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There were at least two versions of "Sir Dinadan", possibly more. One was shiny, self coloured plastic and another (which I had) something between satin and matt.
I never did work out for certain if it was painted or had a very clever surface treatment to the plastic!
John
Sir Dinadan was always made with self-coloured plastic. Batches made in 1976 and 1977 were gloss varnished; the 1978 production runs were matt varnished.
The move to matt varnish was an attempt at greater realism - unfortunately, the varnish tended to lighten the colour finish giving the locos from this era a very waxy, pale look. By 1980 Hornby bit the bullet and started fully paint finishing the majority of their models - the change was promoted in the 1980 catalogue and made quite a startling difference to the quality of the models. However, by then Sir Dinadan was deleted after a very short production life of three years - never to re-appear.
This short life meant that for many years it commanded premium secondhand prices; however according to Pat Hammond's book, 34,500 were made. When you consider that by the mid 1980s, Hornby's production runs were often down to less than 5000 for individual models, in reality it was never that hard to find.
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No. The original King Arthur "Sir Dinadan" was only ever offered in SR livery.
John
Indeed - that very peculiar shade of SR 'olive' green that Hornby used in the 1970s. I believe it was in fact the same plastic as for BR/GWR green locos. From the era of 'close enough...it'll do!'
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What about "Get Carter".
Deltics at start of film
It needs to come with a figure of Jack Carter in his birthday suit holding a shotgun
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I joined the trackbed just a bit further down from where you took your picture, but visibly missing is the road to Bala on the right.....Not yet built I presume.
The Bala - Trawsfwynydd road was built in the mid 70s, the bit from Trawsfynydd as far as Arenig was already a track but the rest was new. Driving along it you can easily follow the course of the branch line cut into the mountainside, the area is one of the most other-wordly in the British Isles. I would love to have been able to travel the line and am grateful to the OP for sharing these views (and yes, I love the GW branch train-plus-Presflo shot too!)
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What's to disagree with? The blue team have communicated on faults on 40 and are trying to rectify them. Heard anything from the Red team on rectifying models? 4Vep? 12 Spoke wheels on the star, apparently they will supply the correct 10 spoke but that was only heard through BRM I think, never an official announcement!
My VEP was fine, but Hornby sorted out my 31, fitted NEM pockets free of charge to my early issue superdetail Pullmans, sent a free point by return of post when one was faulty in my son's train set, sent me a complimentary replacement part for a secondhand Airfix kit with a defective part made long before they owned that company - I could go on, but I have always have had exemplary customer service from them.
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Well at least there is an acknowledgement of issues and they are testing models where they have found issues. So while I agree it shouldn't have happened, at least Bachmann are communicating to resolve the issue. The red box team would be burying their head in the sand.
Am I alone in finding the last comment demeaning and unnecessary? Whatever extensive discussions have taken place about the 'red box' team and production holdups, dealer issues etc, I cannot complain about their customer service or approach to faulty models.
I don't want to enter into a Bachmann vs Hornby debate, in this case Bachmann have acknowledged that there may be an issue and are seeking to assist and I don't have any issue with their approach, but please don't let this turn into yet another rant about Hornby, especially on an aspect where the latter have always in my experience been exemplary.
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There was the Rivarossi unrebuilt Royal Scot LMS livery 6100 and a couple of LMS coaches in the 70s, I had the loco and some coaches which I ran on my Garden Railway!!
Didnt Fleischhmann do a Warship and some Bullied Coaches in HO scale in the 70s
I believe that 'British Trix when they introduced their revamped range' around the same time as the above used a scale of approx 3.8m/foot. The range included some quite good for the time) LNER locos A2 & A4, also a Britannia and I think an L1 Electric, The factory was just up the road from me so to speak in Wrexham
British Trix items varied in scale - in fact the A2, A4 and AL1 are true 4mm scale. The Trix A4 body is the one used by Bachmann for it's current A4 as Bachmann acquired certain former British Trix tools when they bought Liliput.
The Fleischmann Warship remained in their catalogue until the mid-2000s, as Fleischmann resolutely refused to sell off the incredibly slow moving stock held in their warehouse since the late 70s. When they were bought by Roco the stock was finally cleared and I bought a brand new (albeit probably 25 year old) one from the Signal Box in Rochester for £25.....
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I doubt it when the competition is charging £124.00 for a weathered 9F. Okay, so Hornby has a variant that Bachmann hasn't but some people would still make comparisons.
At this point yes, but we will need to see what Bachmann's prices will be on new production as the inflationary pressures will be bearing on them too
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Couldn't resist the blue NCB one in the Ian Allan Bookshop, these do have an addictive quality. I'm not one for taking a model to bits as soon as I get it home but one of the cab side windows was dislodged so my hand was forced. It all came apart as shown and the glazing was quickly reseated, although I'll second the comment that the inner handrails are a bit of a fiddle. I think I'll mate this with the Bachmann Modelzone NCB 16T mineral wagons I have lurking somewhere
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Now if you order anything from Cartmel (Micman) we will send help...
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I thought according to Model Rail that they were doing the crosti version then the later version with the gubbins removed . R3273 is described as Crosti 9f and R3274 as rebuilt Crosti. It does say in their narrative that it will be supplied with "conventional blast pipe"just adding to the total confusion in the Hornby range it further goes onto state that the model is completely new , meaning new chassis as well. But why then would it be in "Railroad" range. I thought the whole reason it was in there was because it used existing 9f chassis which was felt not to be up to modern standards. So now we have a Railroad model priced at normal range prices £117 . Why? What a farce in marketing or has somebody got it wrong?
I think you're being somewhat harsh - Hornby have stated that the 'Railroad' range is designed for those that don't want incredibly fiddly details falling off every five minutes and are more price conscious. It doesn't mean it's some sort of play range for kids only, and as we have seen from the very heated debates in other threads, there is very much a divide between those that want to retain the ultra-super-detail ready made models at any cost and those that are saying that circa £100 is pretty much their limit for a loco and that they would rather forgo some super detailing to keep within that limit. (There are others that want both super detail and cheap prices, but I'm sticking with the realms of reality here
).In addition, what started out as a range for warmed over older Hornby tooling is rapidly becoming a home for brand new models, e.g. P2, BR 8P etc.So where is the rule that says that this completely new model must be in the super detail range? £117 most certainly does not any longer represent normal range price - that is now £150+ for new 'full fat' models.
Steve Jones in his blog was very articulate in stating that the most important thing in tooling a model is to get the basic shape right. If they do that with the Crosti, then anyone who wants to ensure that the Fireman's underpants are painted the correct colours for 7 July 1957 can do so, and many others will run it 'as is' quite happily.
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cool models the gronks look better then they ever have
its such a shame that Hornby went for simplicity first with the 08 and finished
now with the super detail model we see today
To be fair the 'Railroad' version is base on tooling from 1976 (and the Thomas versions use the 1956 tooling!)
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The AM's office was originally at Cheam! I think Frank Gladwin was the original incumbent. Was Don Love AM there for a while? Perhaps Tony Goff. Alec Shore was SM at Sutton for years. I think Gary Walker may have been a supervisor there.
A bit before my time as I was the SM at Sutton from 1991-93 (Tony Goff was SE Ops director at the time). At that time, West Sutton, Sutton Common and Wimbledon Chase were the only remaining staffed stations, West Sutton had lost its original buildings and had a new ticket office in the entrance passageway, but Sutton Common, St Helier and Wimbledon Chase still had their original buildings. The guy at Wimbledon Chase worked a split shift and did a sterling job of keeping the station clean despite the fact that all the shop tenants had been evicted as part of a BRB Property Board scheme to redevelop the station. He had worked at Wimbledon Chase since 1956, when the station staff had numbered seven and included a night turn! The irony is that in 2013, even though it is now unstaffed, the shops are once again all re-let as the redevelopment never happened. It is now the only surviving original booking hall as Sutton Common and St Helier have been demolished, whilst the empty land in front of West Sutton has been redeveloped at housing.
I remember pushing hard for the boarded up platform buildings to be demolished but couldn't get the funding as it required all the electrics to be moved - some years later Thameslink were able to get this done. In fact in general the condition of the stations in South London is an awful lot better than the early 90s, even if some of the, ahem, character has been lost.
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but........ does the sound on the 44 work OK - I would like to buy one but don't want the same hassle I had with D27 - see other forum posts.Thanks,
Well, put it this way, at that price I can justify the cost of a reblow if necessary. The RRP for this model is over £200.....
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I really like these.....since the advent of Hornby/Bachmann 'superdetail' 08s, the original Hornby model has in general been written off as a hopeless case, but your posts show what can be done with it. Good old fashioned modelling/bashing!
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I would concur - I will certainly not knock Hattons but I have beaten them again and again on price, including from places such as Hamleys in London! Hattons actually appear to have a fairly sophisticated pricing structure, and where a newer item is in high demand they will not do big discounts.
Recent examples below are Hattons price, and the price I paid, in all cases from proper retail shops with a high street presence:
- Bachmann Class 44 blue sound fitted - Hattons 'bargain' (and admittedly a good price) - £129. My purchase - £117
- Bachmann 10001 GSYP - Hattons £99. My purchase - £81
- Hornby Northern Pacer - Hattons price £80. My purchase - £50
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Hmmmz, I wonder if their LT Pannier from Bachmann is the same as the one that I got split out of a Midnight metropolitan set? I have no real use for it...I just like Panniers.
No, it's a separate issue made specifically as a solo release.
William, I was chatting to the LT Museum shop today and the person I spoke to mentioned that they weren't limited (so not an urgent purchase, phew!) but hopefully someone on this site will know more authoritatively.
Mal
All models these days are limited, it's a matter of knowing the batch size. It's just that some come with pretty certificates.....
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Hey, what about an LNWR Precursor or Claughton and matching coaches?
No?
Oh well....
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Those bargains may have already sailed over the horizon. I was stood next to a certain person (well-know about these parts) who paid The Signal Box £39 for one at Warley last year.
Yes, and look what happened to them.....bargain basement sales make for short term gain but in the long term don't do the health of the industry any good!
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OK, a sightly different one here. No problem with the product or the starting price, but why can't sellers understand that using your listing to whinge about how awful your 'customers are is an incredibly offputting way of selling your stuff.
It's a modern day version of the minority of shops in the old days that featured some miserable old git who viewed any customer as a timewaster and/or thief and peppered the stock with notices like 'don't touch' (and yes, I remember back in the 80s as a teenager those shopkeepers that automatically assumed I was a lout because I was under 40, interested in diesels, and unable at that age to whittle my own rolling stock out of balsa wood.....)
I know that there are difficult buyers out there in both cyberspace and the real world but I can honestly say if you are open and polite then the experience is overwhelmingly a positive one.
PS I am now over 40 and still having trouble whittling my rolling stock out of balsa wood
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"The item for sale has not been removed from the box ". How did they photo it then - thought transference etc. ???
Dennis
Er, because the one in the picture is the display model, and you get one from stock. I've used Transport Models of Preston before, they seem like a perfectly reasonable and competent outfit....unlike our old friend Cartmel:
It's one thing to advertise tat at barmy prices, but for goodness sake, selling it will only encourage him!
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This is a die-cast version of the Dublo 'starter set steam locomotive' (They also messed up their diesel shunter to make an 0-4-0 diesel). She was usually (always?) in blue with GER on the tanks and came with a diecast version of the Dublo open wagon in yellow and a high sided wagon (of Acho origins?) in red.
This was the Dinky Toys 784 Goods Train Set, made from 1973-75 - my brother had one. This must have been the last use of any HD tools at the Binns Road factory - by 1973 Meccano Ltd was under the control of the Airfix Group, whilst the HD intellectual property rights rested with the ex-Triang railway range at Margate under the control of Dunbee-Combex-Marx, and the rest of the HD tools were owned by G&R Wrenn Ltd at Bowlers Croft.
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I found this site:
http://www.87thscale.info/budgie.htm
It would appear that the model first appeared as 'Modern Products', changing to 'Morestone' in 1949* and again to 'Budgie' in 1959, with manufacture ceasing in 1966. Since the model was rather crude (and not cheap) it is likely that stocks were still available for years afterwards.
The scale is rather hybrid - certainly 00 in side view, but H0 in width, which explains the necessity of the narrow gauge (around 15mm).
*This accounts for the 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' and the LMS number series.
This other page is useful (not only for the rather nice 'Herpa' vehicles)
http://www.87thscale.info/restoration.htm
However amend the "oven cleaner can damage the skin" to "oven cleaner will damage the skin". Oven cleaner contains caustic soda, which causes nasty burns. (Soap is made by dissolving sheep fat in the stuff!) That is why I prefer brake fluid (still bad for the skin, but less so.) It also doesn't usually strip plastichrome.
A limited number of Budgie models continued in production into the 1980s for the London tourist market, and the 0-6-0 loco was one of them - I remember them on sale in London then (and they were not 20 year old stock). The boxes were closed picture boxes and the small print stated 'Made in England by Budgie Models for H Seener Ltd'. Although the standard issue was red, a few other colours appeared to including a browny-bronze colour!
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Ive spoken to Hornby and they want it back. Including the undamaged bodyshell, which has a custom weathering on it! Not happy will be talking to mr kohler at the peterborough show if hes there.
Don't panic, talk to SK if he's at Peterborough or if not write to him. In my experience Hornby are very good with customer service issues and I'm sure something can be worked out for your model and circumstances.
Hattons Model Railways of Widnes (formerly Liverpool).
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My last order arrived in 1 day, for the normal £4 charge....