D860 VICTORIOUS

Hi John,

Fully understand your point. Just by the way,the TOPS renumbering of the whole BR fleet was one of the reasons I gave up my rail interest at the end of 1973,another reason being the demise of the Warships...!

Regards,

Neil

Thanks to you all for your replies. Apologies if the notes were cryptic,I assumed that any readers would be familiar with the loco classes.On reflection the few 25's at Toton is surprising. Maybe the two other 44's were indeed involved in the engineering work,thankfully another visit to Toton the following year found them on shed. 5901 and 8521 were as you say in use by the Research Dept.,and an APT was also seen at Derby.

Something I missed while posting this,must have got home via Paddington that day,seen there were:

152  D1033 D1073  1613 1729  4177  D7022 D7032.

Yep,going further afield from your home patch to go spotting was always something to savour,saving up pocket money being a limiting factor...

Cheers,

Neil

St. Pancras-Loughborough-St. Pancras  (bus replacement between Loughborough and Derby)

33 34 41 49 61 66 78 80 85 87 101 110 128 130 134  1750 1759  3020 3105 3382 3534 3577 3586 3699 3783 3869 3905 4139  5183 5214 5218 5219 5220 5221 5223 5225 5249 5277 7526 7565 7664  5581

Derby Works,Shed and Research Centre

9 24 30 57 68 70 77 104 116 124 134 143 144 160 161 170 177 180 182 189 191   1635 1662 1719 1730  2130 2387  3172 3175 3373 3403 3462 3570 3571 3572 3583 3776 3779 3790 3844 3910   5019 5029(part of cab) 5038 5056 5057 5064 5153 5187 5235 5244 5275 7523 7524 7547 7608  5901  8003 8047 8081 8150 8171 8188 8189  8521  2037(2-bil)

Toton

1 2 3 5 7 8 10 11 39 45 59 76 94 98 103 107 108 114 120  1582 1623 1683 1701 1721 1737 1788 1807 1812 1826 1827 1939 1943 1957   3021 3044 3249 3345 3362 3402 3404 3505 3514 3777 3852 3997  5276 7647   8002 8009 8012 8013 8036 8038 8042 8043 8066 8074 8083 8088 8136 8139 8145 8146 8147 8151 8155 8156 8158 8160 8167 8174 8183 8185 8190 8191 8192 8193 8195

Haulage: 66,St. Pancras-Loughborough  134,Loughborough-St.Pancras

I know this post goes on a bit,but it gives some idea of how good the railway was back then!

Neil

Southall 24 6 71

812 828   D1001 D1005 D1007 D1008 D1016 D1018 D1023 D1038 D1058 D1072   1200   1110 1561 1585 1606 1670 1732 1767 1803 1913

3963 3999   D7036 D7053

One of the times I came home from school,did homework,wolfed down my tea then walked to Southall. I copped 812 on an up express,then later on 828 hurried through on the down main with 6V07,Kensington Olympia-Penzance milk empties.A working I saw a few times on evening visits was a Freightliner which appeared from the London direction,which stopped at signals opposite the depot.After waiting for expresses to pass,this train then crossed to the down main and continued westwards. I'm fairly certain 1110 was on this working,suggesting it originated from the Eastern Region,the 11xx series of Brush 4's would have been rare on the Western.

Neil.

Willesden

1777 1986   3016 3027 3051 3107 3178 3770 3857 4132 4135 4151

5186 7527 7529 7531 7596 7629 7639 7660 7661 7662 7666   12058

E3016 E3021 E3048 E3071 E3086 E3089 E3102 E3106 E3107 E3110 E3115 E3116 E3119 E3154 E3157 E3161 E3165 E3181 E3183 E3184 E3190 E3192

83009 83010 83011

Old Oak Common

807 D809 825   D1002 D1031 D1041 D1042 D1051 D1053 D1055 D1057 D1058 D1059

1606 1610 1614 1615 1648 1659 1679 1681 1697 1752 1786 1823 1839 1904

3598 3599 3600 3953 3955 3961 3963 3966 3999 4026 4177   5530 5535 5536 5554 5668 5682 5809 5814 5828

D7019 D7023 D7027 D7029 D7034 D7035 D7037 D7038 D7045 D7061 D7066 D7070 D7079 D7084

Neil.

Very happy days!!

A normal spotting trip to Southall would yield 22's,42's,43's,52's,35's,a Pullman or two,and some named 47's that other regions didn't have. Not forgetting Falcon on most days.....

Neil

You have a good memory Jeff! I saw Foxhound several times in the spring of '71. By October,she was in store at Old Oak with 823 D809 and 842.

Great name for a loco....

Southall-Paddington-Southall

D817 865   D1024 D1027 D1034 D1068   1558 1584 1607 1666 1679 1681 1714 1721 1918

5539   D7046 D7088 

Kings Cross

169   1508 1516 1548   5602 5622 5642 5647 5677   9012 

St Pancras and Kentish Town 

12 47 49 61 64 88 104 121 123   3188 3306   5182 5216   

Euston

5220   E3102 E3104 E3110 E3114 E3115 E3120 E3129 E3142 E3146 E3154 E3163 E3165 E3168 3178 E3190 E3199 E3200 

Neil.

Ealing Broadway  8th April 1971

806  831  843  855

D1002  D1018  D1020  D1023  D1036  D1039  D1049  D1057  D1058  D1065

1586  1593  1609  1630  1638  1650  1653  1654  1658  1661  1667  1670  1672  1675  1681  1800  1854  1872  1902  1913  1922  1925 

D6336   6820  6825  D7005  D7028  D7036  D7046  D7052  D7082  D7092

D1002 noted as hauling the Royal Train

Neil.

Hi Nidge,

Interesting collection of shots there,I like to see pictures taken from the footbridge at Southall,where I spent a lot of time as a lad...Is that maybe a failed Warship being removed from a train?

Main line loco's were not uncommon visitors to the depot at Southall,although on one Saturday afternoon back in October 1971 I was really surprised when 831 Monarch arrived on shed,only Warship I saw on the depot.

More pictures please!

Neil

Can you recall if the signal works shunter No 20 was actually at the open day or just seen at the station? 

Tony

Hi Tony,

Am more or less positive that No. 20 was on display at the depot,to back this up I remember seeing a picture either in a magazine or somewhere on this esteemed site of the loco on display.

I wonder if I did see 1508,or was it a slip of the pen...

Neil

On this day in history 19th June 1971 

Ealing Broadway-Reading-Ealing Broadway,and Reading station

130   803 826 828 833 834 835 841 845    D1001 D1006 D1020 D1022 D1026 D1033 D1035 D1045 D1053 D1057 D1059 D1064 D1073   1200   1508 1591 1608 1619 1638 1647 1651 1659

1668 1701 1707 1889 1901 1911 1914 1921 1935    3601 3754 3948 3953 3958 3959 3966 3999 4026   5652   6500 6538 6574   D7011 D7020 D7037 D7060 D7061 D7066 D7071 D7084

Reading Depot Open Day   1678  3831  5539  D7026  E3044  20   7808 Cookham Manor

Although I have it written down,1508 seems a bit unlikely....

Neil

Apparently not - looks like the paint used on drivers doors on D860 was a special non weathering variant!

 

http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p634483962

 

Phil

Terrific stuff Phil-very inspirational!

Neil

That is a lot of Peaks at St Pancras (& the stabling point) - did you pop in before and after going to Kings Cross i wonder?

 

Tony

Hi Tony,

The Peaks were seen at the station,I never visited the stabling point.Looking at my records for that era,that seems to be a usual amount of Peaks,yes several visits were made,alternating with spending more time at Kings Cross,which was a fabulous place to watch activity.

Neil

That's a whole lot of middle wickets dodged then Mike!

 

This is the progress to date - thought an update might generate some interest

 

https://youtu.be/DU_SB1lvHDg

 

One missing - need to get to see Mr Hanson for Class 42 fan grilles, and a good few still need headcodes for external completion, then theres chips and speakers ....ouch!

 

Phil

Fabulous collection Phil!

Can I ask a couple of questions? Did Royal Oak in MFYE carry a blue data panel; do you have the nameplates for Victorious and if so are they the re-drawn ones?

Cheers,

Neil

On This Day In History 13th April 1971

Southall-Paddington-Southall

D837 867  D1001 D1010 D1024 D1035 D1044 D1055 D1058 D1064 D1067    1598 1659 1667 1670 1684 1714 1948   3601 3954 3961 3966 4177   7606   5513 5536   D7023 D7028 D7032 D7033 D7036

Kings Cross

159 184 188   259 277   1106 1108 1109 1503 1511 1517 1538 1543 1548 1549 1552 1566 1621 1761 1762 1763 1764 1992 1996 1999

5588 5592 5593 5594 5599 5601 5603 5610 5612 5614 5624 5627 5646 5647 5678   9009 9012 9015 9020

St Pancras

22 35 38 41 45 68 83 86 87 98 152   1631 1949  3306

Euston

7530  E3001 E3008 E3053 E3079 E3088 E3123 E3130 E3136 E3169 E3170 E3175 E3176 E3181 E3190 E3192 E3197 E3199

Waterloo

818  E6023  E6102 E6109

Hi Dave,

 

I was taking slides and prints back then,this one's a print.Unfortunately I don't have the means to post the picture atm,but am looking into it(i.e. will need some advice).Another option would be if I could get a copy of said print and forward it on to you.I will investigate and let you know.

 

Neil

Hi Dave,

Back in the mists of time you were enquiring about the livery on 37705.

I've now been able to get a copy of my print done.I have to say that I'm disappointed with the quality,it's not as sharp as my original,which obviously I want to keep.I should probably have got a copy using the negative,but that would be hard to find right now...

However,you're welcome to have a copy if you still need it,not sure how we would arrange this?

Neil

On this day in history 12th March 1972

Paddington-Swindon

D1012 D1048 D1050  1584 1599 1610 1655 1674 1715 1753  3599 3831 3940 3963 3965 3966 4179  5535 5682 5812  D7016 D7061 D7066 D7084  PWM651

Swindon Works (and stabling point)

D1000 D1004 D1017 D1018 D1019 D1020 D1064 D1065 D1066 D1071  1200  1661 1941  2120  3002 3042 3183 3218 3224 3358 3603 3607 3665 3666 3744 3817 3822 3829 3989 3991 4003 4023 4119 4124 4125 4163 4165

Withdrawn loco's

D804 D817 D819 823 828 D836 D837 D838 839 842 843 844 845 D847 D849 D851 852 853 854 855 857 858 D859 861 862 865 868 870   2378

D6310 D6318 D6320 D6322 6323 6326 D6327 D6333 D6336 D6339 D6340  D7002 D7006 D7010 D7013 D7020 D7024 D7033 D7042 D7048 D7049 D7058 D7059 D7072 D7081

Of 6326,only a small part of one cab remained.

Swindon and Bristol

15 92 129 146 147 149 158 163 186  D1004 D1015 D1059  1607 1630 1644 1672 1673 1723 1726 1946   2121 2122 2136  3003 3513 3517 4123 4169 4173  5824 5837  D7009 D7014 D7054 D7063  7588

St Phillips Marsh

D815 831 867 869  6308 6319 D6328 6330 D6334 D6337 6348  D7003 D7008 D7012 D7021 D7025 D7040 D7041 D7043 D7047 D7051 D7056 D7057 D7065 D7067 D7078

Bristol-Paddington

818 D1004 D1039 D1063  1585 1663  5655 5812  D7037 D7074

Haulage: D1050 Paddington-Swindon  D1027 Swindon-Bristol  D1027 Bristol-Paddington

A monumental waste of resources by any standards....

Neil

ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY 6th March 1971

Southall-Paddington-Southall

805 D837  D1009 D1013 D1016 D1017 D1018 D1023 D1024 D1030 D1048 D1061 D1073   1588 1596 1643 1652 1659 1675 1681 1896 1964   3601 3754 3947 3961 3963 3965 3966 4177 

D7007 D7061

Kings Cross

274 350   1107 1110 1502 1505 1508 1513 1514 1519 1521 1535 1549 1556 1567 1570 1621 1997   5591 5602 5604 5606 5607 5623 5625 5626 5640 5641 5642 5646

9003 9004 9014 9016

St Pancras

22 45 46 66 83 94 137 158   3179  5216

Liverpool Street

1575 1778   5507 5516 5566   6700 6721 6723   8030  8204

At the age of 11,this was my first visit to Kings Cross,St Pancras and Liverpool Street. My mate and I were walking up the wide staircase which led to the Underground at Liverpool Street when I heard a noise,looked round to see 8204 arriving on vans,30 seconds later would have missed it-the only one I saw in service.

Neil

I have Falcon logged at Southall on 24 7 72,no doubt on one of it's regular Bristol/Paddington/Bristol diagrams.That is my last record of it in the area.

I also have it logged on 23 8 72,while on a "Merrymaker" from Ealing Broadway to Barry Island and return,and referring to some of the previous posts,it may well have moved to South Wales by then.

Neil

On this day in history 16th January 1971

Southall-Paddington-Southall

D819 824 833 856 D859   D1000 D1007 D1009 D1014 D1033 D1034 D1041 D1043 D1045 D1048 D1064 D1068

1540 1594 1596 1603 1641 1650 1654 1656 1659 1667 1674 1678 1702 1904 1905 1920 1932 1933    3358 3600 3955   5536   D6340   6962    D7011 D7048 D7071

Neil

Hello Messrs Phil and Nidge,

Firstly,HNY to you both.Very happy days,can't remember them much though...The above info comes from my records from 1971,the first year I actually kept them,and they are by far the most

interesting that I have.You are both right with your comments on OOC's 22's,the last one I saw in the London area was D6340 at Southall on an unrecorded date in May 71. I have details of

further sightings up until April 71,I'd be quite happy to post under this heading if anyone's interested.I particularly remember 6356 being in good nick,possibly one of the last to get an overhaul..?

Many records of Class 43's in that year too...When's that time machine being made available to the general public....

Neil

ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY  4 1 71

Southall-Paddington-Southall

839 850 854  D1000 D1001 D1004 D1005 D1024 D1027 D1029 D1032 D1034 D1036 D1038 D1041 D1045 D1051 D1054 D1060 D1065 D1067

1592 1608 1612 1638 1647 1652 1655 1658 1661 1667 1668 1670 1680 1696 1707 1711 1855 1918 1919    3601 3602 3761 3947 3961 3965 3999

5522 5528 5530 5535 5536   6326 D6332    6831  D7010 D7028 D7030 D7032 D7034 D7070 D7071 D7095

Neil

ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY 4 12 71

Southall-Paddington-Southall

803 D1001 D1006 D1016 D1021 D1022 D1031 D1038 D1043 D1046 D1048 D1049 D1050 D1055 D1065 D1066

1583 1587 1593 1608 1638 1641 1647 1657 1663 1667 1672 1679 1689 1708 1736 1904 1913 1915 1921   3600 3963 3966   5528 5692   D7016 D7050 D7052 D7055 D7074

Kings Cross

171   264 275 359   1102 1108 1111 1506 1567 1766 1997   5592 5624 5626 5641 5644 5649   9003 9015 9017

St Pancras

50 69 127 131 176   1855   3304

At Paddington,the friendly crew of Albion allowed me and my mate into the cab,as the loco awaited to depart l/e,presumably for Old Oak Common. Great days... 

Neil

Sorry for the late reply Neil.

 

Been away at the Manchester Show.

 

I'd love to see that pic please.

 

Regards

 

Dave

Hi Dave,

I was taking slides and prints back then,this one's a print.Unfortunately I don't have the means to post the picture atm,but am looking into it(i.e. will need some advice).Another option would be if I could get a copy of said print and forward it on to you.I will investigate and let you know.

Neil