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7 hours ago, John M Upton said:
A hundred and twenty five sheets for the old Lima 156?
Crikey...
Perhaps it's to pay for it's upcoming thirtieth birthday party.
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2 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said:
I think that's a further reduction on the already bargain price of £39 they have been advertising for some months now. Is there something wrong with this model or did they simply misread the size of the market for modern O?
Other Heljan freight vehicles also much reduced (less than half list price).
I suspect that Heljan have just overestimated the demand for quite a few of their O gauge items as you only have to look at the latest prices for the Class 05 shunter & 129 DPU to see that.
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23 hours ago, woodenhead said:
Would it be wrong to assume all the wagonload traffic went at the end of Speedlink in the 90s
i can't remember the last time I saw anything within Trafford Park since that time
There was an article in Rail Express April 2009 that says that the last traffic was around 2000.
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23 hours ago, 62613 said:
No, they'd fallen out of use by the time I started there (mid-January 1985). I saw pictures in the archive of them in use, but when I was there, the end nearest the storage area was being used for the electrical and mechanical contractors' offices and workshops. After the sidings being actually active, some tank wagons were parked there for a time, for use as static storage.
Right thanks, it's surprising that they are still in place in that case.
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On 10/05/2019 at 13:16, 62613 said:
On the first paragraph, I think the second case. Since Metrolink in Oldham was diverted from the rail route to run along Union Street, the tracks across the road junction at Mumps Bridge have not been removed. I suppose another reason might be that closing the roads in question to take the tracks up could cause traffic problems.
On another note, I can remember the track across Tenax Road being refurbished and all the new signage being put up, IIRC in the late 80s/early 90s, when I was working at Ciba-Geigy, also the footbridge across the road when it was widened - I drew the outline plan for it.
On the topic of Ciba Geigy do you ever remember their sidings being used as when I photographed the area about ten years ago they were still in situ which suggested that they were still being used until fairly recently.
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7 hours ago, Reorte said:
The track's lifted now, and trundling across some of those open road crossings for some sort of preserved railway would definitely raise a few eyebrows (can't recall if the one by Kelloggs was an open crossing but the one that went straight through a roundabout was, wasn't it?)
Yeah, but there's the embedded track on the Containerbase to get them started and it wouldn't be too difficult to relay the track as it was only lifted a few years ago. As for the Kellogg's crossing, I was thinking that they could just use it for access to the engine shed and not actually have the passenger carrying trains crossing it. Also the roundabout crossing (Village Circle) was on the TPE network which was separate from the MSC owned Containerbase line.
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20 hours ago, adb968008 said:
Do they give you a graphical bingo card, so you can mark off what debris you spot ?
car tyre, sofa, rusted car, shopping trolleys, industrial pipe, sunken boats, some foul smelling yellow liquid, dead fish...
ive got to admit my memories of the canal in the 1980’s/90’s put the grim into north for me. I remember Manchester bid for the Olympics in 2000, Sydney made a video comparing Sydney to Manchester including shots of Sydney Harbour bridge or Manchester Ship Canal bridge, the weather, the beer etc.
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To be honest there's so little traffic and heavy industry on and around the canal, that's it seems to be fairly clean these days. Although you may need sunglasses if you go on one of the trips and not for the reason you'll be thinking...
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I was watching a Youtube video about the BT mascot Buzby and it showed all the merchandise, publicity material etc, but the author also mentioned the Buzby Special train. It seems to have been made to promote and showcase BT technology and used one of the Exhibition trains in a special Buzby livery. Does anyone actually remember seeing, visiting, photographing it or has it ever been modelled does anyone know?
I've only found one picture of it at Chester in 1978 and that doesn't really show it that clearly.
https://www.2d53.co.uk/chester/Specials.htm
And this picture of a pamphlet about it.
http://www.lightstraw.co.uk/ate/tao/sales/buzby/special1.html
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3 hours ago, woodenhead said:
All gone - Containerbase is now demolised, a car dealership is nearing completion there amongst other stuff - with the hotels and new pub it would all look very out of place now if it was still operating - think Peel wanted them gone a long time ago and a piece of dodgy infrastructure is an old trick.
I didn't realise that Containerbase itself was now gone as the Google Street View still shows views from 2017. It got me thinking that perhaps a preservation society could take over the track down Barton Dock Road and run brake van rides up and down it as they would have a ready market with all of the visitors to The Trafford Centre. They could even reuse the old engine shed near Kelloggs.
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3 hours ago, John-Miles said:
When I were a lad (this would be the middle 1950s), my school organised a trip to Salford where we boarded a Mersey Ferry and sailed the entire length of the canal. The trip ended at Liverpool Pierhead when there was moored the biggest ship I had ever seen, The Empress of Canada (I was brought up in Derbyshire so ships were a rarity). Salford docks had the distinctive Manchester LIners ships (black hull with the company name painted on the side in huge letters). The railway then ran the length of the canal with lots of 0-6-0Ts to be seen. A wonderful day out - the best we ever had from School.
There's a company that still runs tourist cruises from Liverpool to Manchester if you want take a trip down memory lane.
https://www.merseyferries.co.uk/mobile/manchester-ship-canal-cruise/Pages/default.aspx
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1 hour ago, John M Upton said:
If I recall there was also in at least one catalogue a land grab of announcements of Peaks, 90's and 91's among others, none of which ever saw the light of day or were mentioned by Lima ever again.
Others mentioning the vapourware V2 reminded me of a Lima catalogue that I once had that featured all of those forthcoming models that never arrived. And considering that a lot of the Lima models that are still being produced such as the 47 and 73, are now over 30 years old, they still look pretty good.
Does anyone remember what years the 67 was released as I believe it was their last new model and was only a few years before they went bust in 2004.
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I've just been watching Sam's Trains Youtube channel where he recently reviewed the Hornby re-release of the Lima 101 dmu. He was commenting about how the detail standards weren't as good as modern models or even that great for when Hornby released it (2007 I think) and I was struggling to remember exactly what year Lima first released it. It got me curious as to exactly what year each of their models were released, especially those that are still in the Hornby range so can anyone remember the years?
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6 hours ago, PenrithBeacon said:
I'm getting the impression from Google Earth that non of railways in the Manchester/Salford docks have been preserved; is this true?
Regards
There's a tiny bit of embedded track around the Mode Wheel Lock area which still exists, but that's just about it.
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6 hours ago, Fat Controller said:
Is there much, indeed any, maritime traffic to the Manchester area these days?
There's cement to the Weaste terminal which is why railway traffic to it has virtually disappeared, grain ships to Cargill (used to be Cerestar which was rail served until fairly recently) scrap metal from the EMR site, container ships to Irlam & LPG ships to Carrington power station. This site list all the traffic that goes to Manchester.
http://www.shipsofthemersey.me.uk/index?/page/manchester_ship_canal_2017_2018
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Do 00 modellers have the patience to wait seven years for one?
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1 hour ago, neilneil said:
Thank you both for your replies. Is the scrap wagon the blackadder?
Yes, the Heywood Works also did the conversion for the POA's RLS 5214-5233 in 1987 & RLS 4560-4579 in 1989.
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They were built by the Standard Railway Wagon Co at Heywood and one of guys who worked there has written an excellent book which shows all of the wagons that they built. It only has one picture of the Tip Air, but it is a rare one of it actually in the tipping position, but there aren't any detailed drawings. The book is Standard Railway Wagon Co Heywood Works by David W Tandy.
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Does anyone know why there is a pipe/cable going through the driving cab door window from the barrier coach?
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There's an official photo of one on the HMRS site.
https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs/standard-pulverised-fuel-wc2-20t-covered-hopper-1002.html
And a RMWEB member has actually made models of them.
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6 hours ago, Martync said:
What an absolutely brilliant location!! They must have had to use very small tank engines, given the size of the run round loop!!
Martyn
I was looking at some old maps and it seems that originally the line went across the road, but was truncated at some point.
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7 hours ago, DavidLong said:
May I offer the Pool Dam branch which ran from Knutton Junction on the Stoke to Market Drayton line to a canal wharf at Brook Lane via Pool Dam on the south east side of Newcastle-under-Lyme. It can seen on this map from NLS:
The book 'Newcastle-under-Lyme Its Railway and Canal History by Baker and Fell and published by Irwell Press has copious details. Pool Dam was basically a coal depot and there was a gas works just before the wharf on the western side of Brook Lane. In later years a structural steel contractor had workshops at the wharf who received steel sections from Corby.
These houses on Brook Lane can be seen on the map on the corner of Stubbs Gate:
The site of the gas works is now a Morrison's supermarket. Photo is looking north from the trackbed just west of where the railway crossed Brook Lane:
The wharf opened out on the other side of Brook Lane but, sadly, nothing much to be seen today:
By the way, in 1958 a SPD warehouse was opened by Lever Brothers on the site of Knutton Forge, just on the branch, and provided extra traffic but only lasted six years. The whole branch closed in October 1967.
David
There's a great picture of the Brook Lane section on this site which just screams out to be modelled.
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23 hours ago, Alister_G said:
Early this morning, the sunlight was streaming through the windows, and I tried to capture the light on the layout:
Al.
On your marks, get set, go...
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23 hours ago, melmerby said:
On Thursday there were 3x Highlander & 2x Capital Connection and 5+ of each type of Carflat.
The Highlander was a real bargain at less than 50% RRP, a complete plonk & play set and ideal to get into N & DCC
Yeah, I was just making a Highlander joke.
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11 hours ago, big jim said:
Further to mel’s post there are in fact 2 highlander and 2 capital connection sets on the table,
I thought that there could be only one?
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Cardiff/ Bristol - Weymouth loco hauled early 90s
in UK Prototype Questions
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There are some detail differences between the 2A/B/C, but I suspect that most people wouldn't notice the difference.
http://www.semgonline.com/coach/brmk2_1.html