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Which equates to 2743.2mm.

Am I missing something here but 9'0" at 4mm to the foot should be 9*4 which was 36 when I went to school.

Right, got it, you have converted feet to millimeters. Doh!

The fact that the MJT ends are the same width as the Hornby body is quite interesting This means that either the Hornby VEP is actually too wide, or that the Lima Mk1 was too narrow - at one point I know what my money would have been on, but I'm not so sure now!

The HMRS BR Mk1 book quotes a width over sides of 9'0"

A quick question, Folks.

 

Has anyone had experience of using / seeing the Southern Pride Emu cast ends and gangways ?.

Are they made to their own design ?, or do they supply MJT's ?.

 

Thanks, in advance.

Modified MJT.

Just to add fuel to the debate, the MJT ends were designed to match a Lima coach to which etched sides had been added and as a result are probably too wide. I probably adjusted the window positions to suit but it was so long ago I cannot remember ;-) I do recall measuring one up and had a couple of attempts to get a casting that pleased me.

These pre-production samples are likely to be on display at Model Rail Live so if anyone is in a position to take some detailed photos????????

How simple or strenuous a job is it, in reality? (Not committing to it myself - just out of curiosity!)

Off the top of my head you would have to remove and replace the trussing and probably move the battery boxes, then remove both inner bogies and replace with one articulated joint in conjunction with one of the removed bogies. Might possibly have to cut away the buffer beams on the inner ends. At this stage I do not know if Hornby have produced the trussing supplied and battery boxes as a separate moulding which obviously would make removal easier. The hardest part is producing the articulated joint for both the inner bogie and the coaches. Once I get my hands on some actual coaches, I will certainly be looking into the possibilities but suspect with the speed I move, Coachmann will get there first!

One of the problems is what point in time should a particular model represent? Fortunately Hornby seem to have a policy of issuing revised running numbers each year so any error, with luck and appropriate advice, will be corrected next time around.

As an aside, I wonder who will be the first to attempt/publish an articulated pair once they are released.

Hopefully Hornby will re-think the numbers before going into production.

I suspect these are production paint jobs so unlikely.

The good news is some all-firsts were converted into composites. Simply paint some seats blue and add the appropriate insignia.

Or coupled with full thirds as a D242 Artic Twin. Perhaps not so daft after all!

I agree it is a poor choice - I would have much preferred a brake composite or even a non-gangwayed full brake. The other three types will allow lots of prototypical formations to be modelled. A basic formation of BT-CL-BT was common, supplemented by Thirds where necessary.

I did try and persuade them to drop the 1st and substitute a full brake however they presumably felt that the 1st would be more popular. Given they are producing a corridor full brake this year who is to say they will not add one in a future year if these sell well.

Here's the last lot of pictures I have of the teak versions, enjoy.

Enjoy is an understatement. You have done us proud.

Mike

Here the rest of pictures taken yesterday, they only had 4 coaches in both sets displayed.

Again thanks for taking the trouble to upload them. Much appreciated. First time I have seen liveried samples.

Mike - Hope this is what you are looking for

No, but I am not complaining. The BG is the Gresley Corridor Full Brake which may not be sufficiently advanced to display yet.

I know I might be biased, but those suburbans sure look good.

Hornby had these on show at the Great Dorset Steam Fair this week.

Thanks for the photos. Was the BG in evidence as well by any chance?

For the suburbans Hornby's paint specification states "Crimson".

Tell them at the start you are on the TPS and will be recording the conversation. Ask for their name and company, then listen to them hanging up very quickly.

Is it me, or does Hooters sound like it might be a little "risque" ?

Trust me, it is very family friendly. I have always gone with a mixed group including my daughter who thoroughly enjoyed it. I would take my Grandparents without hesitation.

I mentioned going off peak. The following photo was as a result of us asking our waitress for a photo of her with my son. Her reply was "just me, or all the girls"? How could we refuse

A lot depends on what you find interesting. Colonial Photography is well worth a visit especially if there are any American products you are after.

The following have all proved enjoyable on previous visits:

Walmart is a must (Kissimee branch takes some beating).

Kissimee street cruise in the Old Town on Saturday night

Michaels's Art and Craft

Hooters!

Orlando Church Street Station area with lunch in Mary's Bar and Grill

Winter Gardens (nice unspoilt town with small railroad museum)

Hooters!

Seaworld

Kennedy Space Centre and Astronaut Hall of Fame.

Hooters!

Florida Air Museum.

Florida Mall

Orlando Outlet Centre

Dairy Queen

Publix Supermarket (if you are self catering)

Did I mention Hooters? Great if you have a party member who has a birthday (let your waitress know). Best if you can visit off peak. Don't be frightened to ask for a photo with the waitresses. Lake Buena Vista

branch good fun.

Enjoy!

What make are the Silver Jubilee kits please?

I'm sadly not allow to enter this one

Shame. At the risk of giving you a big head I find your work truly inspirational so I would have been interested in seeing what you came up with.

I am a BIG fan of Tim's work, both his modelling and his FastTracks products, or which I am a very satisfied customer. His construction videos are well worth watching irrespective of whether you use his tools or not.

Not only are the products of exceptional quality, but his general speed of delivery across the pond is second to none. He even offered to produce custom tools for me.

I also noted his comment regarding Canadian's celebrating the introduction of 24 pack beer packs and thought I had mis-heard him!

Mickler, I thought it should carry Kitchen Car and not Restaurant Car.

Official photos show "Restaurant Car". I don't recall ever seeing Kitchen Car in LNER days.

Those fan vents on the restaurant cars are typically modelled incorrectly as they rarely show in photographs. Attached for everyone's benefit is a drawing of them. Enjoy.

FanVent.pdf

Well, I think that answers the question and thank you to all. I would therefore suppose this diemsnsion were also common across all the LNER angle truss underframes, such as those on the articulated stock.

Possibly not. It depends on the length of the articulated underframe.

One other related question which now occurs to me - was the distance between queenposts on a earlier truss-rod 51' underframe 10' as it was on the 60' underframe.

For the 60'0" underframe it is 10'0" between centres of the truss posts. For 51'0" I have a dimension of 8'7". From memory the battery boxes are the same length but the gap between the end of the battery box and truss post is different.

For an early welded underframe it is shown as 9'6.25" between posts on the drawing.

The riveted underframe shows 9'6" between upper cross members which allowing for the thickness of the steel angle section would result in around 9'6.25" for the riveted as well.

have heard stories of Farish and Dapol locos and wagons not running

The problem with Atlas track is the clasps that hold the rail in place can foul older pizza cutter wheels. Modern Farish and Dapol have a finer flange so should not cause a problem. The flange clearances are based on NMRA standards which are finer than UK being based on a large back to back dimension for the wheels. So you either increase the back to back, or channel out the groove as you have.

Must say I am impressed with the Silver Jubilee train of coaches. Also the Hornby 'Great Northern' adaption. I always liked these A3's with the round dome, so did Hornby ever produce this variant in BR green? The trouble for me converting a 'GN' is I'd have to lower the cab and respray over the LNER green livery to BR - which is such a shame.

Great to see you back on your feet Coach.

Is this any use: Hornby Ladas