Chris Bowden

Could anybody please advise me where I might find an outline diagram for great central coach diagrams 5G4 and 5M2 or any other info on these two? many thanks Chris Bowden

Could anybody please advise me where I might find an outline diagram for great central coach diagrams 5G4 and 5M2 or any other info on these two? many thanks Chris Bowden

Recent pictures on RMB of Great Central Kitchen cars has inspired me to build one of the later survivors in 4mm. Although etched sides are available they relate to the condition of 5M2 prior to conversion from Restaurant Cars in 1935. Similarly Hugh Longworths book also has a diagram of the earlier condition and refers also to 5G4 for which I find no diagram picture. Does 5G4 refer to the post 1935 diagram and if so where could I find a drawing?

Recent pictures on RMB of Great Central Kitchen cars has inspired me to build one of the later survivors in 4mm. Although etched sides are available they relate to the condition of 5M2 prior to conversion from Restaurant Cars in 1935. Similarly Hugh Longworths book also has a diagram of the earlier condition and refers also to 5G4 for which I find no diagram picture. Does 5G4 refer to the post 1935 diagram and if so where could I find a drawing?

the 4mm Coach by Stephen Williams Part 2 (Wild Swan 20000 ISBN 9781874103615) I have been searching for months for this book on the internet worldwide as well as all the usual sources. Even those few libraries that have a copy of Part 2 refuse to lend it. Any suggestions? Chris Bowden the 4mm Coach by Stephen Williams Part 2 (Wild Swan 20000 ISBN 9781874103615) I have been searching for months for this book on the internet worldwide as well as all the usual sources. Even those few libraries that have a copy of Part 2 refuse to lend it. Any suggestions? Chris Bowden

Hi Jason looks like there was no part three but if you know of a part 2 for sale (or even on loan) please email me christopher.bowden@mypostoffice.co.uk. the 4mm Coach by Stephen Williams Part 2 (Wild Swan 20000 ISBN 9781874103615) I have been searching for months for this book on the internet worldwide as well as all the usual sources. Even those few libraries that have a copy of Part 2 refuse to lend it. Any suggestions? Chris Bowden

The Model Railway Constructor has drawings of the 50ft Great central Clerestory Coaches in issue April 1969. hope this helps, Chris Bowden

Yes I recall the MRC issue with the centre pages "the Plans Page" for the GCR 50ft Clerestory Coach but cannot find my copy.....However of related interest see Railway Modeller November 1968. The diagram is 3K1 with a drawing in "British Railways Pre-Nalisation Coaching Stock Vol. 1. Also see British Railway Journal - No. 32 Summer 1990 - Wild Swan Publications hope this helps. Chris The Model Railway Constructor has drawings of the 50ft Great central Clerestory Coaches in issue April 1969. hope this helps, Chris Bowden

Thanks for your posting Bill. Looking again at the photo I posted, there does appear to be some sort of trunking along the uppermost length on both coaches. regards Chris

Hi, thanks for your posting. Is it possible to give a little more details of which CAM Camwell DVD contails this cliip and where I might bu a copy. Thanks Chris

Thanks again to Simon and Alastair. I am settled now on d 3K1 to form set with E51904. Have you any ideas as to where I might find a roof top diagram for both so I can see the arrangement of the push pull gear.?

Thanks to Simon and Alastair. I agree that the Clerestory in the picture is Dia 3K1. and Bill Bedford will get an order shortly in 4mm and hopefully he will have the driving trailer also. the caption in Scenes from the past is misleading as it quotes the number and dia of a non Clerestory vehicle which was later the companion to E51904E previous to which the Clerstory D 3k1 was as per picture I guess that the photo with the Clerstory would have been about 1954 as the legend on the trailer states Manchester London Road., probably displaced from the Glossop Hadfied service after electrification?