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Roof shaping up

Roof at the back still to shape up, and I'm thinking of some kind of spire/cupola on the corner and perhaps some ornamental dormers.

4 hours ago, Portchullin Tatty said:

Looking grand!

 

Something that is catching my eye is the free-standing gables.  They almost certainly would have a roof enclosing on them both because the window head otherwise looks as if it might be at the gutter line but really because they would be very slender otherwise and prone to collapse.

 

I am a building surveyor and we had to do some emergency works to a building next to Harrods a while back where the roof was found not to be tied into a gable a bit like this.  It would have been exciting if we had not found it before it went!

 

 

Thanks, Tatty.

Yes lots of work to do on the roof, including tying those gables to the main roof.

Wellington chambers has had a coat of grey and the windows have been installed. Now got to work out the roof.

Well just had payment taken for the first of two full sets that I had on pre-order 

Allan Downes used to use wood stain to great effect. might be a vid on YouTube 

I've seen this used before and it's impressive enough for what you're thinking of

Like others I applaud his decision to make the diagnosis public, wish his majesty well with his treatment and a speedy recovery and wish the press would leave him and his family alone and stop the endless and fruitless speculation!

13 hours ago, phil-b259 said:

 

A very safe bet - but that belies the fact you should be recognising that the most popular (and thus profitable) types of GWR stock has already been covered by others.

 

Hornby have a good selection of Hawksworth* and Collect vehicles in their tooling while Dapol are also entering the frey with Toplights.

 

That means there are already two manufacturers fighting for a share of the GWR coaching stock market and I severely doubt there is room for a 4th to share in the spoils.

 

If you are looking for a gap in the roiling stock market for Bachmanmn to exploit then actually the best prospect in terms of sales is the early LMS designed stuff, particularly as Hornbys efforts with the Period III stock seem to have ground to a halt once they exhausted the common 57ft types

 

 

* Had Hornby not snaffled these then the Hawksworths would have been a pretty good fit for Bachmann and complement their other efforts to cater for the last Big 4 designs (Thompson, Bullied and LMS Porthole designs)

 

 

Upgrades of their Collett sunshine stock would fill a whole.

I'm not expecting concertinas or dreadnoughts welcome as those would be, but as the Dapol toplights when we get them will be the steel plated type, they could still do the earlier panelled varieties 

5 hours ago, ThaneofFife said:

 

And does anybody know why Bachmann had the blue and grey runs produced with dark brown underframes and bogies....did BR outshop them like that?

 

According to Wikipedia and I am sure I've read it on a thread here, when the blue/grey livery was first introduced underframes were painted brown, later changed to black

I had £3.50 taken from my account for an alleged Amazon prime account I don't have.

Alerted the bank, they agreed it was fraud refunded me and cancelled my bank card.

My partner has money taken from his account on the basis he'd paid for something on his phone. Bank useless and phone company useless. So we told his phone company to ban such purchases through our phones. Hasn't happened again

As said above trackside is Keighley on the KWVR. The station forecourt was filmed at Kidderminster on the SVR.

Safe bet they'll be no upgraded GWR coaching stock

42 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Wasn't there some non-airconditioned Mk 2s?

You are right, I'd forgotten. 

21 minutes ago, Bishdurham said:

Thinking of the Hornby Catalogues of the 80s, I remember there was a coach and a brake for the Big Four, the LNER were based on Thompson but the other three were Mk1 based.  There was also I believe MK1 and Mk2 for BR.  These were available every year and I suppose allowed the right colour coach to be pulled by your locomotive.  Lima at the time did MK1s of four types including Green, Chocolate/Cream and Maroon but with BR markings.

 

Today we expect more authentic stock and I suppose these must be produced in fixed numbers so that when/if  they sell out that is it until a further batch is ordered.  If other designs are being produced, the factory may not have the capacity to make that batch.

 

The fact that production is now based in China and that unsold stock in a warehouse doesn't fit in with today's business models.  will mean that it may longer not be possible to always buy the new stock that might be required for whatever locomotive.

As I recall there was the veteran four wheeler, and a brake and a composite for each of the big four. The GWR was based on Collett 57 footers with a dining car. The Southern was the GWR coaches painted green and a different roof. The LNER were some distorted gresley coach stock plus a sleeper. The lms were stanier 57 footers using the GWR underframe or vice versa.

The BRITISH rail stock were a selection of Mk 1 and after 78 some mk 3.

Any mk 2s came from airfix

Lady Justice arrived today. She is 3D printed from Shapeways from a royalty free source found online. So I take no credit for the design.

The cost was extortionate. A tenner for the print (not bad), thirty quid for the packing and postage! Don't tell the other half.

The scales needed repair but given how delicate there are I'm not surprised.

So now the roof and skylights to do

So little bit different, working on Mother Kibri kitbash. Almost at the stage where I have used all the kit parts I want to on this one.

This was the original kit

Five of them collected over several years give this

Haven't decided if this will be shops with a hotel above or offices.

But definitely shops at ground floor. Will design something up and get it 3d printed for the shop fronts.

A lot of attention needs to be given to the roof, so plenty of pyramids/pavilion rooves and chimneys to give that high Victorian look.

Of course no court building would be complete without the royal coat of arms.

This one is a former warrant officers cap badge I believe bought off a certain online auction site.

It's perhaps a little on the large side buts fits nicely above the main door.

My fine detail painting has never been brilliant, I tend to rely on a broad brush approach and a layer of dirt to cover up the worst of it.

But from a distance and in the gloom under the pediment I think I get away with it.

I look at realism in two ways, there are those layouts which are accurate down to the last rivet which I admire greatly but could never aspire to, and then there are those layouts which don't attempt to that level of detail but manage to capture the atmosphere of the real thing.

The mind/eye can be very forgiving 

8 minutes ago, MrTea said:

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. The GNER Mk3s are lovely but there didn't seem to be much else in the way of coaching stock, particularly steam era carriages? I even went back to the 2023 range announcement to see what was in that - answer, no new tooling, but a slightly wider range of prototypes including LNER Gresleys, Era 1 coach packs, and MK3s in Blue/Grey and Intercity:

Maybe it's just catching up with the backlog? But you would have thought that some of the existing tooling they've got could have warranted a re-run if there were production slots available e.g. Mk1s, Staniers, Colletts etc?

The model shop I go in most frequently, the very excellent Footplate in Kidderminster, has plenty of coaches in stock from Hornby so if not in the current catalogue coaches are still available!

Hundred years of grimy midlands soot added.

Has helped to bring out the details on the lions

Michael, I found someone on eBay. He was quite happy to make them a little bigger than advertised on his posting and without the base.

Lions arrived today, so couldn't resist posting a few photos.

Bit amorphous but will do as limestone statues that have suffered the pollution of the local climate for a hundred years

Suppose it's possible that Hattons could sell on the rights/moulds for their Genesis coaches 

10 minutes ago, jwealleans said:

 

Happened all the time.   When banana traffic moved from Hull to Southampton the SR hired 200 banana vans from the LNER rather than build their own.  There were a number of special wagons built in the 1930s to Government spec as war preparations; some went to LMS stock, some LNER but they were effectively shared.

 

The Common User agreements around the start of WW1 amount to a permanent sharing arrangement.   For carriages I agree it would be less common (although as Bill has mentioned there were inter-company workings where each company supplied a set on alternate days) but there's no reason to suppose it wouldn't happen.

Yes I'm aware of goods stock, but never heard of it in relation to passenger carrying stock

I'm not aware that the articulated stock was overly wide. I understood it to be a variation of the later Collett 57 ft bow ended stock.

The GWR did have some wide stock (notably the Cornish Riviera and Centenary coaches which were banned from parts of the GWRs own network.

But I've never heard of one of the big four loaning stock to one of the others!