Hobby

I just don't get this, yet again we are just given speculation by finescale modellers as reasons that TT1:120 won't happen for British models whilst they continue to ignore that the manufacturers will just compromise when building them, like they always have done, and for some prototypes that compromise will be more noticeable than on others.

Great, chaps, you've made your point, numerous (and I'd say far too many) times, so much so it's getting very, very, boring now. But none of your so called facts prove anything until an actual British prototype RTR loco is produced in TT1:120 and we can see what the outcome is. 

From what you keep on saying the only conclusion I can take from your continued speculating is that you want it to fail, despite you denying it, otherwise you'd give it a break and wait and see like the rest of us. Prove me wrong and just give it a break, eh!

Even with all the figures it'll still be speculation, Ravenser. Whatever we think might happen the chances are the manufacturers will use the same standards as already used by Tillig, Piko, etc., are already using and for what the Peco points have been designed for!! For some British locos there will be some compromises, all except a small group have accepted that already. 

There's your answer.

I still think that results orientated pay would make many players try a lot harder. If you've got quarter of a million quid or more coming in every week regardless of what you do what incentive is there...

Ask CR7! ;)

19 minutes ago, NCB said:

 because they get slaughtered on here if they aren't 

I think you over estimate the influence of this forum. The majority of railway modellers aren't members of it and even then its only a small percentage of members that will get involved in any such discussion. I think if you look at the world beyond this forum that most modellers work on the "if it looks OK, it is OK" principle. I appreciate that finescale modellers will not understand this but that's how the world works outside the finescale modelling circles where therest of us inhabit. 

Manufacturers will try to get things as accurate as they can, certainly compared with the 50s and 60s, but they also know that the majority of modellers will accept some compromises to have a viable model that they can plonk on the track and run. So if its a mm or so out to allow that the majority will accept it without question and we'll enjoy using it and ignore the protestations of a small minority.

I do wish we'd stop giving the opposition a head start... Are Bournemouth the whipping boys this season, conceded 16 already? What's happening at Leicester?

47 minutes ago, NCB said:

Why do you think there is no mainstream example of British  products running on scale track? Read George Mellor on it; it was the wheels.

Things have moved on from his time... I don't know why you (and some others) have to keep banging on about it, they'll do some sort of compromise, just like RTR manufacturers have always done, and 99% of modellers will accept it. Finescale modellers won't, but to be quite frank I couldn't care less what they think as I'm not a finescale modellers and never intend to be. But I really wish they'd give it a rest and just wait and see.

1 hour ago, Jeff Smith said:

That's already been discussed on the other thread dealing with wheel standards........

It's never stopped them in the past, Jeff! ;)

Wait for the "locos with splashers" posts to come along, @mdvle! 

18 hours ago, 37114 said:

If anyone other than a Mercedes, Sainz or Perez wins on Sunday then you would have to say the above have missed a very open goal.

Well that's jinxed them hasn't it!

4 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Prison is an expensive solution.

Not if he hits someone whilst driving and causes them life threatening injuries, it's the cheap option then... So do we let him carry on hoping that he won't hit someone, or...

Yet more guesswork.

Its as if some people don't want it to succeed and are talking it down at every opportunity.

4 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

So are your car purchases based just on running costs?

That's my final decider. I put together a list of suitable cars from the motability list, list the advance payments (none of the cars we need have nil APs!) and then look at fuel costs (electric, diesel or petrol) and whichever is cheapest when adding fuel and AP together gets chosen! 

1 hour ago, Hroth said:

 

Hardly worth them taking part in qualifying tomorrow!

 

Won't it decide which order they start at the back?

Interesting... Have they crash tested it yet and if so was the damage repairable compared with other, conventional, cars? He went on and on about insurance companies not wanting to repair modern cars but I wonder with its construction if it's more susceptible to getting written off then the equivalent car from other manufacturers... Or is it just another way to get people to buy more!

Someone on FB has run BTTB and Tillig locos through them as well.

I've checked all the books I have and none have drawings! I'd suggest emailing the Railway and asking them, the number of times they've repaired it I'm sure they will have!

No drawing but some nice detail shots!

https://www.16mm.org.uk/2015/08/01/mom2015-08/

It doesn't worry me at all, they'll do what manufacturers always do with RTR, compromise. I'm not after a finescale model in TT and I doubt many other people are either, so I'll just wait and see rather than speculate on something I have no input into nor any influence over!

I certainly won't "worry" over it, though, life's too short without making it shorter by worrying! ;)

At least it's still in the UK!

Yes they can, but they have to serve the ban before being allowed to drive (legally!). It's on the Gov. website.

I'm simply reporting what owners have said on FB, perhaps running them in a business scenario with high mileage suits them better than more random home use. 

MG have been pushing their cars on Motability with very cheap advance payments compared with similar cars from other makes.

So there's been a fair bit of feedback on them, EV wise the advertised 250/260 mile range is actually around 150/170 miles and the petrol engines are very thirsty. 

You pay for what you get  it seems, I nearly got one of the MG EV estates 18 months ago, I'm glad I didn't. I'll let others do the true world figure tests gor me!

Yet they still give them a driving ban (which they then ignore) and points (to be applied if they decide to go all legal and get a license!).

It isn't, they normally just get banned again and told to do community work. If you check your local papers reports of such people is pretty regular, and it's not just the dregs of society that do it either.

Out of interest does the battery life go down when sitting on the drive doing nothing?

For the British Market I recon Mk1 coaches are a definite, they've been around since the 50s, are still used on the mainline and are a heritage railway go-to. What more do you want!

(Oh, and they'd go with that 31!)