Mark Saunders

The plant at Ferrybridge was still there but moribund when I was last in the coal plant when they were removing the coal stocks by rail!
 

And flat S

The LNER special diagram and wagon numbers, for bolster B.

For those wanting appropriate light locomotive head codes for light locomotives returning to or moving between depots. 

… and for you it’s out of the question!

1 hour ago, D7063 said:

 

Having a problem discharging your hoppers? Stone-Wallwork has the answer!!!!

Better known as a "wagon shaker".

For those of us old enough there was always great concern from politicians about the balance of trade but it’s never mentioned now!

The decline was covered using invisible earnings from financial dealings!

1 hour ago, martin_wynne said:

Phase 2 back on track?

 

 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1858019/HS2-revived-private-finance

 

 

Sounds more like, seconds out round two of the arguments!

Mine arrived today, a very good model!

7 hours ago, Will Crompton said:

Looking at pictures of wagon repair depots and sidings both existing and closed one finds a variety of cranes depicted at these sites including rail mounted cranes, gantry cranes and even road cranes such as this one in a photo of Blyth Cambois TMD by John Reay.

 

This picture clearly shows a wheelset being lifted as described by answers to a question I asked in an earlier thread -

Were/are cranes ever used to lift wagons up to allow wheel sets to be changed or were/are wagons raised up on jacks to allow this? I wonder as I have seen photos of steam locomotives being lifted by a gantry crane at a depot. Also were another bits of heavy kit, other than wheelsets, moved using cranes at wagon repair depots/sidings?

This was not a BR C&W repair but Wagon Repairs using the siding to wheel exchange on an Alcan hired wagon!

1 minute ago, jjb1970 said:

 

Indeed, my comment was aimed at the approach of WCRC to risk management, they strike me as conflating the two concepts. They clearly could have fitted CDL long ago if they wanted to comply.

Its not that long ago there was vast amounts of Central Door Locking equipment in scrap yards but I doubt much was recovered!

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

 How this left any incentive to customers to order new wagons is unclear to me. 

The incentive was guaranteed hire by the Government which I understand several took advantage of!

Nothing travels faster than bad news and good news doesn’t sell newspapers!

From memory without checking, it’s the former VDA that became the generator van for the Skako ballast delivery train which are the hoppers next to it rather than auto hoppers!

Found the photo' of the one at Leeming Bar in the BP livery that it was withdrawn from mainline use in before going into internal use at BP Grangemouth before initially entering preservation at Bowness.

In this there is confusion between the postwar Carbon Dioxide tanks and the prewar Ethanol tanks (industrial alcohol). The Hornby rtr tank is the former Airfix rtr one and they remained in traffic till the early 1970’s but in BP use after the Hull plant was sold to them; the last remaining tank is now at Leeming Bar on the Wensleydale Railway,

On 12/01/2024 at 11:30, Hroth said:

 

Don't try this in an Austin 7.  The track width is remarkably similar to the gauge, and with the skinny tyres, its possible for the tramline to take control....

 

Or so I'm told!

 

Time to watch Genevieve again or at least the last five minutes!

3 hours ago, Suzy Sulzer said:

A 22ton IRON ORE wagon ,yes its duplicated by other RTR manufacturers . But so is the 16t mineral wagon.

Do you mean the Charles Roberts design 22 ton hopper that was produced prewar as a Private Owner and later by BR as the diagram 1/161 ironstone hopper later uprated to 24 ton as dia'1/162?

The current offering dates back to Mainline and has only evolved by the use of a different chassis as the are too long on a 17'6"  chassis with 10' wheelbase rather than 16'6" with 9' wheelbase.

The body is too narrow and sits on a paving stone!

On 10/01/2024 at 13:40, Steamport Southport said:

Wasn't the Hornby version going to be the type with lever brakes as opposed to DC type though?

 

https://uk.Hornby.com/community/blog-and-news/engine-shed/streamlined-salmon-wagon

 

Missed opportunity I feel.

 

 

Jason

Hornby seem to specialise in this, failing to grasp the potential of their models especially wagon chassis that have been reused!

The topic title caused me to ignore it till I received an Email from the LT Museum to realise this is a new model and deserves better publicity!

56 minutes ago, Northmoor said:

In my experience, if you really want to protect the next generation from a demographic with a much greater proportion of very weird people, keep them away from football matches.

 

I will confidently predict that in 30 years, the railway modelling hobby will be alive, thriving......... and different.

However the debate about modern image will still not be settled!

41 minutes ago, phil-b259 said:

 

Not much different is the REAL answer!

 

The inhabitants of the Chilterns were not going to suddenly turn around and drop their opposition even if it was built as a 100mph 'conventional' railway as you put it so tunnelling would still be needed.

 

Moreover the purpose of said 'conventional' railway (to provide relief to the WCML) wouldn't change so to achieve that aim you would still want no stations and a nice gentle alignment.

 

The savings in terms of making HS2 more like a 'conventional' railway are thus mainly in the fit out stage where you can alter things like OLE to be cheaper and not in building the railway formation (which is all that HS2 has been doing so far)

Buy cheap buy twice and have all the problems that are associated with it, just look at the East Coast masts north of Colton and those west on the Church Fenton extension.

On 09/01/2024 at 09:41, Miss Prism said:

 

The Bachmann one is available.

 

You mean the Mainline one with newer style couplings!

2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Are these photos dated? The Bell Brothers one is evidently pre-1923, being marked N.E.R.

BR were still using pregouping companies on instructions till well into the 60’s.

The up and down midland at Leeds only gained the names in the 1990’s modernisation & resignalling.

These were one of the early all steel 20 ton hoppers but I expect that they didn't survive in mainline use post war and there were examples at Millom and Workington postwar.