sir douglas Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 hi all, im modifying an o gauge wagon into a Parkhill dumb buffer inspired some photos but they are a bit blurry, one of them can be read but not completely. does anybody have any better photo of one or even what colour they were what i can make out from the best photo, "Victoria Coal & Coke Co" "----?----- Wallsend Coal" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Is there nothing in any of Keith Turton's volumes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 The very useful index of PO wagons in print on the Lightmoor Press website shows entries for Victoria Coal Company in Wakefield as Volume 7 page 132 and Volume 9 page 6 within the Turton series. There is also a reference to Wallsend Colliery at Hepburn in Peter Matthew’s book on page 38. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Wallsend is interesting. Is this an original case of taking coal to Newcastle? If so, what was special about the coal? I know that the Haigh Moor seam was famed for it's housecoal but this must have been a special order. Edited June 25, 2022 by doilum Predictive text error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: The very useful index of PO wagons in print on the Lightmoor Press website shows entries for Victoria Coal Company in Wakefield as Volume 7 page 132 and Volume 9 page 6 within the Turton series. There is also a reference to Wallsend Colliery at Hepburn in Peter Matthew’s book on page 38. is that this one? https://lightmoor.co.uk/books/private-owner-wagons-a-seventh-collection/L9358 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted June 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2022 16 hours ago, sir douglas said: hi all, im modifying an o gauge wagon into a Parkhill dumb buffer inspired some photos but they are a bit blurry, one of them can be read but not completely. does anybody have any better photo of one or even what colour they were what i can make out from the best photo, "Victoria Coal & Coke Co" "----?----- Wallsend Coal" The missing word looks like 'Park Hill' to me from the photo, I'll have a look through my wagon books later to see if I can confirm it or find any other photos. Regards, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Lawson Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, doilum said: Wallsend is interesting. Is this an original case of taking coal to Newcastle? If so, what was special about the coal? I know that the High Moor seam was famed for it's housecoal but this must have been a special order. According to https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/wallsend/ "Wallsend coal was well-known and highly prized in the London market for its quality. In fact similar grades of coal mined at other collieries in other parts of the region were sometimes branded with the name ‘Wallsend’ (alongside the particular colliery’s name) as a mark of quality." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Lawson Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 @sir douglas https://cityfieldsdreamingstreaming.co.uk/archive/search/?d=true&i=20&c= looks to be Park Hill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted June 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2022 This is the wagon mentioned by Nick Holliday from the Peter Matthews book on private owner wagons. I am not sure if it is the from the same colliery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Nick Lawson said: According to https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/wallsend/ "Wallsend coal was well-known and highly prized in the London market for its quality. In fact similar grades of coal mined at other collieries in other parts of the region were sometimes branded with the name ‘Wallsend’ (alongside the particular colliery’s name) as a mark of quality." Sorry I had failed to spot the auto correction error. It should have said " Haigh Moor". I will edit the original. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted June 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2022 The photo in Keith Turton 9 (p.6) is no clearer than the OP photos and is of one Victoria wagon in amongst a lot of other wagons. The photo in @Nick Lawson's last posted link can be expanded (on my tablet) to clearly read the missing words as Park Hill. I'll keep looking through my other wagon books to see if there are any other pictures are in them that may be of use, you never know. Good luck with the wagon. Regards, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 There's nothing in the 4 Hudon books, ive even got 1 & 2 of the Modellers Sketchbook by A.G. Thomas but keep forgetting to get the No3. Theres nothing in the sketchbooks either. i dont have any of the Turton books but am always thinking about getting one of them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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