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  1. David Element
    The chimneys of the early versions of the model appeared to be out of proportion to those of the prototypes (taller and of a smaller diameter). If you compare the photographs of the earlier and later versions of the models against those of the prototypes: https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/WD-and-Standard-locomotives/ST-BR-Standard-3MT-2-6-2T/i-Djjf4Wd/A and the earlier version of the model with the latest examples shown at Warley, you will see what I mean. Allowances need to be made for perspective, and the types of lenses used when taking the photographs, so what one sees on a computer screen can be misleading: https://railsofsheffield.com/cdn/shop/products/82029_2_822a7747-1bae-4b5e-b4c7-c93bac60a0f9_900x.png?v=1679331117. The proportions look to be spot-on in the latest photographs. This appears to be a very good model indeed.
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    The Warley display models look fantastic - the issue with the chimney shape appears to have been resolved.
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    The new Class 73/1 model is superb, it looks great, and it runs beautifully (I have only used DC) but there are two issues that perhaps need to be mentioned. Firstly, the buckeye couplings are situated at a different height from those attached to Lionheart coaches, so the locomotive cannot be securely coupled to them (the draw-hooks are virtually impossible to access for practical purposes with a three-link coupling). Now I don't know which couplings are at the correct height, but there perhaps ought to be some standardisation agreed between manufacturers, particularly as modellers are likely to have invested quite a lot of money when buying their rolling stock from more than one source. The other issue is the (lack of) clarity of the instructions for attaching a decoder and sound system. The colour images of the decoder and the inside of the body-shell on the inserted leaflet in particular have been printed at such a small scale that it is impossible to see any details properly (remember the ages of most potential owners!), so it would be very helpful if on-line assistance could be provided in the form of larger (and better lit) illustrations so that the pins may be seen clearly, and with sequential, clear, instructions about how and exactly where to connect the ESU LokSound VS XL decoder to the EM2 speaker wires. Not all purchasers will be experts in DCC, or indeed be experienced in performing fiddly soldering tasks, and I for one, do not wish to destroy my new decoder. A better option still would be for Heljan to sell sound-equipped models at a higher price - given the ready availability of sound-equipped models elsewhere, I think that you might have missed a trick here. This model has undeniably set a new benchmark for Heljan to live up to!    

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    2. David Element

      David Element

      Thank you - these are issues that might affect other purchasers, so it is not inappropriate to draw attention to them.

    3. AY Mod

      AY Mod

      @David Element - it means that Ben may not notice it. You would have been better sending a private message where a notification goes to his email inbox.

    4. David Element

      David Element

      Thank you for the advice - much appreciated! I have sent Ben a private message.

  4. David Element
    Richard, As you may already be aware, I am keen to model one of these superb models as either No. 82019 or 82029 in late BR condition. Having checked the shed allocations, I am now working on the presumption that it might be most straightforward to convert the model of No. 82010 to No. 82019 simply by changing the number as 82010 would have been allocated to Nine Elms when withdrawn in 1965, and therefore equipped with Southern Region brackets. However, before making an adjustment to my existing order for an unnumbered model in late BR condition, I was wondering if you could confirm that the unnumbered version has SR lamp brackets (the Hattons web site implies that the unnumbered version will be identical to the late BR version of No. 82010). Will shed-plates be attached, and will they be 70A plates for Nine Elms? I am still unclear about the accuracy of the chimney, as there may have been more than one type attached - photographs indicate that some locomotives had taller, narrower chimneys than others. Will these details be clarified before these models are put on sale? Is a second run anticipated for this model?
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    To the best of my recollection, the last two Nine Elms-based Standard Class 3MT tanks Nos. 82019 and 82029 were sometimes used to haul the four car Kenny Belle between Clapham Junction and Olympia at the end of SR steam - along with BR Standard Class 4MT tanks and Ivatt 2MT tanks (Nos. 41284 - withdrawn earlier than the other three, 41298, now running in modified form on the IOW, 41312, and 41319). So these two 3MT tanks, in late BR livery, would have been seen by many train-spotters, and perhaps have been more popular if modelled in this livery as they are more likely to be remembered in this form than with the lion and wheel insignia (the later emblem would have been my personal preference). The BR Standards and Ivatts would have mainly been used for hauling empty coaching stock in the area between Waterloo and Clapham Junction Yard, and most were by this time filthy and usually lacking their smokebox number plates. Most on-line films and photographs (some in colour) seem to illustrate either No. 41319 or No. 82019 being used for the Kenny Belle. Not all of the listed locomotives will necessarily have hauled this service, but I recall being given a footplate ride on No. 82029 on this duty. I would echo the request for Lionheart to consider producing the Ivatt 2MT tank (with all chimney variations) as these are popular locomotives, they would complement the BR Standard Class 3MT tanks, there is a gap in the O gauge market for a high quality model, one suitable for use on smaller layouts, and the relatively short Kenny Belle would make an excellent subject to model.
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    Certainly 82029 was missing the two middle brackets (the lower two on the smokebox door) in (some) photographs. 82019 possessed the full set, but this wasn't one of the NE transferred locomotives. Update - there are two photographs of No. 82029 with a full set of brackets on page 108 of John Bird's 'Southern Steam Sunset '67', so it would appear that they must have been fitted later. This book also indicates that the locomotive would have been allocated to Nine Elms when the photographs were taken in July 1967.
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    A question for Richard - I want to portray either 82019 or 82029 in late BR condition, so with the late BR emblem (I dare say most other observers would remember the last two active members of this Class in this condition). There are good photographic references on line. Are the unnumbered models likely to be correct for SR with brackets, etc.? If not, I may need to change my order for one of the early numbered BR versions and replace the emblem (I presume that a using cocktail stick won't damage the paintwork). I agree that 82029 had larger numbers (10 inch rather than 9, I believe) and there appear to have been chimney variations judging from photographs. The decorated models look fantastic!
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