Brass0four

I've just dug that MRJ out, and I think its possible that just about everything is in that article, including the iconic Persil shot on the cover. I don't have a functioning scanner at the moment, but I do think that those youngsters unfamiliar with this Master would benefit if you can find time, Iain. (buck passed swiftly! ;-) ) Regarding the other thing, I took MRweb off my home-pages as an act of self discipline, but the notifications appear via e-mail, of course. And there's no way I'm disconnecting from this thread! Memo to Self: "Is sleep really necessary, or is it just a bad habit?" Tony.

Iain has just read my *status* and is in hysterics! Quite rightly. I swore off RMweb a week or so ago - desperate for precious modelling time (certainly NOT wasted in the case of this thread) in a life with NO time - yet here I am! LOL! And not so much as a 4mm brick laid... Tony.

Thanks Iain. I have that issue as it happens. Perhaps I'm wanting more than was actually photographed, remembering that close-up photography was a skill beyond most people, equipment-wise if nothing else. What little was done was probably for magazine publication. I don't think the man himself photographed his work. A chain-smoker as he modelled, that's what killed him. A sad reminder. Tony.

I have a copy of "LNWR Portrayed." Its something of a masterpiece itself. His line-drawings - done the hard way, no PC nonsense - are brilliant. I'd certainly make it a must for anyone who reads this thread. The only drawback is that it can tempt you into modelling the LNWR. (!?) Tony.

Please - more Iliffe Stokes! I do declare he was the first that really turned me on to railway-modelling as an Art Form... There were many others,, Denny, etc., but Stokes had such a - dare I say it - poetic atmosphere. And I've very few pictures, some old Modellers and an MRJ article. Tony.

- At least you're has beens - I haven't been! Tony.

He doesn't use talc to pounce (matt) the surface does he? Absolutely wonderful shots but I'm glad you've mentioned the need for a LR back-building. I've been thinking this for a while, its a must, I think. Like the lettering on Peter Denny's coaches when they were first seen at exhibition (there wasn't any, but people would have sworn there was - [ too brief a paraphrase] ) I think that as good as it can be estimated might be sufficient in this case? ??? Tony.

The trouble with the sets is they are far too big. I'm putting up a sample picture from Scalescene but I don't know what size it'll come to but 4/32 x 2/32nd is as close as I can measure without a micrometre. Well, I feared it would be huge so its not as bad as it might have been. The original, printed on A4 is correct to my estimation. Tony. L8r 'trouble is, it isn't 2/32nd its somewhat less so its not a 2:1 ratio, but I don't have a ruler with any less, and its even more difficult with parts of a millimetre. You hate this Allan, don't you! LOL

Regarding my posting issues I've a nasty feeling that I might be at fault. The left-click button on my lap top has lost its vigour, so a firm click could result in multiple signals... Equally, it might not register at all for the same reason. We'll see, Tony.

- Cissy granny cog! - that is my *cog for all seasons* you're dissing! humph,

Very useful. And interestingly, they call all the random, pebbly (and larger) stuff *cobbles,". while all the rectangular, regularly laid stuff, regardless of size, they call *sets* Tony.

Cream coloured engineering bricks weren't uncommon in buildings of quality - my 1875* terraced house is made of them! - although I can't recall NER stations made of these it is very likely some others were. *Typically Victorian, the front of my house is made of these and they are as sound as when they were laid, but the back is red common bricks, often cracked and spalled, last pointed not long ago. Hence the saying about some ladies who give themselves airs, "Mink coat and no, em... underpinnings." Tony I don't know what's wrong with this damn site, but it triplicated the quotes! . .

So, cobbles, Gentle Masters - the most common town-street surface till tarmac, not uncommon in the fifties (back lanes and such) You must have done 'em! Cobbles??? Cobblers?

No. But I'm narf looking forward to next year! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.>>> O~O

I did very similar to what you are saying on sets and it looked dead right - except it was dead set wrong. Sprints 'n tubs, Campag or nothing - no Jap stuff. Came off on Marley Hill bank, gravel-rash from head-to-toe, rat-trap pedal in the mouth - happy days! Tony

Can't say I've known that in the North East, but I could well be wrong. I'm trying to recall where I've seen white-glazed bricks (other than in a netty)- unless it was in the old foot-tunnel on the Tyne. But, no, can't recall paint or whitewash. Welcome to the House of Fun, (its madness!) Tony.

L8r I've looked at Slaters but the bricks are just too small. If I had to guess as to size I'd say about 4/32 x 2/32nd Tony.

'Don't dare interfere with a successful image post, so, in the above pictures it is the wet ones I'm after, kind of brick-courses as you said, Bill. Tony.

As usual, a health-related emergency always arises when I post, most often of an, em... (no, altogether too much information!) Forget it. Thanks, Bill, close but not quite. I googled for cobble images and chose one because it is wet and shows the smooth, round-edged appearance of the sort I'm talking about; and the other for the benefit of Iain, who - like all us road-racers - just loves cobbles... Tony. everything crossed (can you cross tentacles?)

I give up! Posted 3 pics with photos. deleted two and all the pics went! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Out of Lurk to give a numerical lift. What was the song - "Come on everybody - " Question I've been meaning to ask for donkeys. Printed cobbles are available from Metcalf - a bit big - and Scalescene, right size but the print makes your eyes go funny. So, moulded cobbles?, NOT Sets, which are far too big. These are the cobbles that were common everywhere, and some still exist in listed streets and remote industrial areas. You'd think they'd be available. Do-it-yourself moulds would be difficult, they aren't a hell of a lot bigger than house-bricks on their sides, and are smooth edged. Sods Law says I haven't a close-up to hand. Tony.

That'll be a "roast beef and two veg western." Tony.

Thanks Gilbert. After posting, when I was mulling over the wisdom of it, I did consider the possibility you have outlined. Sometimes, I'm sure, there is one particular image, some detail that is missing no matter how complete one's library of reference. Certainly, if I come across something that just might be useful, I'll happily offer it. Regards, Tony.

Don't get me started!!! ;-)