sure you're not mixing up social anxiety issues with model shop proprietors being on the whole extremely helpful and knowledgeable? I can only think of a former shop in Warwick as being anywhere near unpleasant. Everywhere else I've been up and down the country I've been met with nothing but a smile and advice when asked for. I don't know what shops you're going into to feel so put out, but the most intimidating place I can think of is Tutbury Models where you're greeted with a cheery 'ow do's duck, if you need a hand wi owt gissa shout'.

To be fair to the OP on this I have also experienced what he's said, probably from proprietors who have experienced people not known to them coming in and stealing stuff so they tend to keep a closer eye on you than those they know. It can come across in the way he described. Most proprietors are fine once they know you, it's just getting over that initial stage on both sides that can be an issue.

43 minutes ago, Taigatrommel said:

Code 80 track is what Tillig use

They use code 83, not 80, though the two can be coupled together with no issues, I've been doing it for decades with Tillig and Roco H0e code 83 and Peco's code 80s.

Ordered a set, now await it's arrival. The discount from the "club" makes quite a saving as well.

2 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

Hornby's choice of prototype is also a bid odd. Do people really want large express engines ? The trainset brigade will be fine but what about the modellers ? Sure, I see the 08 and possible J94. ( Both previously mentioned by Heljan as being under consideration as it happens ) but what about the middleground ? 4F, J15, 700 and a Dean Goods or maybe a Class 20 or a 25 ? Even a Black 5 or K mogul...S15, Class 37 etc..........

Answered your own question there, the initial launch is all about getting it out there so the "trainset brigade" are the ones it is aimed at, because they are the ones that will buy in larger numbers initially. I doubt RMWeb members will constitute a large percentage of sales, especially as so many have felt the need to say that they aren't interested in it! So perhaps the choice isn't odd!

As for the rest you need to read the rest of the catalogue, for a start a Black 5 is mention in Phase 2, no doubt others will come along in due course.

11 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Simple punishment would be if they went 5% over budget this year reduce next years budget by 5% with a strict and independent audit of their spending throughout the year.

Pete beat me to it, any punishment needs to be a deterrent. They've already gained a lot both last season and this from the overspend. If the powers that be decide to put in a price cap then they have to enforce it with something that stops others doing it again.

32 minutes ago, TT-Pete said:

 

Or another illustration of 00, TT and N:

 

I assume that the middle loco is TT3 (1:100), Pete? If so for anyone looking the new version are TT(1:120) so will be slightly smaller. There are photos for comparison purposes between 1:120 models and British N 1:148 on the photo size comparison thread in the TT120 section of the forum.

21 minutes ago, Stefen1988 said:

Auhagen (german company) offers buildings suited for TT & H0/00 alike.

 

Faller has a Castle model in it's H0 Range which is actual a N model offered as a "background object".

Auhagen's range is labeled TT/H0 and is to 1:100 scale according to their catalogue.

There are quite a few model buildings in the continental manufacturers H0 ranges that are nearer TT than H0, they tend to be ones that were brought out in the 60s and are still in production. Many of the Auhagen ones were ex Vero and known to be smaller, at least Auhagen have been honest, Faller and others still sell them as H0!

It certainly seens to be...

1 hour ago, andythenorth said:

Being terribly childish, I can't be bothered to read the whole thread, although I made it through the first 4 pages.

 

Can someone summarise?

 

Have the thinking types all agreed with each other that this is all terribly stupid and can't possibly work yet?

 

Has valve gear been mentioned?  Is there a debate about why this isn't 3mm?

 

i.e.  is there any actual content in the thread beyond the first page announcement?

To summarise look at the video and catalogue, the rest of the thread is froth.

Some are knocking it, some because they don't seem to like Hornby and some because they don't agree with the choices and others because they are established in another scale and can't imagine what the market will be... Oh, and that it will fail and take Hornby down with it.

No valvegear... Yet. But give them time... ;)

No.

3 minutes ago, Stefen1988 said:

They could release ballasted tracks instead - I don't see there is an issue with "they can't launch everything at once"..

So should they prioritise your choices over those of others?!

I didn't say that, simply pointing out that they can't launch everything at once, what they have in the pipeline I don't know and never said any different. Just I see lots if posts saying "why haven't they launched this or that" to which the answer is obvious, they can't do everything at once!

3 minutes ago, eldomtom2 said:

Are you saying you know the Hornby TT track to not be new?

A3s and 4s have been painted in LNER liveries long after 1947 and hauled  them so Mk1s are fine! ;)

Just now, Stefen1988 said:

I wonder why they do not came up with ballasted tracks when this is more for hobbists / casual customers.

Because they can't launch everything at once, a point seemingly missed by many posters. 

Express engines that will sell and some Mk1s to go behind them. From what I've seen mk1s will go behind an A3 or 4 in virtually any livery.

16 minutes ago, phil gollin said:

Still, I can still see the attractions for families living in small homes.

Still this comment continues (no disrespect to you, Phil!). There's a lot more to 1:120 scale than small layouts. All of my TT scale layouts have depicted a railway in the scenery,  it has the advantage over 00 on space and allows much more detail than N. So you get the best of both worlds. Yes, it will be an advantage in small homes, but that isn't the sole reason to choose it, in my case that isn't a reason at all.

You don't gave to be a cynic to know that, it's a certainty.

20 minutes ago, jonnyuk said:

next question is, with a clean slate in terms of era/location, what would you go for? i've always regretted not going with the transition years from steam to diesel in OO but i don't see allot in phase 1>4 to cover that

In my case late BR Steam early preservation in the north west, 67, 68. Imagining the Pilling Pig had been preserved. All I want is an 8f to be added to phase 2.

Not aimed at you, Jason, but look at some of the other replies!

As for high risk, perhaps, perhaps not, time will tell. Unlike some I recon there is a market for the scale in the UK, but as I've said, I've actually modelled in 1:120, unlike many who pass comments without having done so, and I can attest to the "ideal scale" phrase that is being used. No-one is asking for people to shift scale. Though to be fair many of us have over the years, me included, so it's not exactly unknown. How many N scale modellers started life modelling in 00, for instance!! ;)

I see the negative vibes from some are already here, sadly! Well I hope Hornby prove you naysayers wrong!! Look at the other threads on the 1:120 section, @The Stationmaster and you will see from the size comparison thread that there IS a noticeable difference in size between British N and 1:120.

I've no SG stuff and I'm one of those who have modelled in 1:120 scale, albeit not UK outline, and I'm more than happy with the announcement, when phase 2 models are released I'll have nearly everything I need for a model based on what i saw as a spotter in the late 60s around Preston. Black 5, 9F and Brit, all I need is an 8F to make it perfect!

Thanks, Hornby!

Well it's Hornby!!

https://uk.Hornby.com/hornbytt120

Thought it was Wednesday, it seems to change daily?! Until they announce them there's nothing to discuss, though!! It'll be a whitewash anyhow...

Now that's what i call a diversion!! ;)

18 hours ago, 30801 said:

There have been a few cordless trolleybuses where they pop up a pantograph at each stop and slurp up some power into a giant ultracapacitor. I don't know if they're becoming obsolete compared to straight BEV buses.

Nordhausen uses battery trams, the section from the town centre to Ilfeld on the Harz NG network uses a combination of them and diesel and steam, must be unique from that point of view, at least as a 365 day a year public timetabled service! The trams charge up when circulating Nordhausen centre with the pantograph up and use battery up to Ilfeld, they aren't 'alf noisy in battery only mode, though! Answers the question on where to put the OHLE, in the town!