john flann

I agree with every word of the above post and the sentiments behind it.. I obviously cannot attend UK shows but the next best thing is YouTube. And there last evening I was watching Crewlisle and thought what a customer friendly layout out is. Much activity, presentable scenery and it's origins very apparent. There too were a bunch of customers of all ages quite enthralled. Clearly they were being entertained. On the other hand I saw large club type layouts of single track design, few trains running, members fiddling with couplings, quite good scenery but nothing whatsoever to attract the customer, informed or uninformed. It was boring. The members too behind the layout failed to interact with what few customers there were and all wore unwelcoming features-no smiles or even gave the impression that they were enjoying themselves. I do write from experience for when I was in the UK I was a regular exhibitor. I never discouraged people from touching (none ever did any harm), spoke to the customers and always had a train(s) running. Members complain about the lack of new individuals entering the hobby-is it surprising?

John. Thank you, I accept you need a view blocker and that is a clever way to achieve it but I can't fully comprehend how such an elevated railway fits into the overall Granby picture. If it's Rule One-then fair enough. Would however bridges of the kind I mention not work? That is when you had worked your magic in creating another mill on the backscene. Best wishes,

John,yes it was deliberate, but that's the way I see it. Half a "like." I like the idea but not the resolution. I have no problems with a bridge as such but not for that use. I can't see it being provided for rail traffic as coal, as boilers and similar were always on ground floors. But it was not unusual to interconnect adjacent mill buildings and on different floors by bridges for the passage of workers and "stuff" on hand trolleys. They were covered and quite substantial but not in that structural girder form, being more in the nature of covered station footbridges. Can you put a companion mill on that far back side? A bridge(s) would be then very acceptable, I suggest. My regards,

Well,.....maybe the bridge. But the whole scene well done even so.

Al, I was anticipating that question. Really it's a matter of personal choice. I have no great criticism of the product but it seemed flimsy, not as friendly to lay and when all done with painting and ballasting I couldn't see much difference to 100. I've used also without comment Atlas HO code 100. .I'm not too "every detail and to scale" modeller. All I ever seek is the overall impression. To my eye 100 gives me that and as my two recent Hintock and other postings, demonstrate. I do take pains to lay the 100 properly in all respects as what I want with track, whatever it is, is excellent running. Any imperfections in the initial laying I don't put up with-they get promptly sorted.

Andy, you are not alone judging from the above, but (as you know) I lifted and replaced all the code 75 track I originally laid for Port Bredy. Fortunately it came up easily enough as I had used diluted white glue to secure the ballast. I felt a lot happier and the new code 100 went down as I wanted,. Painted and ballasted it looks good-with excellent running. A pain to contemplate but well worth doing.

The S&DR at Port Bredy,1937 Period scene, period picture

Andy, if the railway severed the ownership of land and access to it for that owner was denied by the construction of the railway, the railway company would be required to either pay compensation or provide an accommodation work. If that comprised provide a level crossing then it would be a private crossing, not available to the public at large, and crossing gates to be opened and closed by the owner would suffice. There would be no need of a crossing keeper, signals or signal box. There might however have been a telephone to contact a box about traffic. A "W" sign would be at trackside some short distance away. The same would apply to a public footpath. If there was a public right of way for vehicular traffic then the customary rules would apply.

Nick, no comparison. MM is of one genre, the others another. MM can well stand on its own. My regards,

Earwicker, a pleasant change to see an American railroad-they are rare on here-and UP as well. As you remark too-lots of fun. Have you a thread going? Regards,

Shunting Port Bredy yard, (and still a work in progress.)

Ruston, I couldn't agree more. Plain commonsense as might be expected from the West Riding. Much sense too in the other posts. It's the very point I made in my post #4605. I shall continue to post in colour/b&w/sepia as I consider appropriate to the subject matter. And, and whilst writing this, thank you gentlemen for your interest in my activities. For my future posts if you like it, give me a click, if not, for whatever reason--don't.

CME, it's comments like your most recent ones (and earlier) that always make me think twice before posting on this thread. And, if we have to be judgemental then surely a fair measure of "realism" of any image/model is the number of "likes", or other commendation it receives. Having said that I do not intend to enter in on any further comment-except to say that as as far as my own modelling standards are concerned my Hintock thread and my Hintock website ( www:hintockbranch.com/ see link below ) speak for themselves. Above and below are two examples of work in progress - or realism in the making- on my most recent project-Port Bredy.

Better Andy, it takes a lot of trial and error to get it right. Persistence pays.

Join the CLUB Andy, that's why I stick to "point and shoot" and let the camera do all the clever stuff. All my published images are taken in that manner. They don't look too bad either!

Hintock, 1937

I had to return an item to Hatton's and it cost mr $22.50 which I thought was a lot of money. I inquired if it could be re-funded and it was agreed to without hesitation. More excellent service.

I was introduced to this Kevin, by your comments on AndyP's thread. Only one word for it, two I suppose-a masterpiece. Makes me wonder what I've been doing all this time! Makes me too appreciate the more your "likes". Kindest regards,

Providence River, 1960's American HO

Thanks John, I'll reply to you later, meantime for the spindle containers you could use plastic rod, dowel or the innards of a ball point pen (they're also useful for chimneys) they were painted a bright brown or red, that sticks in my memory, with black lids. Yes, sad in a way to see that in Peston but it was time for it to be swept away, it had had hard use and was worn out. Awful working conditions too. Not all mills were so decrepit. I can remember some fine examples of proud Victorian architecture set in pleasant rural areas or on the edge of a town. Armstrong's books were set in Preston, little did I know when I had read them earlier I would later be working in that and other Lancashire mill towns. Preston too was the setting for Dickens."Hard Times."

John, this subject really piqued my curiosity and I found this site:- http://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2015/01/a-nostalgic-journey-around-the-former-horrocks-yard-works-in-preston/ Towards the end, and the last pictures are two showing what I think, must be spindles. And thus it would seem the drums I recall were used in their carriage. Takes me back a few years to see this pictures of cotton mill Preston.

John, over my lunch I was thinking about this and it's over 50 years ago,but I also recall seeing drum like red containers about 2'0 diameter and 3'0 tall with a black top that lifted off. I think it more likely it was in these the spindles traveled. Winter is still very much present here. We had a heck of a blizzard Sunday. Currently cold and brisk. Warmer weather, however, forecast for later this week.

Magnificent effort there John, and so neatly adapted/finished. As I distantly recall the spindles traveled in tall cardboard boxes. How they were carried/fitted within I've no idea other than that there must have been some form of racking/compartmenting. They weren't heavy, bulky yes.. All I can really remember was seeing, I think, these large boxes/containers scattered around the backside of mills.

Thanks Robin, it's particularly pleasing for an individual like me to view those images as I cannot visit exhibitions and see MM for real. They also show how accomplished a craftsman, Nick is. .

A neat job, and different, well done Martyn.