Andrew P Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Excellent work Larry, It's really good to see you progressing again, I'm sure your a lot happier now with this manageable project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 It's a start.. Points glued down and ballasted. I reverted to Dark Brown fine ballast for this layout. It will be noticed the points do not line up with the spray marks on the cork. This is because I had to move the whole track complex several inches to the right after realising that shortening the platform to take five coaches instead of six (as on the real thing) prevented me curving the sidings to pass behind the signal box..... Track ready formed to 250" radius waiting for neat PVA to go down.... The weighting (and waiting) game. Tracks through the station have been laid and ballasted, the curve carefully checked for kinks, and then weighted with 3"X 1" and 2" X 1" plus lots of heavy books. This was it at 14.24hrs. Off shopping now! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 That's the station taken care of....... The neck of the goods yard and cambered running lines.... There but not quite, as it was impossible to set the points on a similar curve... 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 23, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) The slight camber can just be detected in this shot looking through the 'station' towards Corwen... Just a few shots mainly to show the new Peco bullhead track when laid & ballasted..... Goodness, all that dust from all the sanding... Running lines on the scenic baseboard are now finished apart from painting the rails.... I cannot lay the goods yard track until after a visit to Carrog to measure the width of the Up platform, the distance from this to the first track in the yard and the total width across the platform and cattle dock. Also a measurement to the railway boundary fence. Such things only come to light later.... Edited April 23, 2017 by coachmann 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 If I had thought about it earlier, I could have built Carrog closer to the doorway and linked the section across the fields towards Glyndyfrdwy with the outside extension. Ain't hindsight wonderful... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Now that's what I call Ballasting No 97, stunning work Larry, that's how I should have done it, (ain't hindsight a wonderful thing) hahha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
380John Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Can't wait to see this! I'm a volunteer at Llan, nice to see the sweeping approach in OO. Nice work so far! Cheers, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2017 If I had thought about it earlier, I could have built Carrog closer to the doorway and linked the section across the fields towards Glyndyfrdwy with the outside extension. Ain't hindsight wonderful... But you wouldn't have had that nice change in ground levels which will photograph very nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1722 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I like the looks of this a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Painted the rails this morning with Phoenix-Precision P977 Track Colour (rusty Rails) .... Switch blades were painted over with Phoenix-Precision P981 Dirty Black to represent grease..... Sleepers and sides of rail painted Dirt Black where locos stand at platform end.... It is all a far cry from years ago when I laid track without any thought given to the work I would face ballasting it .... In conclusion and taking everything into consideration, I can safely say this Peco bullhead track has been the easiest to lay yet. It is flexible yes, but it retains it form. Spraying it, as I have done, helps make it more rigid and yet it takes to readjusting on top of the PVA glue if things go awry. And in the end, it looks good. Edited April 24, 2017 by coachmann 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted April 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2017 That's looking excellent Larry. I'm following this with extra interest because I shall be starting on the same process myself in 2 or 3 weeks but I'm minded to wait for the bullhead points - depends how impatient I get! Please may I ask which rail joiners you are using? I think you mentioned above they are very tight which sounds a good thing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) That's looking excellent Larry. I'm following this with extra interest because I shall be starting on the same process myself in 2 or 3 weeks but I'm minded to wait for the bullhead points - depends how impatient I get! Please may I ask which rail joiners you are using? I think you mentioned above they are very tight which sounds a good thing to me. Thanks. The rail joiners are standard Peco Code 75 SL-110 and SL-111. It was imperative I build the layout now in good weather, but I have left myself the option of changing the current Streamline points for the bullhead large radius when they appear. Edited April 24, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted April 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2017 Thanks. The rail joiners are standard Peco Code 75 SL-110 and SL-111. It was imperative I build the layout now in good weather, but I have left myself the option of changing the current Streamline points for the bullhead large radius when they appear. Thanks Larry. If there is too long a wait for the bullhead pointwork I shall do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sunshine or hailstone, I spent a pleasant day spent measuring up Carrogs platforms and goods yard today. At this time of year, natures colours are never brighter. The early afternoon local from Corwen is waiting for the right away.... 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sunshine or hailstone, I spent a pleasant day spent measuring up Carrogs platforms and goods yard today. At this time of year, natures colours are never brighter. The early afternoon local from Corwen is waiting for the right away.... WEB Carrog 10.jpg I am quite envious, you have a station that still exists. I couldn't quite bring myself to measure up a nursing home! All the best TONY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 CARROG YARD.... Diary full of measurements, calculator to convert feet to millimeters, ash and grey ballast at the ready.... Neat PVA spread evenly (note pre-painted rails at the ready)..... Lay and pin here and there to hold track in key places..... Sprinkle on grey ballast mix between rails..... Vacuum off...... Add ash to remainder of track..... Vacuum off as before.... Finish off with more ash across length & breadth of goods yard..... After vacuuming off, press with finger here and there and where glue oozes through, sprinkle on grass..... Place timbers and books to weight down track until dry.... 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Nice neat job Larry, it's an excellent method of Ballasting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) The grass..... The ash after it had been filed down to dust where shunters etc walk.... The part on the right opposite the points has not been filed down. Rails now painted rust colour..... The yard as it is today. Laid in the 1990's, the two tracks have been used to store vehicles and so the ballast is not discolored and rails are dark rust.... A signalbox was placed in position to give an idea of how things will look.... A view of todays yard looking in the opposite direction.... Edited April 26, 2017 by coachmann 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
380John Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Sorry Larry, Did you say if you were doing it as it is today or as it was historically? I'd recommend "The Llangollen Line"-Ruabon to Barmouth by W.G Rear it's a fantastic reference. Apologies if this has been mentioned already. Cheers, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Oh so do you live near Carrog? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Sorry Larry, Did you say if you were doing it as it is today or as it was historically? I'd recommend "The Llangollen Line"-Ruabon to Barmouth by W.G Rear it's a fantastic reference. Apologies if this has been mentioned already. Cheers, John Bill Rear was an old friend of mine as was Greg Fox, so I rarely had to buy Foxline books. Yup, the Llangollen Line has been on my shelves since first published. I am back-engineering Carrog in 4mm to the 1950's, hence the ash in the yard and dark brown ballast on the running lines. Edited April 26, 2017 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Oh so do you live near Carrog? I live 40 minutes away, which is nothing in North Wales. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Thin-sleepered track such as that from SMP or DC Concepts is ideal in yards where ballast or ash is up almost to sleeper top level. I used DC Concepts. Straight out of the box, this factory weathered Hattons 14XX is on the yard tracks..... In comparison, No. 1471 is shown below on Peco bullhead track with thicker sleepers. It is satisfying to see the loco leans on the super-elevated running line while the coach in the yard is on track laid flat.... Edited April 26, 2017 by coachmann 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Thin-sleepered track such as that from SMP or DC Concepts is ideal in yards where ballast or ash is up almost to sleeper top level. I used DC Concepts. Straight out of the box, this factory weathered Hattons 14XX is on the yard tracks..... WEB Carrog yard 17.jpg In comparison, No. 1471 is shown below on Peco bullhead track with thicker sleepers. It is satisfying to see the loco leans on the super-elevated running line while the coach in the yard is on track laid flat.... WEB Carrog yard 18.jpg I was about to say the 14xx seems a bit dirty for preservation! I've only once been to the Llangollen, when I was coming back from Anglesey, but would love to go again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just been looking at some of your photos of Carrog (the prototype). I think it's fortunate that on WR preserved lines we still have goods yards, like on 'my' railway Bewdley, Arley, Highley, in a way Bridgnorth and I guess Hampton Loade all retain their goods yards/sidings. Not however their goods sheds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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