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Class 37 Sounds for Loksound Select

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Hey folks,

 

I ordered 4 class 37s and a Bachmann 08 all with out sound this week as I have a dozen Loksound Select decoders from my old North American collection that I will be reusing in my recent purchases.

 

I see all these wonderful sounds for v4 loksound but can't find for download class 37 or class 08 sounds from Loksound like I can for North American locomotives.

 

The only thing I can find is preloaded sounds on v4 decoders which I can't justify paying the same price of a loco for a decoder and then have to purchase sounds when I have 12 decoders that I already purchased.

 

Anyone have some ideas or can direct me to a company who will sell me class 37 sounds for download for my selects?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Alex

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As far as I know the Loksound Select comes pre loaded with sounds that have been put on there by either ESU in Germany or the American offshoot of ESU run by Matt Hermann. 

 

Again as far as I know there is no facility to construct a sound file for the Select in the UK. All you see here is the current Loksound V4 and a number of suppliers of both decoders and home grown sound projects for UK outline locomotives both steam and diesel.

 

I believe that there have been some Selects supplied with RTR locomotives in this country and I think the major supplier of these is Bachmann. I know that Bachmann buy these in bulk from ESU but the end user has no control of the sounds and the name Select does not appear in any brochure entry or advertising.

 

The Lokound Select is a seriously trimmed decoder in comparison with the V4 and that accounts for the price difference. It is possible perhaps to acquire Loksound V4's that can then be reblown with sounds of your choice but it is a bit of a minefield to say the least as the vendor very often has little or no idea of which decoder has been fitted.

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With Loksound Select decoders you can reblow them just like v4s. I've done it. The only difference in v4 vs Select is in a v4 has the ability to add your own sounds, where the select doesn't.

 

The Loksound programer has the ability to save projects in both v4 and Select formats.

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With Loksound Select decoders you can reblow them just like v4s. I've done it. The only difference in v4 vs Select is in a v4 has the ability to add your own sounds, where the select doesn't.

 

The Loksound programer has the ability to save projects in both v4 and Select formats.

 

I doubt you will locate a Select sound file for the Class 37 but if it is anywhere it will be on the ESU European website.

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With Loksound Select decoders you can reblow them just like v4s. I've done it. The only difference in v4 vs Select is in a v4 has the ability to add your own sounds, where the select doesn't.

 

 

 

Therefore, it is not possible to load third party sound projects to a Select. They can be reblown with specially compiled Select sound projects only; available exclusively from ESU.

 

All the wonderful (British Loco) sounds for V4.0 loksounds you seeing are from UK based third party sound producers.

 

However, I have read that DC Kits/Legomanbiffo have a part exchange scheme for Select decoders to V4.0s which may be of assistance.

 

Kind regards,

 

Paul

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Therefore, it is not possible to load third party sound projects to a Select. They can be reblown with specially compiled Select sound projects only; available exclusively from ESU.

 

All the wonderful (British Loco) sounds for V4.0 loksounds you seeing are from UK based third party sound producers.

 

However, I have read that DC Kits/Legomanbiffo have a part exchange scheme for Select decoders to V4.0s which may be of assistance.

 

Kind regards,

 

Paul

Yes we do offer a Trade in against new V4 Decoders, contach :  charlie@dckits.co.uk

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Thank you Paul. So is it a licensing reason why the third party can not save there project as a select format the same way ESU does?

 

Forgive me I'm just trying to understand why it can't be done before I write off $1400 and turn around a spend another $2000 for sounds.

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Thank you Paul. So is it a licensing reason why the third party can not save there project as a select format the same way ESU does?

 

Forgive me I'm just trying to understand why it can't be done before I write off $1400 and turn around a spend another $2000 for sounds.

 

 

Loksound V4.0 is the fully open, reprogrammable version, costing quite a bit more than Select versions.

 

The Select does not allow V4.0 sound projects to be loaded. (nor vice versa). That's an ESU technical solution designed to allow more level competition (primarily in the USA) with other brands like Soundtraxx which also do not allow 3rd party sound projects by being available at similar price points.

 

ESU have produced Select decoders with Class 37 sounds for Bachmann branded models, but I don't know if these Select projects are available for free download in the same way as Select projects for USA locos.

 

Have a word with Charlie at DC kits, or Legomanbiffo, both are on RMweb.  If Charlie can help, he will.

 

Kind regards,

 

Paul

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Dog danglies? Now thats funny.

 

Could you offer why they are?

 

I use to like sountraxx over here until ESU brought out there "drive hold" and how you as the end user program them. But does not make Soundtraxx dog $#!@.

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The Prime advantage of the zimo used to be its price which was about 15% cheaper than a loksound v4, but i think that gap has narrowed a bit now.

 

capabilities.........there on par with V4 decoder share the same features but i think i might be wrong...a zimo has a slightly more powerful amplifier which doesent really mean much with our sized speakers but i do find they run a lot cooler than a v4, because its not as taxed as the one fitted to the loksound.

 

A number of my 47s and a couple of 37s and 20s are fitted with zimos, never had an issue,with them, if i had to decide between the two, the only reason i would not go for a zimo was if i intended to double head the loco with something thats already fitted with a loksound.

 

the disadvantage is you wont be able to do much with using your lokprogrammer. So you would need Zimos own programmer if you want go into them in depth beyond general operation.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79061-rail-exclusive-zimo-class-47-for-vitrains/

 

theres a link there to a review i did with videos some time ago.

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For the sake of completeness, it should also be mentioned that Zimo is currently going through bankruptcy proceedings.  Hopefully they will re-emerge as a going concern, but someone starting out on the path of equipping their fleet might be well advised to take this into consideration.

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For the sake of completeness, it should also be mentioned that Zimo is currently going through bankruptcy proceedings.  Hopefully they will re-emerge as a going concern, but someone starting out on the path of equipping their fleet might be well advised to take this into consideration.

 

Perhaps if they charged as much as ESU, this would not be the case?

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And for the sake of completeness,  ZIMO will consist perfectly well with all other brands of decoder. It's ESU which uses a non-standard (i.e. does not follow the NMRA standards as all other manufactures do) multiplier in CV3 and CV4.

 

But there are perfectly well documented ways in which to force ESU decoders to behave in the same way as other brands.

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