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Thanks, several people I know have the Suzuki Swace and say they get similar mpg.

5 hours ago, AndrueC said:

For what it's worth my Corolla turned in 71 mpg on both journeys and 67 mpg including local driving

Sorry, Andrue, I've probably missed it, but what Corolla model is it?

Thanks Ron, I got the impression from some posts that people had them attached to the mains at every opportunity! Nice to know that you don't have to. That way of doing it seems very logical but not the way many people do it who always seem to want full (or 80%!) charge all the time.

Those with EVs, if you, say, spend a week just pottering around town, doing a few miles a day and then do a longer trip over the weekend do you leave it on charge every night or charge it up once at the beginning of the week and then again the day before the long trip?

1 hour ago, Fenman said:

My guess is that there is no mass-market future for long distance [leisure] motoring.

Has it ever really been any different? However there is still a large market for long distance travel in certain jobs that require it, and there will be a decent leisure travel market as well, so a requirement for decent battery capacity shouldn't be ignored just because of that.

1 hour ago, Fenman said:

never takes their car out of the UK.

No, they fly! But again that's been the case for the last 50+ years.

Don't think so in the 60s, look at the slipstreaming that took place.

2 hours ago, idd15 said:

He was towing a dirty great big caravan, towing eats energy whether its electrons or dino juice. If the Kia had not been towing it would in all probability do exactly what you think you can achieve with a fossil equivalent.

 

The whole point, as he was also at pains to point out, is that while the car is charging you do something else. Get your head around that and long journey times are not an issue. I speak as someone who does regular road trips in an EV with 135 miles practical range and a max charging speed of 50Kwhr.

 

"hybrids for me for the time being." That's good, you've kicked a hole in your in your emissions and running costs, be happy.

 

idd

 

Wow, that's ultra defensive!! I appreciate he's towing, but even towing I didn't have to stop so often. It's about mindsets and the current technology, whilst you find it acceptable I don't see why the rest of us should have to accept it just because you do. Hence my comments about PHEVs, I am prepared to accept the compromise, you aren't, be happy!

I used to get 50+ mpg towing a much less aerodynamic 15' caravan ... Maestro Clubman D (non turbo) with an Eccles Amythyst, and I didn't drive slowly with it to get that mpg either!

Regards distance, I do have stops, but they aren't enforced stops which are much more often than I would do with an EV and I don't have to worry about having to find a charging point that's either working or free. I think it's all about getting into a different mindset, but I think it's a backward step that we are asking people to accept limitations and then playing them down.

4 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said:

I have said many times before that allowing pit stops during safety car periods is unnecessary & ruins races.

Completely agree, if the tyres need changing then they can be done after the restart.

13 hours ago, 30801 said:

But what if I want to tow a caravan from Scotland to Germany?

Well at least it's honest, I've driven from Birmingham to southern Germany many times and I'm afraid that video shows just why long journeys aren't, currently, the forte of EVs. Some people might find it acceptable to spend stops every hour or so to top up but that's not my idea of a good long journey. For example, from Kiddy we drive straight down to the tunnel in one go (3 to 4hrs dependent on the M25), then use the tunnel, have a break at the tunnel's waiting area, fill up at the cheap garage the other side and 1.5 hours to Belgium for an o/n and wander round some nice town. Onwards next morning for 2.5/3.5hrs to somewhere in Germany and stop for lunch. The same in the afternoon and o/n somewhere like Heidleburg (sp!), fill up at night and same next day. Relaxing 3 day trip to south of Munich. In the old days I could do that lot in 1.5 days! OK, not towing a caravan so with a car wit a real range of around 3hrs it would be possible, but I only have to fill up twice and don't have to worry about finding chargers.

His description of the journey really worries me if people feel that that is the acceptable face of future long distance motoring. Yes it can be done, but I wouldn't regard it as the relaxing time I have at the moment of long journeys, EV's days will come but they still have some way to go, hybrids for me for the time being.

Looking at the bottom of the rear wing it's lucky they didn't put "No Rust"!

Could any of the Triang chassis be used for 1:120 locos and stock? I know we've discussed the possibilities of Continental TT being used as doner chassis, but not Triang. Probably not, too wide I'd expect.

Just think how many more he'd have got if he'd tried a bit harder, though! Yes i suppose I could have chosen better but I don't feel that his level of wages were justified (other than for the amount of merchandising income he brought in), other forwards on a lot less gave much better value for money. 

I posted a YouTube link of someone that had done it, to save having to look on that thread here it is: 

An interesting thought, why don't you ask the others who keep repeating the same flawed comments over and over to stop as well, FP?

We all know that its not possible to make a finescale model of some prototypes in 1:120, but an RTR model isn't finescale and has compromises! All I ask is that we wait and see rather than keep repeating the same stuff over and over on various threads.  ;)

I just don't get this, yet again we are just given speculation by finescale modellers as reasons that TT1:120 won't happen for British models whilst they continue to ignore that the manufacturers will just compromise when building them, like they always have done, and for some prototypes that compromise will be more noticeable than on others.

Great, chaps, you've made your point, numerous (and I'd say far too many) times, so much so it's getting very, very, boring now. But none of your so called facts prove anything until an actual British prototype RTR loco is produced in TT1:120 and we can see what the outcome is. 

From what you keep on saying the only conclusion I can take from your continued speculating is that you want it to fail, despite you denying it, otherwise you'd give it a break and wait and see like the rest of us. Prove me wrong and just give it a break, eh!

Even with all the figures it'll still be speculation, Ravenser. Whatever we think might happen the chances are the manufacturers will use the same standards as already used by Tillig, Piko, etc., are already using and for what the Peco points have been designed for!! For some British locos there will be some compromises, all except a small group have accepted that already. 

There's your answer.

I still think that results orientated pay would make many players try a lot harder. If you've got quarter of a million quid or more coming in every week regardless of what you do what incentive is there...

Ask CR7! ;)

19 minutes ago, NCB said:

 because they get slaughtered on here if they aren't 

I think you over estimate the influence of this forum. The majority of railway modellers aren't members of it and even then its only a small percentage of members that will get involved in any such discussion. I think if you look at the world beyond this forum that most modellers work on the "if it looks OK, it is OK" principle. I appreciate that finescale modellers will not understand this but that's how the world works outside the finescale modelling circles where therest of us inhabit. 

Manufacturers will try to get things as accurate as they can, certainly compared with the 50s and 60s, but they also know that the majority of modellers will accept some compromises to have a viable model that they can plonk on the track and run. So if its a mm or so out to allow that the majority will accept it without question and we'll enjoy using it and ignore the protestations of a small minority.

I do wish we'd stop giving the opposition a head start... Are Bournemouth the whipping boys this season, conceded 16 already? What's happening at Leicester?

47 minutes ago, NCB said:

Why do you think there is no mainstream example of British  products running on scale track? Read George Mellor on it; it was the wheels.

Things have moved on from his time... I don't know why you (and some others) have to keep banging on about it, they'll do some sort of compromise, just like RTR manufacturers have always done, and 99% of modellers will accept it. Finescale modellers won't, but to be quite frank I couldn't care less what they think as I'm not a finescale modellers and never intend to be. But I really wish they'd give it a rest and just wait and see.

1 hour ago, Jeff Smith said:

That's already been discussed on the other thread dealing with wheel standards........

It's never stopped them in the past, Jeff! ;)

Wait for the "locos with splashers" posts to come along, @mdvle! 

18 hours ago, 37114 said:

If anyone other than a Mercedes, Sainz or Perez wins on Sunday then you would have to say the above have missed a very open goal.

Well that's jinxed them hasn't it!

4 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Prison is an expensive solution.

Not if he hits someone whilst driving and causes them life threatening injuries, it's the cheap option then... So do we let him carry on hoping that he won't hit someone, or...