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    Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

    in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)

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    4 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

     

    Not quite.  Speaking as somebody who used to deal with daily BRUTE counts and balances (just like rolling stock balances including separately controlling those in special circuit workings) they were in fact -

    British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment

     

    Our lot used to spend an inordinate amount of time maintaining them (so they could run off at peculiar angles) 

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    Class 92, By Accurascale

    in Accurascale / Irish Railway Models

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    2 hours ago, phil-b259 said:

     

    Just because Transport Scotland is a public sector body doesn’t change the legal position - technically they could only licence their intellectual property (the livery design) to only a single model manufacturer (just as the DfT could in theory only give one manufacturer exclusive rights to NSE livery).

     

    The big difference with public sector bodies however is that such practices would generate considerable bad press and accusations of ‘profiteering’ which means that most such public sector bodies tend to shy away from ‘exclusive’ deals and are generally quite happy to provide permission to multiple manufacturers.

     

    However regardless of the livery angle, the Mk5 coach design remains the intellectual property of a non-public sector body (the builders / leasing company) and either of these are perfectly within their rights to only give permission to a single manufacturer should they wish. As both entities are private sector companies, the ‘in the public interest’ type ethos which can be used on Transport Scotland cannot be applied.

     

    Thats not to say that every private sector company will apply worst case / most stringent obligations to licensing liveries / designs on models of course - but the point remains under UK law they can do so should they wish however much Railway modellers may moan.

     

     

     

     

    Irrespective of the above the livery is the IP of Transport Scotland as stated by Arran.  Thanks goodness Accurascale were able to use it as there's not  lot of call for unpainted Class 92's hauling equally unpainted Mk5a's.

     

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    Bachmann announce Mk2f's

    in Bachmann

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    On 21/01/2019 at 10:07, Bob Reid said:

    The images were purely illustrative mock ups for the product launch so they won't be coming like that.  Fortunately!

     

    It's an existing image altered by mistake for speed to use in the product launch - go figure....

    Bachmann announce Mk2f's

    in Bachmann

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    1 minute ago, St Enodoc said:

    Bob, from memory the set headed North in late July/early August, after some main line testing between Derby and Birmingham. A shame that our dear late friend Ray Murison isn't around to help answer these questions...

    Sadly missed...  I think Brian photographed in early August up at the Works.  Unusual in itself as the Mk3's were coming to us straight from the LM and were rarely seen as a set there.

     

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    Bachmann announce Mk2f's

    in Bachmann

    Posted · Edited by Bob Reid
    Added info

    5 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

    Bob, I suspect that the shot was taken on the Old Dalby test track, judging by the length of ropey bullhead track in the foreground. If so, I was indeed on the train and it was taken on 7/6/79 (Derby Day) - I ran a sweepstake amongst the crew on board. The DBSO was 9701 by the way, which was used for all the testing along with 47704.

     

    Thanks John, I wasn't sure as one of the first few came back to us early on for rectification, which I thought was 9701...  Brian Daniels has a photo of the set on return from the tests sitting in St.Rollox yard. https://flic.kr/p/9TNTMU

    Oxford Rail announces - OO gauge Mk3 coaches

    in Oxford Rail

    Posted · Edited by Bob Reid

    That there was evidence from the horse's mouth that OR had sold out of Scotrail coaches, it wasn't just pure conjecture. That they're now on the OR website is a little odd.

     

     

    Which was a reference to stock available for further distribution to the retailers as opposed to the stock held by them for their own sales. It may be odd that they are available however its an inescapable fact and there are other retailers who may well still have some.  I certainly know of one.

    Oxford Rail announces - OO gauge Mk3 coaches

    in Oxford Rail

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    Please take heed of what 87029 said in post number 1901 before saying this is all 'speculation' as regards the Scotrail TSOs

     

     

    I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make Phil, they are still available on their website this morning and also my local retailer has all three variants in stock and only arrived this Tuesday.  Clearly some retailers will have run out of them though.

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