Bob83a

Is anyone else having the issue with the app where the Hornby logo is just a grey panel on every profile in the list and also the background of all the TTS profiles has gone black.

i have tried multiple devices, iPad 15.8 and 17.4 and Android 12 and am getting the same result.

Problem just seems to be displaying the profile list.

1 hour ago, Michanglais said:

I've just received a TT HST power car pack and want to add Bluetooth decoders (with sound) in each power car. 

 

The advice given is to set the power cars up as a 'Consist'. However, I can't find consisting in the HM7000 app. 

 

Could someone point me in the right direction or do I have to set up a consist on my NCE powercab and then just use the appropriate address(es) in the app?

 

Cheers,

Michael

 

At present the App cannot handle consists. You can however use the App to configure a consist which you can then use with your DCC command station.

see CV 119 which assists in configuring function for a consist.

However you must power your layout using a DCC system and not just a power supply.

6 hours ago, Hesperus said:

Really pleased to see some progress with Vivarails plans, this has been a long time coming.

 

Just a minor point but it seems silly to run these between service trains rather than just use them as the service trains.  If one breaks down it'll still stop the service on the branch until its recovered.  

The Greenford branch is double track throughout except for the terminus stations so a failed train will not block the line entirely.

Answering my own questions. ECS trials seem to have started last Thursday 29th Feb, but all were cancelled on Friday. But some ran today, and 4 trips seem to be scheduled tomorrow 5th.

See RealTimeTrains for schedule, TOC is SO (Rail Adventure).

Seems to run in between the normal class 165 service train trips.

One of the Class 230 battery powered units has made it to the EMU sidings next to Plasser & Theurer, that forms part of the triangle junction at the southern end of the Greenford branch. Has the testing on the branch started or does anyone know when they will enter service.

Is there a reason why Hornby have not released profiles for the TTS chips installed in R6888TTS or R6925TTS I.e the Vans with no motors, or have I missed them somehow.

Now that profiles are available for TTS decoders are available, so that you can control these loco’s via the dongle, are Hornby going to do the same for their earlier sound decoders (Loksound) that were released in models that had the XS suffix.

Just now, E100 said:

 

Sorry, could you please elaborate what is meant by 'TTS function profiles'. I presume this isn't simply a straight transfer of TTS profile's?

It means that the app will have the correct icon’s and labels for the function buttons for loco’s withs TTS decoders installed. Obviously you cannot load sounds to a TTS decoder or control it via Bluetooth. You will be able to configure loco and then control it thru one of the Dongles to an Elite/Select (or other DCC controllers that implement Xpressnet and have a RJ12 connection)

23 minutes ago, meatloaf said:

https://d63oxfkn1m8sf.cloudfront.net/5117/0540/1488/Available_Profiles_for_HM_DCC_16-1-2024.pdf

Problem with this link is that it is for a specifically dated version of the list and is already out of date.

4 minutes ago, chriswright03 said:

Have you a link for this list please?  When I look on the web site none of the new stuff is mentioned at all.  I accept it could be a cookie problem my end of course.

List is first item under profile maps
 

https://uk.Hornby.com/hm7000/hm-dcc-guides

there are also all the important docs

Having profiles for the TTS decoders is a great addition.

6 hours ago, The Meerkat said:

what  i mean is say for example my class 66 is number 1 and his tank engine is number 1 as well,  as long as i dont run both together, i can just press number 1 on tablet and it will work?

You would have the class 66 on your app, as long as only the 66 was on the track then no problem. Take the 66 off and out the tank on then you would be controlling the tank from the app but with 66 lights and sounds, but if only the tank is controlled from the DCC system then no problem. But with both 66 and the tank on the track then both of you will be controlling both locos.

7 hours ago, The Meerkat said:

 

oh right nice,   even if they share same DCC address or doesn't that matter?

You cannot share DCC addresses, unless you are configuring a consist.

consider the dongle as a handset connected to your DCC controller. You cannot control two decoders with the same address and expect to use separate handset to control each one. 

The dongle is just a dumb device that simply converts the Bluetooth communication to serial as used by xpressnet. It does not record anything about the DCC devices being controlled.

The only thing it needs is to be paired with the phone/tablet etc running the app.
 

by the way the club adapter which allows two connections to the same DCC controller is just two sockets wired together, with a single plug.  You can plug several of them together so that you can multiple phones/tablets connected to the single DCC controller. The limit is partially down to the amount of power required by the collection of dongles which needs to be provided by the DCC controllers xpressnet port.

By DCC controller I mean a Select or Elite, but could be any controller that supports Hornby’s version of the protocol.

Are these arriving soon. Project status predicted delivery in Dec 23 or Jan 24 but also says still in the final stages of production.

At present the app does not handle consists. It does not use the DCC address, either short or long to control the decoders, it uses the decoder name, the HM7000- followed by 4 characters, so cannot currently control two nor more decoders at the same time.

you can set the Hst with the same DCC address at both ends and control it using a DCC controller. You should be able to use the app thru a dongle to control it when they become available.

Check out CV119 when consisting a train with multiple decoders, HST, IET etc, which can be used to enable sounds at the front of the train only, I.e. horn sound only on the leading loco/driving car.

I am not complaining about the delay, it will just get sent when they can. But putting numbers on the number of days which have no context does annoy.

it has always annoyed me that suppliers are sending emails about items shipping when actually what they mean is that the package has been put in the corner to be collected by the courier, this could well be the next working day. So it has not actually physically shipped.

Even worse is the notification that an item has shipped but when you read the small print it says that the order has been passed to the warehouse, and then it might not be picked and passed to the courier for a couple of days.

I assume that they are talking working days, but even making that assumption some orders are taking more than 5 days.

I have an order placed before the start of business last Friday, so only a couple of hours left of the 6th working day.

44 minutes ago, The Meerkat said:

hi all,  

 

did i read right that the dongle is march?

Hornby web site says Winter 23-24 so should be Feb.

3 hours ago, RAF96 said:

Latest sound profile listing here ...

https://uk.Hornby.com/community/forum/latest-sound-profile-status-367898?ccm_paging_p=1#end-of-replies

For the last couple of quarters the schedule was included amongst the Profile Function Lists,  in the main HM7000 documentation.

it was a downloadable file that you could download and print. 
 

this link takes you to a forum entry that is being edited and bumped, and I cannot find any easy way to print it.

please put the schedule back in a fixed location that you do not have to search for.

38 minutes ago, RAF96 said:

 

@Bob83a and @Kris The new list of profiles will be announced soon (see Hornby.com forum). It will have the much requested Class 20, a DMU or two, as well as Lion and as seen in the International range catalogue TXS will also be supporting international locos.

Class 20 would be good, and a 153 DMU. And then there are the GWR steamers.

Don’t see any new profiles announced nor pre-fitted models with new profiles in the 2024 announcement.

so it looks like we just have the 14 profiles already scheduled for Q1 and 3 for Q2 with nothing after that. I would think that 14 new profiles in a single quarter is probably more than Hornby can actually manage. (This is based on the 21/2/23 schedule).

i was expecting Hornby to announce profiles for new tooling or re-releases of existing tooling but new profile announcements may be part of Hornby additional announcements thru the year.

Class 67 profile has been released, no function list yet.

Class 60 and 2MT for OO and both the Class 43 for TT still to come before the end of the year if they stick to the schedule published 4/10.

1 hour ago, Pmorgancym said:

Seems odd as it does create the impression of stagnation..

There are 5 sound profiles scheduled before the end of the year. There are 11 more scheduled for the 1st quarter next year and 3 for the second quarter, split over the two scales TT and OO. Some of those scheduled for the 1st quarter slipped from the previously released schedules, so some could possibly slip again to even out the schedule. The current schedule is available on the Hornby site and is dated 4/10/23.

Plus there are updates to many of the existing profiles to bring them up to version 3 or 1.3 depending on which version numbering system they are using.

i would suggest that more profiles will be announced in January along with new releases. I don’t think that is stagnation.

so far according to the app there are already 31 profiles available in the last 12 months.

It appears that Hornby are a little confused about the manual version, the front page of the latest version says Version 1.3 but every page has a footer which says it is version R1.2.0. Page 2 also says it is 1.3 or 1.3.0.

But it does refer to decoder version 1.3.0 not v3 as RAF96 says but that is probably just a matter of interpretation of Hornby version numbering.