Theakerr

Way back when, I posted the following:

heakerr, on 04 Aug 2013 - 16:51, said:

After reading and following this thread for a while I think this might be a good place to ask about the inside walls of a station train shed.   Specifically, can anyone confirm my memory that thinks the bricks on the inside of many station train sheds, i.e. under the overall platform canopy/roof, was painted white (whitewashed) to make it appear lighter.  I am specifically interested in Grimsby town station, circa 1955.

Last night I came across the following site www.stationcolours.info and I contacted the owner Peter Smith.  He confirmed, that despite my advanced years, my memory is not that bad and that the inside of station sheds were  sometimes whitewashed (and painted cream) to make them brighter.   Thus, the inside of Grimsby town will be whitewashed although of course by 1955 it would be getting pretty dirty as there wasn't a lot of funding for "cosmetics"

Fantastic set of notes.  I have been waiting for several years to get information like this which is factual, succinct and correct.  

Nothing like the fact to confuse the memory.  If the 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby train didn't get into Kings Cross until 22:00, then it would have to be a pretty late dinner for that fish.  I must admit that I always thought the journey from Grimsby to KX was about 5 hours.  Anyway the facts beg the question, why bother at all with the vans on the rear.  By the way, in my last post Mallard (now corrected) should have read Mayflower.  Gilbert will understand.

First time i have looked at this thread (for some unknown reason).  Very very nice

Gilbert, thats interesting about the fish vans not going all the way through to London.  My memory says that the 15:00 was a through train to London but again that was many many years ago.As a child we had always understood that the fish vans, especially on the 15:00, were put on specially so that the people eating out in London could have "fresh" fish for dinner at the better restaurants.    That's not to say that the impression was correct though.  I will talk to my Sisters and see what their memory is.  By the way, I think they would have to be put on at Grimsby Town.  If they were put on at Grimsby Docks they would have been either at the front end or would have had to be changed to the back at Grimsby Town.

p.s.  Mayflower now regularly hauls a rake of 10 Gresleys (with two coaches behind the Guards Van as per my memory) on my make believe 07:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby to London on the intermediate stopping train.  Grimsby, Louth, Firsby, Boston, Spalding, PETERBOROUH NORTH, Hitchin Kings Cross

Forgot to mention on the subject of freight.  The 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby to London train would always have at least one van and often three vans loaded with fish on ice (not necessarily fish vans) on the rear.  There was also a London train somewhere between 17:00 and 18:00 (I think) that would always have vans loaded with fish on ice.  In the later years I remember the regular vans sometimes being replaced by fish vans.  I assume that the vans were brought up from the docks and put on the rear at Grimsby when the loco changed ends.  

From my memories of New Waltham, the empty fish trains were always longer than the up full ones.  From the data, I wonder where the coal trains left since they are not shown as going through Peterborough and where the iron ore (full and empty) came in and left the Grimsby Peterborough line.

Nice to see some freight pictures.  I cannot comment on the ECML but certainly on the Crimsby/Peterborough line there was a fair bit of freight (if my memory serves me correctly).  coal, iron ore, sugar beet, fish (for the period you are covering I think there would have been at least three if not four fish trains a day), steel products from Scunthorpe and all the misc stuff to keep the farmers happy. 

I have used insulfrogs throughout my layout and in fact they are critical to my automated fiddle yard.  The only think I have had to do is add tender pick-ups to many of my locos to ensure smooth running through them.  Having said that I think tender pick-ups are a good idea anyway to improve slow running characteristics.

Defiantly not Ian.  I am sort of building Grimsby (UK) in Ontario.  You would have so many lines to base it on Louth to Horncastle, Woodhall junction to Woodhall, the list goes on

I would very much like to have a couple of sets to try out, especially on my long fixed rakes which have to undergo on/off type loads. I live in Canada so it might be difficult to make something happen.

What is the status of the coupling assemblies.  They are shown on the Shapeway site but it says they are not for sale.

Looking very nice Jason

Fascinating, some very nice modelling too

For gutters and downspouts, I tend to take the simple (lazy) way and buy them.  My personal choice is Ratio 538.  British Imports in Oakville generally has them in stock.

After reading and following this thread for a while I think this might be a good place to ask about the inside walls of a station train shed.   Specifically, can anyone confirm my memory that thinks the bricks on the inside of many station train sheds, i.e. under the overall platform canopy/roof, was painted white (whitewashed) to make it appear lighter.  I am specifically interested in Grimsby town station, circa 1955.

Thanks 

Back from my travels (10,000km) that included a visit to Wainfleet.  A very pleasant visit it was too along with a jar or two down at the local.  (My son and I closed the Brickhouse down the next night).  The layout is coming along well and I look forwards to seeing it next year on my annual pilgrimage.  The various buildings are as good or better than they show up here and Jason's construction techniques are most interesting.  I really will have to upgrade my old MAC so that I can get into some of this "cutter" (and 3D) printing.   

Gets better with every photo session

Trust you found all was well upon arriving back in Fernie.   The Corwsnest Pass must have been something.  We were on the TC last year and ended up having to make a 300km + diversion through Rocky Mountain House because a mudslide just north of Banff.

JCL,

Just heard from my Son that Fernie has been issued with a flood watch/warning and that people are out sand bagging the elk river.  Trust you and Wainfleet are OK.  Pictures from Calgary are incredible.

Like  "Pilgrim in France" I remember the odd Birds Eye containers on the evening fish trains as they went through New Waltham.  As I remember they started to appear just about the same time the special Blue spot fish vans came on the scene.  

Based on what we used to see on summer Day Tripper specials into Cleethorpes, I can almost bet that at one time or another a B17 would have ended up through Wainfleet

I would suggest that some of the slow speed excellence has to be due to the Hornby Mechanism.  I dont know what they have done but without doubt my 01 was the best runner i have ever had straight out of the box.  This includes crawling using DC

Agree with Kevin.  some of those shots under the roof have really captured the scene as I remember it.  The last one especially.

I am back from my trip having visited the York show, Monks Bank, the open day at Gainsborough and Peterborough North.  My visit to PN was an excellent day where I was able to enjoy Gilberts company and have a first hand look at what I have to say is becoming one of the "classic" layouts.   The photos on the web are excellent but seeing it in person brought out the true scope of the layout and refreshed my memory of a large station of the steam era (although i did discover that one of my "memories" has to be wrong).  I was especially impressed with the lack of "cluttering" that often accompanies our models.   Many thanks Gilbert and if anyone is over this side of the pond, feel free to give us a shout.