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A thing of beauty! All of You at Accurascale should be very very proud of your work. Magnificent!

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2 hours ago, Dungrange said:

Out of interest, was there a reason for the range of different liveries on such a small fleet?  Was the yellow stripe meant to signify something different from the red stripe and if so, what?  Similarly, did the entire fleet carry what appears to be the more common BOC livery shown in the many of the photographs in this thread and then some were de-branded later in life, or were the ones without branding always like that?  Similarly, was the BOC Gases a later change in livery that was only applied to a few wagons, like a partial rebranding exercise?  Looking at the photographs above, there are a couple of wagons that look as though they have the same logo variation as the BOC Gases livery but without the word 'Gases', but I'm not sure if that's just another livery variation or I just can't see the word 'Gases' from the angle of the photograph.

 

They are a bit early for my time period, but if any made it into the 21st Century, which livery would be most likely?

Closest I’ve seen to the 21st century was in 1998 on Flickr. A class 56(076) on a rake of Un branded tanks. So tanks BOC04, BOC14 and BOC19.

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Back in stock. 

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1 hour ago, meld said:

BCPM PGA Hoppers, similar as derived from, but very different to HAA. different size hopper, different chassis size .... 

 

Meld

Thanks for that. I’d never seen them before. 
Everyday is a school day!

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Found this video on YouTube. What hoppers are these at 1m10s?

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Thanks for this. Got me one of Kernows Dutch Bachmann Seacow’s (38-131Z). 

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6 hours ago, lyneux said:

 

Come on Mike, it's been too long. We know you want to re-join! 

 

 

Link is here: https://forum.demu.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=TEA_Cryogenic. Mike is right, the wiki is members-only.

 

The wiki page has been a collaboration by members to share information with several members contributing their own photos and research on these wagons to build as complete a picture as we can of the detail differences.

 

I think the short answer is: study pictures of the wagon that you want to model as there are lots of detail differences.

 

Guy

 

 

Ah ok. No problem. Thanks for getting back to me.
I must say,  It’s a shame the tanks aren’t as bang on as I’d previously thought. Most reviews I’ve seen are quite favourable. Perhaps it needs a keen, ‘knowledgeable’ eye to really see the errors. I’ll sit down and compare models with photographs, to see what I can can spot. 
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2 hours ago, lyneux said:

Sadly, I don’t think they (whoever did the research for this wagon) knew as it turns out that the tank barrel is a mixture of features from the three different styles that existed.

 

For example, it has discs on the upper body side (correct for some of the wagons) but only on one side and not both.

 

I’ve done a full write up on the DEMU wiki of the detail differences.

 

My four will take a bit of carving of plastic to get right!

 

Guy

That’s very interesting Guy. Would you be so kind as to provide a link for said write up? I’ve tried to have a look for it but can’t seem to find it. 
Many thanks in anticipation.

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1 hour ago, APOLLO said:

 

Sorry chaps, don't know what happened there. The link was definite when I posted as I checked it again right after posting. Yes none showing now - what's happening at Hattons ?

 

Brit15

Yes, what is happening at Hattons? Failing to arrange a jolly good knees up in a Brewery comes to mind at the moment!

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1 hour ago, APOLLO said:

 

2 x BOC 05

1 X BOC 12

1 X BOC 17

 

Ordered Friday 20th at 8pm (not Sunday as I said - that was something else). They arrived yesterday, 24th, Royal Mail tracked.

 

Brit15

Ok mate. Cheers for that. Between my mate and myself we received those wagons too.
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1 hour ago, Opelsi said:

I ordered mine (6 x yellow strip oxygen) within an hour or so of the add going up and they arrived Friday whilst I was out. Only collected them yesterday morning from the Post Office, happily I got the full consignment.

Hope that helps.

I note the comments above and think it very possible the Olivia's may well release more of these to Hatton's given the differing price point and apparent difference in rate of sales.

Hope everyone can get what they want!

It was suggested to Hattons that IF there was a possibility of obtaining more stock from Olivias, before putting them on general sale, give those that have had their orders  unfulfilled first refusal. The reaction left me feeling the suggestion had fallen on deaf ears.
Fingers crossed it all works out one way or another. 
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7 minutes ago, APOLLO said:

I suppose I'm lucky, ordered four Sunday and got them today. They are nice models, to me a tad expensive at £45 - no way worth £75 - but that is just my opinion. They had tons of them on Friday, several showing 10+ stock, I'm surprised they all went so quickly.

 

Brit15

 

 

Can I ask what BOC numbers you got mate? 
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3 hours ago, Carl BR said:

Well out of my order of eight with Hatton's my package landed today with just three and no stock left in the warehouse. Apparently the problem was their computer system thinking there was more than what was really in stock.

I'm going to have to research what I can do with just the three I have received. I'm open to ideas in the form of photo's with these tankers thrown in to other wagon rakes.

 

Cheers people. 

Yes, the same thing happened to me and my mate. My order from Thursday evening is missing BOC 02. Yet it was on sale all Friday and Saturday. My mates order of BOC 08 and BOC 16 ordered Friday morning  has failed to appear and upon enquiring (at what point were they going to let him know?) learned that neither wagon is going to arrive. Again these were still available on Saturday. I was suspicious as one minute some were not available then all of a sudden more than 10 were available. An absolute mess up with the ordering system that has left us not too pleased at all. 
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These look so good. I will definitely be pre ordering the 4 lots of 2,  Was hoping for more than 8 different ECC wagons but like mentioned, if popular, another batch will come fairly soon after, so I can achieve a 15/16 rake. Good luck with these guys.
Edit: CDA’s Pre Ordered

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2 hours ago, SHerr said:

I presume it was BOC20 you were looking for? I bought 1 at 23-40 and invoice says more than 10 in stock so obviously someone had followed on with a whole rake.  I suppose that makes sense it’s a £300 saving on a rake of 10.
 

 Just hoping no issue with their ordering system!

Yes mate, BOC20. But all is well as they’ve found another stash of these tanks and I’ve managed to add onto my order BOC16. The same Red stripe tank, Nitrogen with GPS bogies.

You can’t blame them for buying them all. The price is that good. Either re number using the transfer sheet (£6) or if you want, sell on at a profit. T

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Disappearing in front of my eyes before I can purchase them! They won’t hang around long at that price. Like has already been said, no way was I going to purchase at £75, but £45 is a whole different ball game. 
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4 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Depends on the price tag and an individuals guts on cutting into a model that could see that amount written off.

I think its harder to goto from a 104 a 110 than it is to go from a 110 to a 104. Depending how close Hornby and Heljans body profiles are, you may get away with lobbing the front off one onto the other, with luck even the yellow cab may not even need painting.

 

There’s the 110 window frames as well. Is it easier to add the frames to a 104 or take frames away from a 110? Either way, it’s not easy. I’ll stick with my Hornby 110 bodies on modified Bachmann 108 chassis’s. And wait patiently. To me it would be a logical progression for Heljan. 
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On 07/11/2020 at 15:36, Taigatrommel said:

Will we see modellers converting them to 110s in a reverse of the fate many Hornby units had?

A really solid choice, and very welcome.  The Bachmann 117 got me back into DMU modelling, this announcement makes it even more fun.

It will be interesting to see if 104’s are converted to 110’s. In fact, I’m kind of hoping that a few years down the line, we may see a 110 following on from Heljan?

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Oh yeah baby! I have waited a long time for some of these.

My favourite Heritage DMU. I loved how utterly clapped out they were. Exhaust rasp, windows and fittings vibrating like mad. Wonderful! 
Like others, I thought I might eventually see this from the Barwell lot, but if they do as good a job on the 104 like they did with the 128, I’ll be happy.
Initial thoughts were this is going to be expensive as I’ll have the white stripe, The Blue and Grey and the NSE flashes 2 car. Sadly after doing a bit of investigating,  the white stripe set is too early for me. The Blue and Grey set became the Mexican bean, so again too early for me. So it’s just the 2 car NSE Flash set. Would have liked a 2/3 car bog standard blue (without head code), but I suppose it will come in the future. Great news this! 
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 I want 008 like that with no headlight as from October 1986.

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Superb. Look forward to seeing these! 
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Like lots more on here, I didn’t pre order.I Was just going to wait until they were released. If I had known that to obtain one, you had to pre order, I would have done.

I agree that if Hattons felt they were struggling for numbers to make the project work, they could have made it known on here and in Model Magazines. 
I’m very disappointed and hope Hattons reconsider allowing further pre orders. 
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4 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I've asked this question elsewhere, but what is so wrong with the re-tooled Hornby wagon that would make you want to spend more money on a new entrant to the market?, it's a choice only you can make.

 

Mike.

To be honest, ignoring the incorrect buffers, I thought the updated MGR was alright. 
I still do TBH. I’ll wait to see both arrive and make my decision then.

Definitely going to update my future Cornish layout (One day I will get around to it) ECC CDA’s though. Hornby’s attempt at the retractable roof is woeful. 
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I was delighted with this wagon coded HAA. I just removed the canopy and distributor, and voila, I had another red frame HAA to add to the rake................

Then Cavalex came and put the cat among the pigeons. I suddenly had a big decision to make. Then Accurascale joined in. Double trouble. Do I stick with the Hornby’s? Go Cavalex or Accurascale? I think I shall wait to see how wowed I am by both newbies. Then decide. 
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5 hours ago, Scottish-Exile said:

DMSL 55775 (142 079) departed Swansea Landore this afternoon en-route to the razor blade factory. The DMS (55729) along with 142 012 will be joining it tomorrow.

 

What on Earth has happened to that BSI coupler? 
It makes me very sad to see these like this. I’m pretty sure I have had my last drive of a 142 or a 144. I didn’t get to savour either, as at the time I had no idea it would be my last. My last 142 drive was 004. Man Victoria - Leeds.
My last 144 drive was 006. Huddersfield - Bradford - Huddersfield. 
Lots of people couldn’t stand them. I loved them. 
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