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#51 old

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 17:33

hello.
i have a 08 with sound the only problem i have is that i have a ez controller which only has eight sound functions, that means i can notch up but not down oops

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 17:45

i notice that lots of you mention howes, what would they do to the sound ?

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 18:36

Re program the sound chip with their 08 sound files and their own functions.

Had my done, 100% better.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 19:18

, the Hornby sound is dreadful!



Do you really think its that good lol:D

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:10

Do you really think its that good lol:D



sounds good to me but then again it is my first sound loco

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:13

sounds good to me but then again it is my first sound loco



And there is where I and others have an advantage over you for now:D

Hope you enjoy it enough to take sound further

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 22:30

In order to improve the sound I thought I would try to seal the speaker so the front and back are seperate. I've put some blu-tack down the screw guides and a blob in the top of the body and then refitted the speaker. Before putting the body back on, I've then sealed the bottom area under the speaker, so that it seals the speaker in, once you put the body back on. See what you think on YouTube here -



I've left the original on for comparison. Tony.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 16:56

Cheeky git, where have you bin lately!!

started work on a new layout mate.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 16:53

Here's my Hornby 08 with Howes sound files reprogrammed to it.



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Posted 04 November 2010 - 18:09

Here's my Hornby 08 with Howes sound files reprogrammed to it.


Hi their have howes put notching on the new 08

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 18:49

No, but if you want have notching you can put it on yourself by altering acouple of CV's.
But you really do not need it as you can rev it on speed step 128 quiet easy, before you pull away. Notching should only be used for loco's under load.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 19:21

Here's my Hornby 08 with Howes sound files reprogrammed to it.


Hi there, sounds ok to me, is it the same speaker that came with 08?
Cheers owen
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#63 cassey jones

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 19:41

Yes certainly is.

Sounds very nice in the flesh so to speak.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 20:38

Cheers Mr Jones,
mine sounds terrable as ive mentioned previously in post, i will send it to howes very soon. thanks owen.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 20:45

Yes certainly is.

Sounds very nice in the flesh so to speak.



I was not impressed with the Howes sounds on your vid, a fact that I must say bemused me. Origianl speaker may explain it? Replace the speaker with one thats enclosed, far better sound quality.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 06:48

It is the same but with an enclosure made of bluetak sealing in the speaker.
The sounds are better in the flesh as I am only using a digtal camera, it actually sounds slightly louder and better than my older SWD 08.
Both of which sound alot better than the original Hornby DS model.

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 19:24

Just had a bit of spare time this morning so replaced the speaker in the Hornby 08.

My "review" initial thaught were written after a change of speaker and fitting a base reflex, just to hear the sounds.

However, as said above fitted a 23 ml speaker in the cab which is how i did my older swd 08 a year or three ago.

Anyway, at the Exhibition today I had the 08 "on show" and have to say every time some one asked for it to be started up to hear the sounds, the quality of the sound grew on me.

by the end of the day i had come to the conclusuion that the 23 ml speaker (which i did not seal) has made such an improvement, i may not even bother having it re-blown?

Will atttempt to u-tube later in the week as I forgot to photograph / video my own layout today lol.

But, things are looking up for the 08, just bin the rubbish speaker supplied!

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 15:21

yup you are bang on but this flippin thing is stopping on straight track that has been baby wiped, track rubbered, isopropyl'd and bit of hardboarded - It was code 100 but its been rubbed down to code 75 !!!


I'm not sure whether this is the case.
I have quite a lot of sound locos - including a Hornby 08 with SWD chip.

Granted, the 08 seems to run better with sound OFF...
but all other sound locos seem to run just as well with sound on or off.
A particular case in point is my Bachmann class 25 - it just runs like a dream with sound on! - It really crawls incredibly slowly.
I don't think it has ever stalled, despite being run on dirty track from time to time.
Likewise my class 20.....etc..

Now I can hear cries of "longer wheelbase" etc (but each has only 1 more axle!)
but I do find all my 08s - Bachmann + Hornby to be rather less reliable than I would like!

Having heard a few of the Hornby examples, I think the SWD chip sounds better.
The Hornby version sounds a little distorted, in my opinion.
That said.....I'll probably still buy one :lol:

Thanks for starting + contributing to this thread - interesting reading!

Marc

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 15:58

The main problem I have found with 08s is the pickups are not bent outwards enough.... the axles have sideplay and as the loco moves along the track with a bit of a waddle the pickups don't pick up momentarily..if you see what I mean..and with sound this causes the loco to stop and restart its sound sequence ...... careful adjustment can overcome this ...but should not have been necessary in a new loco :(

Regards Trevor ... :D

#70 whinge-n-moan

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 16:41

A well-known web retailer currently has this (R2903XS) on special offer for £120...
a bargain?
Out of curiosity how much does a reprogram from Howes or SWD cost?


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Posted 26 November 2010 - 17:02

A well-known web retailer currently has this (R2903XS) on special offer for £120...
a bargain?
Out of curiosity how much does a reprogram from Howes or SWD cost?


Yes I bought one, re programmed with the Howes sounds though. £16.50 including return p/p



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Posted 26 November 2010 - 17:20

Couldn't resist! Now have one on order, will probably send it straight off for re-program...

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 23:08

Hi,
Perhaps someone could throw some light on the apparent trouble I was having with my sound 08 at the show over the weekend. What seemed to be happening was that if you ran it in sound mode for something like 20 mins more or less continuously it would then start behaving rather erractically. Take it off for a time and it would be OK. I'm assuming some sort of overheat issue as it did get quite warm but then this might be normal.
As I believe the Hornby chip is the same as those provided by the specialist suppliers wonder if anyone had experienced similar issues or is there another explanation.
Thanks
Stu

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 00:20

I had a Hornby 60 with a factory-fitted 21-pin ESU chip in it. That would run OK for about 5 minutes, and would then become semi-uncontrollable (OK in one direction, instant full-speed runaway in the other whatever controller setting was used). So there may well be potential heating problems there, although it sounds like the symptoms for mine were more extreme than yours!

I ended up returning the loco to the dealer for a refund after the initial replacement packed up as well in a different way. Hornby tech support were very good, and if I was in the UK they'd be my first option I think.

In the interim, running with a lower volume should make the amp's life easier and may give you more runtime before you hit the heating issues.

Cheers,

Will



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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:46

Hi,
Perhaps someone could throw some light on the apparent trouble I was having with my sound 08 at the show over the weekend. What seemed to be happening was that if you ran it in sound mode for something like 20 mins more or less continuously it would then start behaving rather erractically. Take it off for a time and it would be OK. I'm assuming some sort of overheat issue as it did get quite warm but then this might be normal.
As I believe the Hornby chip is the same as those provided by the specialist suppliers wonder if anyone had experienced similar issues or is there another explanation.
Thanks
Stu


You have a duff one one, return it. Mine was on for long periods over the weekend with no problems.. Lomg periods being anything from 5 mins - over an hour.







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