mkwolf1877

Usually we tend to put up prettier pictures. But there had been some comments on how interesting it was to see the ripping out of this area prior to this rebuild.

Therefore if anyone would like us to show more of these rough and ready pictures of how we do it, please shout out so we know they are of interest.

 

Keep the pics coming, they're great to see. You're doing a great job

That would have been a spring or summer mix.

I have to admit I have tried just about everybody's, and they all work well. I find that you need to choose the colour under them carefully. I usually like a wood stain brown, but here to match the soil on google earth I used a paler colour. I would recommend a wood dye though, all round it works better, last longer and if the grass is worn off looks like a mud patch. oh yeah and it's cheaper.

Do you use different lengths? Was thinking about 2mm & 4mm?

Can I ask which static grass you use? It's on my shopping list for Warley!

Looking superb Jaz, nice work mate. Wish I had the space to do the water area properly!

The whole thing is coming together really nicely.

Great thread this, thanks for all the useful posts on here. I'm looking at getting some static grass but having never used it before I haven't a clue which ones are best quality, best value etc. Has anyone any recommendations?

 

Many Thanks

Hi loco fan,

No it may not.

Here's a little tip that's 85% successful in the customers I tell it to.

It maybe that the gear has gone a little too far on the worm meaning that the motor operates but the signal doesn't.

Try operating the signal as normal via the switch. At the same time flick (yes flick) the top or bottom of the signal, depending on which way the arm will go if properly operating. Strangely enough this should re engage the gear with the arm, although you might have to flick a couple of times for success.

If that doesn't work it's back to the place of purchase for replacement.

Fingers crossed

Cheers

Dave

Thanks for this Davel, installed two "homes" this afternoon, both worked fine, then after a few changes, the motor turned but the arm didn't move on one of them. A few "flicks" seem to have done the trick. Fingers crossed this isn't a regular occurrence!

Nice lighting, especially like those lamps. Your platforms have turned out really well, bet you're proud of them. I can see that you chose to use peco stone sheet same as me. Mine were quite hard to do on the slope and curve. I had fun with the ramps!

Slaters do midland stile ramp fencing BTW.

Cheers, I'm really pleased with how the platforms have turned out, thanks for you tips! I'll have a look at the slaters fencing! The lamps are from DCC Concepts, I'm very pleased with them. Think the yellow LED looks good in the small white platform building but looks a bit "green" in the main building so may change for a white one.

I can't believe how much fencing there is & how many gates there are!

Definitely on the right track, from experience, if this is your first layout, allow things to be improved, we had to rip ours to pieces as it was all glued rather well in situ.

A quick hit will be the flowerbeds, our initial attempt was some cork cut to size the edge painted white and some green stuff.

You have the Bachmann station and considering the orientation of your photo I think it is the best station. Just love the 3 little buckets and fine details.

You don't have the platform for the sleeping coaches, can you still squeeze it in?

Nicely coloured platform walls though, much more correct than our original bright red bricks.

Still a lot to do, however I'm quite pleased with the platforms & walls. I actually went with the "new Hornby" in the end, but built my own platforms! I have got some fire buckets & will get round to fitting them. Got a bit of work to do for the sleeping coaches, I'm very tight on space so I'll have to see. I've got something up my sleeve for the flower beds, the pots are only temporary!

Here's the station from the other end:

And the building on the other side:

Should really start my own thread!

As you advised on how you did you walls, here's a peek at my efforts!,

I came to read the comments, as you do, and realised I had forgotten this one

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the top needs sorting, but you can see where we are going

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You could pass this off as the real thing. This is absolutely brilliant

The back wall of Goathland station.

 

I had planned to use plastic sheet slaters or another. When Kal said with all this practise with the PIR have you consider using it for the wall, especially as the wall is different depths in places.

Hmmmm............................

 

The new Hornby building close up of wall

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goathland wall

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goathland wall on the PIR more to do, and I will show how I did it, but I just went for it until I was convinced it could work.

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I cut the PIR to size (wrong size, as it happens but I can fix that

I counted the bricks (I really did) 14 then 7. Luckily the height was just over 10.5 mm so each brick is approx .5mm

at 14 bricks I cut the PIR back

I marked the lines with a thin felt tip

I cut the lines with a stanley blade

Most of the bricks are about twice the height for a width, so I marked the bricks

The finish came about naturally from the cutting process no extra work required

Paint the lot in grey emulsion

Whilst wet add some tiramisu (beige to you) paint

and some chocolate sundae (brown)

mix the colure whilst still wet but only the grey goes in the cracks

add some model mates green to the stepped part of the wall and near the water 

add some copydex

add some green turf

add some bush

job done.

 

the steveT picture from Panaramio

 

I used silky-jacks thread The Lofty Heights for reference as there are some good reference pictures there of the wall side on.

Hats off to you mate, that looks amazing. Nice one.

Footbridge or no footbridge, a point raised on Sasquatch's Goathland layout. How purist should we get, my response on his thread ........

 

We (edit= Sasquatch, Cgraham, Silky_Jack, Mkwolf1877, Kal and Jaz) know that most of the NYM footbridges appeared around mid 80s. Which could be a dilemma, and removal of the footbridge is essential for anyone tied to the era only aspect. But Heartbeat has the footbridge in, Harry Potter (ok modern day) has the footbridge in, and it does seem to lack something when you remove it. I think it more likely to just lift the footbridge if you want to run those earlier locos and photograph them for that purpose and then put the footbridge back in. As for the early trains they are definitely a nice to have, but for us (Arboretum Valley) we have so many things we need to do, and we are reflecting the filming and tv aspects that the footbridge is an essential product. 

Silky_Jack who is not adding Harry Potter, Heartbeat et is more likely to be effected by this aspect.Although I do not think he has limited himself to a specific date.

 

It is possible to debate this endlessly, but with so much present day reference matter, I think in the fullness of time, say 20 or so years, not adding the footbridge is likely to be considered lacking. With todays technology, our offerings are likely to stand the test of time. As such for me, the footbridge is in, making it removable for the odd picture, an acceptable solution.

 

I will be using the footbridge. I want to model mine as it is now, will be doing a few "Heartbeat" bits too, ie the Police House. Most of the other Heartbeat stuff is there anyway with the exception of Ashfordly Hall.

I look forward to seeing an "original" version, I'm sure Sasquatch will do a superb job should he decide to take it on

mkwolf1877

try exporting it to a folder in pictures that often reduces it

 

Already in a folder but doesn't seem to shrink on the iPad. I'll try from the laptop later. Cheers for the Panaramio links btw, I'm just doing the coal drop ramp, very useful

 

 

 

Thank you both.

I've got a pic of the water behind the station but it won't upload as the file is too big! Not much better than what you've found though.

I had been waiting for the 1mb photo limit to be lifted, but finally decided to do it another way.....you get several projects at once though.............

Ok I have moved on to another part of Goathland down by the railway bridge

Goathland Hillside, Tiramusu and Chocoloate Sundae and some fray plaster filler on sculptured PIR

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Same with more paint

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Viewed towards the water feature and station

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Goathland Station long view

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with some Turf and some Static Grass and the roadway coloured

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closeup of the roadway to date

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There is still plenty to add, the water feature needs to step up with a small waterfall / weir, trees, fencing, road edging etc. Be we have lift off.

Looking great! You Opted for the new Hornby buildings in the end then?

mkwolf1877

I know where you are coming from.........

Not only is Goathland church a good size, but in order to do it justice in a cameo of it you have to allocate it a lot of 'land'.

I would like to have the Aidensfield Arms and Scripps lined up so that the short scripps building is near the edge of the table, I want to incorporate the whole or part of the carpark and the road on the rhs which means at some time making the missing bit of the building.

I want the road to run into the shops and the green, so the main road and the shops road are sorted, leaving enough space for correctly modelled buildings to be added later.

The corner from the shops  around to the church is probably beyond me.,

I want the church and its graveyard etc, I would like the red tiled rooftops of the buildings behind, but I am just about certan there is no space for buildings, a drop in photographic backdrop might solve that problem. I want the curve around the church incorporated.

Getting Greengrasses farm and the caravan park with its sprawling buildings will be difficult plus initially it will be a Hornby tribute not a real lookalike. It will need to back up against a wall as it sprawls too far to incorporate everything.

Losing Hogsmeade might help, but I am loathe to move Hogsmeade and thus Hogwarts, it would mean removing the RAF area from here completely. Potentially moving Greengrass to a new area is a possibility.Stripping out more of our work isn't something I want. Kal said dropping some of the buildings and their orientations as single elements around the whole loft could overcome my issues. Especially as we just cant run at 90 degrees out of the station up to Aidensfield Arms and onto the shops before a 90 degree to the Church and another 90 degree to Greengrasses, plus add the three elements that are not even in Goathland;

I want to do the Police House as a tribute, I have the Hornby building withthe blue door even if the porch is wrong.

I want Ashfordly Hall  as a tribute, another Hornby building with 'ivy' added will be creditable.

I want Birch Inn with a good facsimile of the river and the double portal bridge and the building opposite.

I think I have to bite the bullet and do just the Goathland based elements here, and site the others elsewhere, even though I have already cut out a river for Birch Inn in such a manner as to also incorporate Malyans Spout. Luckily it is on 100mm foarm and can be moved.

I think it safe to say Sheffield park station might end up as close as we can get it, but the other buildings and nearby scenery will end up as a tribute, although I will endeavour to get the geographical layout of the land and roads, which would allow improvements at some future date without ripping everything to pieces again.

Ho hummmm.

What you thinking of using for Ashfordly Hall?

Thank you for the nice comments.

My dad has bucked the odds and been transferred from ICU to a surgical ward. which means he is on the mend. After a call from a social worker I went in and asked my dad what is 1+1, he opened an eye a a bit and said 2. So I asked him what 50+50 was and he opened the same eye a shade more and looked at me as though to say what was I playing at and croaked 100.When I explained to him that due to him lying passively in the bed in ICU that the social worker appears to consider him a little gaga (the man was only off the tracheotomy for just over 24 hours and subsequently very croaky) my normally very nice and polite dad said Borrocks and when I affirmed she would get short shift he pointed out she could also go do something anatomically difficult for a woman. It's clear his brain is definitely fully active.

This means we should be looking forward to getting him home in his granny annexe some time in the (near?) future, and I will have a lot of modelling to catch up on.As I will no longer be travelling to and from the hospital.

 

Glad your dad is on the mend, great to hear.

 

As such more green stuff should soon be sorted photographed and popped up for evaluation.

You would think a table space of over 8ftx4ft (2440mmx1220mm)minus a bit of track for goathland station approach would provide a space quite nicely for a few cameo buildings; (Aidensfield Arms, Scripps garage, Birch Inn, Goathlands church) and a few tribute buildings; the Heartbeat Shops, Ashforldy hall and Greengrasses farm and hopefully the caravan park. Yet I am still faffing around. I have printed off google maps of each, transferred to tracing paper for minimum sizes, and attempting to make it look realistic as a whole. However once I am happy with it work will go at a quick pace as I have all the modelling fluffy bits ready.

I know what you mean about fitting the buildings on, that's the bit I'm struggling with! Trying to keep the "countryside" feel as well as getting the "required" buildings on is a nightmare! Goathland Church as a massive building too, and in reality is right at the other end of the village to the pub, nearer to Greengrass farm! All we need now is for TMC to commission the row of shops lol. I'll be interested to see what you come up with. It's also noticeable how much room the Goathland Hotel takes up, especially if place opposite Scripps as in real life!

 

Went to the Peterborough show on Sunday and picked up a lovely telephone box with lights in to go outside the Birch Hall Inn!

 

Keep up the great work

Well done on you're results, you're layout & modelling are superb.

Thanks Mark,  

 

Great info. I am googling as we speak type  

 

Scott

 

There wasn't much Railway presence in All Creatures a you've got pretty my a free license for anything Yorkshire Dales! Lovely

Don't get me started lol.

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The Church

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Probably got one of "The Drovers Arms" somewhere!! I've sunk a few "wee drams" in there lol.

Be really great to see someone do a "All Creatures" theme, loads of scope to model it. I'll watch with baited breath!!

"Finghall" was the station used in the show but no trains stopped there!

Thanks Jaz, 

 

Good news about your Dad. 

 

Don't want to hijack your thread but just a quick note. It appears that Askrigg in Wensleydale was the setting for All Creatures. Google maps does not reveal a station however. I am pretty sure Tristan arrived by train in at least one episode. More research is needed me thinks and I can always use modellers licence, which I am sure will end up being the case.

 

Regards Scott

Don't get me started lol.

The vets

The Church

Probably got one of "The Drovers Arms" somewhere!! I've sunk a few "wee drams" in there lol.

 

Be really great to see someone do a "All Creatures" theme, loads of scope to model it. I'll watch with baited breath!!

They are those cheep chineese ones 20 for $10 here-on-eBay .

 

You can't put the full 12V through them though and I had to guess the wattage and used two 1A transformers from old Bachmann train sets for $5 each from the junk store. They are dimmable by means of the speed controll and wired up in pairs so as to reduce voltage by half and prolong thier life. One circuit for the lamp posts and one for the building interiors. Each bulb is connected to a 2 gang choc connector  under the board for easy replacement. Each interior bulb is supported in a styrene tube so as to not come into contact with the building.

 

You can't see her in this view but the seated Dapol lady has fallen over backwards on her Ratio chair and there is a cheese cake in that pie case.

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Goathland station master waiting for the evening train.

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The fillament lamp wire is visable under the footbridge veranders but too fine to be noticed in this pic.

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This telephone box outside the Birch Hall Inn is a Busch HO product.

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Brilliant!

 

I've been looking at the DCC Concepts lamps for the station & already have some "Skale-Lighting" so'll probably use that in the buildings.

Here is the tricky part. The station seat was made by cutting the platform and setting it straight with blocks and nails so that the building didn't lean. The office got sanded on a belt sander which you can see in this pic along with a close up of the platform. 

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Did you replace this lamp or have you put a bulb in the Skaledale one? It looks superb!!

Hi

I was also interested to read, it is not the original station. If you look closely on google maps you can see the route of the original line.

Sorry I haven't mentioned this before, I just presumed you all already knew. The original trackbed is now a walk to Grosmont, conveniently going very close to the Birch Hall Inn en route for refreshments!!I have a couple of pics of the original structures:

Here are some links to old pics of Goathland1939 showing the winestone crusher and shute.

Notice how tidy everything appears and where the trees are.1975 With what looks like blue grey DMU without yellow ends.1969This chaps work is realy good.

Great pics thanks for sharing those. I knew the footbridge was never there & has been added. I wonder where it came from?