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  1. Hi

    Can I on behalf of the Signalling Record Society whose stand I organise thank the whole team who organised and run the recent Warley show. The whole process was exemplary - great communication and assistance from Duncan Petford who was the Society and Trade Liason. Set up and break down again easy thanks to the organisation and skills of the traffic marshalls. As it was the overall organiser'S first show I think he did an excellent job.

     

    It was for us a successful show and we were able to help with all manner of signalling related enquiries as well as sell some of our own products. It gives people a chance to see our products first hand but also more importantly it gives people the chance to elicit knowledge of signalling or point them in the right direction. If we want to promote and improve the profile and standards of layout signalling then it is vital that there are people able to answer queries without being patronising or demeaning but with authority and enthusiasm.

     

    Also important are the fellow operators in your area, namely InterCity 125 Group, Swindon Panel Society, Ian Futers and team, Dave Tailby and team, Hyde Lane team, Mill Bank Alley team and last but not least Kelly and team with the DEMU Roadshow. A harmonious posse of stands makes our experience so much nicer as there is usually not a lot of space so we all tend to have to muck in together.

     

    From our position it looked like a good attendance. Indeed when seeing the enormous crowd waiting outside in the foyer to be let in you could almost feel physically the anticipation. The attendees looked to encompass all members of society- male, female, young, not so young and all in between. There were families and teenagers all with one aim- to enjoy a great show which I am sure they did.

     

    The usual case that I didn't get to see the show in the detail that I normally would but that is to be expected. I could barely walk at the end of the day- and it is a long day for exhibitors- as a result of my back and knees playing up and a dose of bilateral acute achilies tendinitis. But it was all worth it and assuming that we get an invite for next year, I can't wait to do it again.

     

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  2. Hi Simon 

    Thanks for the update on your eagerly awaited Class 33 book.

     

    I haven't really got anything useful to share but assume that you are going to detail or talk about the roof and exhaust changes that were applied to the class. I think it was Paul James who has described the fact that some of the later built locos were built with the revised exhaust position but lacked the roof clips that appear with the later modifications. Just wanted to make you aware of this on the very slim chance that you weren't. Any detail photos of this area- especially in original condition would be welcomed by modellers of that period  (ie me!)

     

    I am also interested in the livery changes and dates especially with the addition of full yellow ends and the cutting back of the white waist stripes on some. Another of my weird interests is how many- and which- of the class received D prefixes whilst in blue. Were there any Locos that went straight from green to Rail blue with a non D prefixed number.

     

    I know that you do tend to like including a lot of what some may refer to as trivia but I regard as important and interesting detail so I would like to offer my support for including lots of detail.

     

    Maybe of use or interest is that I have a set of SWD loco diagrams (M-F,Sat and Sun) for Summer 1981 and Summer 1983. The 1983 is the first year I think that the class ventured to West Wales and Manchester Piccadilly andvthis illustrated bybthe cyclic nature of the diagrams. If you would like copies of the documents or just the class 33 diagrams then let me know and I'll be happy to oblige.

     

    I can't think of a suitable title but am reminded of an article written by a former shedmaster (I can't remember his name but he is well known) where it is alleged he referred to the class as those "those cute little engines".  How about 'The Cute Cromptons' as a title or is that a bit girly?!!

     

    Also need to consider your next book- how about the Bulleid Class 12 shunters or class 73s? If anyone can do the job it is you.

     

    Best wishes for the continuation and completion of your current project. It will no doubt become the standard work on the class as your others have done.

     

     

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  3. On 24/11/2019 at 07:15, uax6 said:

    And if you are after anything from the old Nu-cast range, give Dave at SEF a call and if he can he will spin you the kit (quite a few ex Nu-cast, ex Sutherland HR wee Bens have been done recently... ;-] )

     

    Andy G

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    Just be aware that Dave is currently unwell so please bear that in mind. I am sure all of us wish him a speedy recovery as well as being really helpful he is a lovely man. 

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  4. Did anyone manage to get refused access to Reddish Depot? When I visited there (1980) there were all sorts of other characters wondering about inside as well. It felt like if you walked past on the dirt path alongside you would be invited in regardless of whether you wanted to or not. 

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  5. Just as a further piece of info about operating Diesel Depots, Clive (Mortimore) wrote an excellent article about their design trackwise and the operation and reasons why in UPDate the magazine of DEMU (Diesel and Electric Modellers United). This is well worth reading if interested in the subject as Clive explains it all so well and is an excellent writer as well as modeller. With Clive's permission I can supply copies of the article to anybody who is interested in the running and philosophy of a diesel Depot. 

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  6. 19 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

    A most-interesting thought, Andy,

     

    One which I haven't given much thought to, other than to compare the 'standards' of the one chap who was most-unhappy with what I made for him (and thus didn't pay me, though he kept the loco, ex-wheels and motor; despite my offering to supply him with an identical, unmade kit) and the 'standards' I set for my own railway modelling. 

     

    Regarding exhibition layouts (or any layouts which folk visit?), my criteria (questions) would be (irrespective of scale)...............

     

    Does it look like the prototype it's supposed to represent (even if it might not be an actual location)? 

     

    Is the trackplan workable? And, are the visible curves of 'reasonable' radius (I hate seeing main lines going through tight 90 degree curves to go on-/off-stage)? 

     

    Is it correctly signalled, and do the signals work?

     

    Does it all work well, with no derailments or stuttering locos/stock?

     

    Do the locos carry the appropriate lamps/discs, and are they all crewed?

     

    Is the overall modelling standard consistent?

     

    Does it show individual or group work, and not just be the product of opening boxes?  

     

    Regards,

     

    Tony.

    Hi Tony

     

    As an ex Signalman (never a signaller- they are in the armed forces) I can't agree with you more about your above standards. I'm afraid nothing more irritates me more (ok most things irritate me...) more than a lack of trap points or incorrect or no signalling.

     

    I am organising the Signalling Record Society stand for the NEC show next weekend and one of the things that we do is award the Norman Cadge Trophy for best signalled layout at the show. 

    If I could be so previous I would like to 'nick' your comments above to use as part of our assessment of the layouts. I would also like to add one of my own in that in addition to the layout being correctly signalled with working signals it is vital that they are used correctly and adhered to.

     

    One year it was down to three layouts and to eliminate any we had to start being what some may describe as pedantic in order to separate them so as to find a 'winner.'

     

    One of the layouts was beautifully modelled based on a real location with a number of boxes and accurate signalling and track layouts. What let it down was at the time only the double track main line was used with the running signals being left off as though the boxes were switched out. In addition when it was viewed it tended to be the same 2 or 3 trains that kept passing. As the layout was not being operated to its full ability it was duly eliminated. If it had it would likely have won the trophy.

     

    Of course it depends on when our small team- 4 or 5 of us- gets to view the layout and if we can see it through the crowds but we can only judge what we can see at the time. It did seem a shame to be so harsh with such a beautiful and well modelled layout but as the purpose of the Trophy is to highlight and encourage accurate signalling and operation then it was felt unfair to award the trophy when the other two layouts in the final three fulfilled the criteria.

     

    Keep up the good work with the thread, I really do enjoy reading it even though I am not much of a Modeller myself currently. I find it all a great inspiration.

     

    Any of you at the NEC please do come and say hello- I shall be on SRS stand C11 and will be recognised by having my name on a badge..

     

    Trust Hesse has a safe journey from Australia and enjoys Tony's (and Mo of course) hospitality. We truly are a multinational community.

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  7. 21 minutes ago, Two_sugars said:

     

    My mate's wife's HRT always comes in patches. . . . 

     

     

    John

    Hi John

     

    Excellent- hadn't noticed exactly what I wrote! Mine are in tablet form as well as gel....

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  8. 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

    Is Nuneaton safe?

     

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    Is Nuneaton safe? That is a question we all ask ourselves here... At least it seems a bit safer than the Hill of Tiles which has had police raids and shootings and nearby Kelly has continued to sleep and had no idea...

     

    As for that Typhoon, all being well it will be Hillmorton and Long Buckby that it heads towards.... 

     

    It is that windy here anyway then I doubt that I would notice the arrival of a typhoon or any other wind based weather....

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    At Telford with the Signalling Record Society stand- Kelly is helping me to. Nice to meet bbishop yesterday. Just about to leave to go back to the TIC for another day- the layouts are glorious though.

     

    Hope that whatever anyone gets up to it is both enjoyable and safe.

     

    Natalie

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    Not up early- although I am and it is.. Will be later on of to the great metropolis known as Telford where I shall be manning (personning, womanning??) the Signalling Record Society stand at Guildex. I am told that there are two new publications available -one being London Transport signalbox register (yes!) and the other I don’t know. We should also have some of the Research Notes booklets on such subjects as Signalling the WR and Tokenless Block.

     

    Please come and say hello if you are attending Guildex.(Kelly-D827) will also be there with her world famous contraption-still awaiting Davros livery...

     

    Looks like a good selection of layouts- bit biased towards 7mm I find..... but well worth attending.

     

    Hope those here are all well or at least not suffering and keeping any dark canines at bay. Mine is at the bottom of the bed currently overheating herself then doing a passable impression of a kettle climbing Lickey.

     

    Nat

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  11. I know that I have resurrected a very old thread but there is an article in BackTrack Jan 2018 by John Jarvis entitled 'Change at Verney Junc' which might be of interest if not already aware of it. It includes numbered diagrams of the LNWR box, Met box (which makes an assumption of rhe number of the shunt signal leading from the loop line into the Met yard. Mr Jarvis puts it at no 6 but it is in a gap between 7, 9 & 10 signals. I think it is his no 6 is more likely to be 8 based on the numbering pattern of the adjacent shunt signals- but I have no definitive proof as this signal was not on the Met diagrams that I have seen.) But I digress.

     

    Back to the relevant signals. I seem to recall from reading Richard Foster's LNWR Signalling that the LNWR provided two homes like this as routing signals to give advance warning of a junction- rather like flashing yellows I suspect- and I seem to recall that splitting distants were initially provided- which would likely have been no 5. I shall have a nose in the book to see which sort of junctions the splitting homes were provided for. I shall have to access the SRS archive on Friday and Sunday to collect the display stand for Guildex at Telford and see what I can find out. I shall also ask Richard Foster to see if he can shed any light.

     

    John Jarvis' relays that the original lack of a footbridge and the consequent need for passengers to cross the line on the foot crossing potentially over four lines (2 Met ones and the LNWR main)  raised safety concerns which were expressed at a public meeting in Buckingham in Feb 1894. The death of a porter on the crossing also raised fears that the crossing was unsafe. The result of this was a file of correspondence between the BoT, LNWR,  Met and Sir Edmund Verney. The Met replied that it wasn't their infrastructure,  the LNWR denied any safety issues but Sir Edmund Verney threatened to take it further. Seemingly there were plans by the Met to double their route and knowing that reconstruction of the station was likely to be needed the LNWR played a waiting game.

     

    Eventually plans were submitted and approved with the result that the reconstruction and resignalling of the station was completed and ready for inspection in January 1897 with new Met and LNWR boxes- and a 'substantial lattice footbridge'. The author makes no mention of the splitting home signals being commented upon in the BoT Inspection Report  on January 6th 1897 by Major Francis Marindin. It is possible that I have previously photted it at Kew. He does however describe the track layout with following:

     

    "Also provided was a splitting outer home (2/6) which gave the driver of a through train advance notice of how the junction was set, so that he could adjust his speed accordingly.  This replaced the original (1878) single post home signal which also carried the up starting signal for Bletchley trains. The junction home signals (3/7) again replaced a single post version where the upper arm read towards Oxford and the lower towards Banbury.  The configuration of the other running signals on both the main line and Banbury branch remained unaffected by the station reconstruction. " BackTrack Jan 2018 p13.

     

    There seems to be no interlocking between the signals and the foot crossing. Unfortunately no distances of signals from the box or each other are recorded but I think it is quite clear that my original assertion that they were for acceptance purposes is quite clearly incorrect.  I again apologise for my incorrect information as like everyone else here my intention is not to deceive but to try to help people get things correct.  I am sorry that the BackTrack article doesn't really give us a definitive answer but is nonetheless an interesting piece on an interesting location signalling wise.

     

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Debs. said:

    A Mum and her Daughter: the former a nonagenarian, the latter with post-neurosurgical issues, a long overdue IKEA flatpack build and a Sunday afternoon........what could go wrong?:rolleyes:

     

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    Hi Debs

    Good to see you back. You have been very much missed by the people here.

     

    In theory as both of you being female means that you will read the instructions rather than hide them and ignore them as do the males of the species apparently do if we are to believe the gender behaviour stereotypes. 

     

    Now with my nursey hat on (not that I ever had to wear one) if you are in Britain then it is supposed to be a scorcher today ( anything over 20c is a scorcher to me and im allergic to ultraviolet light) with temps reaching 31c. Make sure you drink additional fluids (not alcoholic ones though! ) in addition to the 3litres we are supposed to consume daily.  Don't forget the sun cream and hats either.

     

    Keep yourself safe people! Dehydration is not pleasant and can be life threatening. 

     

    Nat

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  13. Current rumours (ie non stories made up by football writers to fill their back pages in the absence of actual news) are saying that 60% of fans think OGS should be replaced.  Was he not the new messiah earlier- despite being completely inept whilst Cardiff manager? Why do fans seem to have this idea that their onion is considered and taken into account by the club purely because they (the fans) have an emotional attachment to the club? I think the fan- club board/ management relationship is no different from any other customer/ business relationship ie the customer exists to buy the product on sale for as much as they can get away with. In addition to the high cost of match tickets in at least  the Premier League and Championship look at the cost of merchandise-such as shirts,  cost of food and drink within the ground.  The fan is seen as a cash cow that can be fleeced (should it be cash sheep then?) multiple times by a club because they are 'your club' and you have an emotional relationship and could never  ever entertain switching allegiances like you would with any other product/ service  that you were unhappy with. I suppose with OGS not now apparently being the blue-eyed boy that the media had decided he was  will resume normal service in providing us with another Summer of Poch being 'linked' with a move to a 'bigger club than Spurs' ie Man Utd?  Why would he want to go there.  Why do the likes of Klopp or Guardiola never get this constant speculation about them? Im probably biased but it always seems to be Spurs' manager and playerd who are targeted by the media.

     

    But it is no different to every other close season when Spurs' best players are sold off by the press to supposedly 'bigger clubs.' Previous years it was Modric, Bale, Berbatov, Kane, Walker, Rose, Eriksen, Alderweirald and no doubt it will be Son's time this Summer. 

     

    Just had a chuckle to myself with TALKPremierLeague Top SixFootball being on in the background.  There is Davey (!) Moyes and 'Big Sam' (why is he never 'Sammy') Alladyce giving advice on how Man Utd should sort out their current 'crisis'. Never hire either of those pair or sack half of the team for deception, laziness, incompetence or gross misconduct wasnt a suggestion either.

     

    With the nonsense in the Premier League and constant hyping up the non leagues look increasingly attractive so I really am seriously considering going to watch Nuneaton Borough at some point. As an aside I found out that a nurse I worked with and we would give each lifts to/from work turned out that her husband was a Borough legend from the 1960s- Malcolm Allen. I never knew that. One of our  Med students then later HO was also a 'star player' for the Borough during the 1990s- scoring lots of goals- sometimes when he was supposed to be on duty- which was why he never answered his bleep. It came to a head one day after a magnificent hat trick for the Borough was headlines on the local paper's back page and he was supposed to be on for medical admissions but had 'disappeared' and could not be contacted. He was given a choice- doctor or part time footballer or at least swap your on-call with a colleague.  His name was Rob Straw. Also in the team at the same time was Malcolm Christie who was sold to Middlesbrough and latet Derby. 

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