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Another period shot from Flickr, this time from 1961. Note the yellow 'Earles Cement' labels on both the presflo wagon and the BR road vehicle:

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I hope it's OK to post these here, seems a good place to inspire potential customers!

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I see from the latest news letter that these are on the water due end of March which is great news. Just wondering if there will be the option to pick my pre orders up from Shepton Mallet show if they arrive in time please? @Ellis Clark Trains

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On 02/02/2022 at 18:32, Mol_PMB said:

Another period shot from Flickr, this time from 1961. Note the yellow 'Earles Cement' labels on both the presflo wagon and the BR road vehicle:

bmc ffk British Rail cement tanker lorry pthe 1961

I hope it's OK to post these here, seems a good place to inspire potential customers!

I'm wondering what the top line of the lettering on that Presflo actually is, clearly it's not 'Presflo'. I can't see one matching i on Paul Bartlett's site.

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5 minutes ago, spamcan61 said:

I'm wondering what the top line of the lettering on that Presflo actually is, clearly it's not 'Presflo'. I can't see one matching i on Paul Bartlett's site.

It is PR|ES|FL|O but the R and the S are concealed by the ribs | from this angle.

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On 13/03/2022 at 21:06, Mol_PMB said:

It is PR|ES|FL|O but the R and the S are concealed by the ribs | from this angle.

'R' yes thanks, see what you mean, I was struggling to construct any vaguely plausible word starting 'P E F'

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On 31/03/2022 at 12:15, Bartb said:

Any news  Please

Ellis has sent out an update today on these so I have copied and pasted that here for you. To echo the below statement we are very disappointed on the delay but we know these models will be worth waiting for

 

 

 

Good morning,

 

We're very aware that we have said for the past couple of weeks now that the Presflos should be with us any day, so here's an update on what's been happening.

 

If you know how we operate, you'll know we are always completely transparent with you for any unforseen delays in one of our projects.

 

If you've joined us on our journey more recently, then you will find we'll always explain why a project is delayed open and honestly - it's also one of the reasons we don't take payments upfront on our pre-orders.

 

In January we booked our place on the ship with an ETA of early - middle of March for the models arriving with us. We did actually pay a large premium to have them shipped out before CNY (Chinese New Year), however there was a backlog in the port from where they were leaving.

 

The current status of the models is that they are in a container in Rotterdam awaiting collection from a smaller vessel, known as a 'Feeder Vessel', to bring them into the UK.

 

The wagons actually arrived in Rotterdam on the 21st of March and we would have expected them within a few days of that date. Unfortunately there appears to be a shortage of these feeder vessels due to high demand.

 

I myself (Ellis) would like to personally apologise for the delay in these wagons, as I know so many of you have patiently and eagerly awaited them for quite some time. All I can say is that I am by the phone daily awaiting the news that they are in the country and will be with us the following day.

 

The ECT family, that's what we call ourselves in the office, are a team that wear our hearts on our sleeves and put everything we have into all our projects, which I'm sure you can see from the lengths we go to, to deliver the most accurate models possible. Again if you have spoken to us over the phone or met us in person and this goes for anyone at ECT, I'm sure you can vouch for our enthusiasm for the hobby and our products.

 

We are a new manufacturing company, so we are always learning and improving every step of the way.

 

I hope you all understand our position and we look forward to picking up the phone and typing the email to inform you of their arrival!

 

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12 hours ago, Bartb said:

Thank you Chris for keeping us up todate. Seems you have done your best to get them here on time, but sadly things haven't gone to plan.

It is extremely frustrating knowing they should be here now but instead are again delayed. Hopefully they will be on the move very soon and we can get them out to the folk eagerly waiting for them (myself included). 

 

As always thanks for the understanding and support they will be worth the wait 

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It's the news many of you have been waiting for... 

 

Our first-ever Ellis Clark Trains project, the Presflo Wagons, are now in stock and live on the website!

All 28 variants are available to purchase, with two multi-buy bundles to take advantage of!

We have just begun the mammoth task of fulfilling all pre-orders, and hope to complete this by tomorrow afternoon.

 

A full newsletter has gone out to all email subscribers, however this is also available to view on the 'NEWS' section of the website.

 

To recap some of the important info...

Prices
£69.99 per wagon
£67 each when buying 5 - 7 wagons
£65 each when buying 8 or more

 

Specifications
Super-fine detailing throughout
Carefully researched and designed using original drawings and dimensions, cross-referenced with pictures of original and rebuilt wagons.
Super-fine pipework, handles and small detailed parts in plastic and metal
Die-cast chassis
Sprung buffers
3-link couplings
Sprung axle boxes
Will run on Peco 2nd radius curves (1028mm)
Un-numbered wagons supplied with a sheet of water-slide transfers by Railtec

 

Showroom Open Days

We thought it might be nice to make a specialised couple of days where we have extra staff on hand in the showroom to hand over your models and show you the full range in person.

 

Not only that, but we will have a large range of complimentary sweet treats and hot, & cold drinks on offer!

 

If you've never been to the showroom before, now is the chance for you to come and have a cup of our 'posh coffee'!

 

The open days are as follows:

Friday 29th April 9am - 5pm
Saturday 30th April 10am - 5pm

No need to make an appointment, you can just turn up, with parking directly outside. 

 

The address, if you've never been here before, is Ellis Clark Trains, Unit 2 Toller Court, Skipton, North Yorkshire, BD23 2HG

 

Finally, thank you all once again for being so patient with us on this project. I'm sure as you can see, it has been well worth the wait!

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Unfortunately I couldn't get to the showroom but I did ring up and pay for my pre ordered wagons today, spoke to a very efficient young lady who went through the order to sort everything and from the noise in the background the shop sounded busy! Looking forward to getting my hands on the wagon and getting weathering...

 

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On 29/04/2022 at 12:40, 37114 said:

Unfortunately I couldn't get to the showroom but I did ring up and pay for my pre ordered wagons today, spoke to a very efficient young lady who went through the order to sort everything and from the noise in the background the shop sounded busy! Looking forward to getting my hands on the wagon and getting weathering...

 

I remember seeing rakes of the yellow liveried Presflos in the early 60's at Severn Tunnel Jn.

I believe this was connected with the building of the Severn bridge, and the loads were discharged into silos in the up yard.

As young spotters, we would note the PF numbers of the wagons.

They were not too dirty at that time, but I would say "lightly weathered"

I have a couple of yellow liveries ordered, and I will no doubt weather them, but as it was about 60 years ago my memory may need jogging.

I wonder if there are any photos out there!

Mike

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10 hours ago, Quintus said:

I remember seeing rakes of the yellow liveried Presflos in the early 60's at Severn Tunnel Jn.

I believe this was connected with the building of the Severn bridge, and the loads were discharged into silos in the up yard.

As young spotters, we would note the PF numbers of the wagons.

They were not too dirty at that time, but I would say "lightly weathered"

I have a couple of yellow liveries ordered, and I will no doubt weather them, but as it was about 60 years ago my memory may need jogging.

I wonder if there are any photos out there!

Mike

I haven't seen many photos of yellow ones, my layout is set in a later era when they were grey. Thankfully Paul Bartlett has a gallery on his site with many colour images to get the weathering right.

 

One thing I am wrestling with is whether to add the fixing plates where the side boards were removed, these are missing on the model. There were 12 on each side so 24 per wagon and I have 6 without the board on order so 144 to fit!!!

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12 hours ago, Quintus said:

I remember seeing rakes of the yellow liveried Presflos in the early 60's at Severn Tunnel Jn.

I believe this was connected with the building of the Severn bridge, and the loads were discharged into silos in the up yard.

As young spotters, we would note the PF numbers of the wagons.

They were not too dirty at that time, but I would say "lightly weathered"

I have a couple of yellow liveries ordered, and I will no doubt weather them, but as it was about 60 years ago my memory may need jogging.

I wonder if there are any photos out there!

Mike

There's a photo of a Hall with rake of yellow that I've seen somewhere - I would start with Devon and Cornwall Railfreight - David Mitchell, if i had to guess but it's in storage so I cant check.

 

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Great excitement today as I received my 7 Presflos.. Wow just wow. Right from opening the parcel you know there is something special in side when you get a free pen, beer mat and the wagons are gift wrapped

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Helpfully also included were some instructions on how to remove the wagons from the foam without breaking the Handrails. I ordered a mix of wagons, 3 of which were un numbered and 1 including the side hoarding as these were in the minority in 1977 when my layout is set. 

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The unexpected nice surprises continue coming when you open the box as the un numbered wagons include transfers which is excellent as it saved me raiding my spare transfers from my First Class Kits model.20220505_192416.jpg.9c304f86cba98ae35225d1ab969cb2ef.jpg

 

Also included are some builders plates as well as side hoardings for the wagons not fitted with them from the factory although they were missing from one of my wagons but it is not a problem as I have no plan to fit them.

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The wagons really are a work of art so massive thanks to Ellis and the guys for producing them, I can't recommend the wagons highly enough, look forward to seeing what you do next.

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I've always avoided RTR stuff, building my own stock instead, using extensive photographs to super detail them up and scratch build what ever is missing from the kits. However when these came on the market I decided to try one. And my word.........  what a treat they are. Honestly they are excellent and up there with the Masterpiece models stuff. Thank you Ellis and co. 

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Are the buffers separate units plugged in? I'd want the thicker type for my wagons but already have loads of unused Accurascale spares so would be tempted to buy these with oleos and whip those off for my spares box.

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On 13/05/2022 at 07:49, Hal Nail said:

Are the buffers separate units plugged in? I'd want the thicker type for my wagons but already have loads of unused Accurascale spares so would be tempted to buy these with oleos and whip those off for my spares box.

The buffers do pull out from the model so you may be able to swap them over 

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One little tip worth sharing; the electrification warning flashes by the ladder were on most APCM wagons mounted on a plate on the hopper supports. As the plate is not modelled (not all wagons had them) the transfers cannot be applied unless you scratchbuild a plate to apply them to, or do as I did and carefully cut round the backing cardboard and carefully glue that to the support. It is worth doing this after you apply the other transfers in case you get any water on the electrification warning.

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On a related note APCM8611 which is one of the prenumbered releases had 2 warning flashes on the non ladder end which seemed to be unique/rare;

 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/apcmpresflo/h3b962a44

 

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We have Neil who is our full time weatherer and repairer and this week he has been working though the huge list of customers pre-ordered presflo models. There are three stages of dirt Light, Medium and Heavy and on all three is a mix of Airbrush and powder work and all taken of prototype pictures. The price is an extra £25 per wagon, 

 

What do you think? 

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